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Heres the pics
Of course, I am seeing the TL in picture form, rather than in person, but it looks big, but I will say, that sedans are they latest rage, along with hybrids. But, when does a sedan start to basically be a SUV cover, with little difference in numbers? I am wondering how this design effected its price tag? Its almost like the new TSX became the old TL, and the new TL has become the old RL, and well the new RL has become sorta like a MDX. when compared in sizes and trims. Does that make sense?
This is not a time to enlarge anything, but we have not seen this car in person yet.
I like the design, I appreciate that they are creating a futuristic look to their cars, its like the car is alive, and just accommodates the driver. Its all about the drive.
Oh well, when it comes down to it i guess it's all about personal likes, but they've chased away this TL customer with this design, maybe there will be other buyers out there who like the design and replace me as a customer????
Let me ask a question, I currently own a 2001 TL which is a very good car, I get 19 MPG in the city and 29-30 on the highway at 70 MPH. Where has the progress been made as far as mileage. That model began in 1999-2000 and ten years later and the mileage of the new cars is not any better. It seems to me that all we have been obsessed with is speed, 0-60. Why is that so important? Acura, MB, Infiniti, Lexus, BMW and others have not taken steps to address this. Only now that oil has soared is this being adderessed. The manufactures should be held accountable to this. If they had looked at this, these cars would be betting 20% better mileage by now. Make sure to tell the dealers how disgruntled you are at the lack of attention toward this.
The mfgs. are simply giving the people what they want.
As Pogo said so long ago, "We have met the enemy and he is us!"
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Acura, you've lost me as a customer.
2. Mileage. The new Accord V-6 gets lower gas mileage than the Accord it replaced. Since the new TL will have the same engine (3.5), it will probably get less mileage than the smaller V-6 in the current model.
Since this car was designed long before the current gas crunch, Acura was caught off guard and their sales may suffer for it (although its competition is doing no better: the Infiniti G35 mileage is worse).
Very well stated. Grille reminds of some kind of bird cartoon character. Can't think of which one. Somebody on Acura design team from old Pontiac Aztek?
Why couldn't Honda/Acura simply have evolved the TL as Porsche has with it's 911, which dates back to 1964. The 2004-2008 model was a stunning design that will still be admired long after the 2009-2013 iteration is forgotten.
Have an 04 and 07 TL and will probably keep these for some time given 09 design.
Acura making mistake just as Nissan did with Maxima. Had a 97 SE. New generation Maxima in 2000 was ugly compared to 95-99. Then, 2004 Max got bloated and test-drove ponderously. Went to Acura - 01, 04, 07.
Maybe aftermarket parts suppliers can do something about goofy grille. That is only way I would even consider that car. If 09 TL is not as least as good in handling and performance as 04-08 (with an aftermarket grille), good bye Acura.
I'll keep my eye open for replies on the S-Type and pics other than the outside, of the 2009..
if the new car has more power - but weights MORE - then it's a wash and this fugly car will perform NO better than the model it replaces...
curb weight???
Check out these more unmasked pics from the rear and side. The rear-end doesn't look as big now. I don't think we'll be able to figure this car out until we see it in person. It seems every pic they're releasing has a different look/angle.
Bigger engine, more weight, lower gas mileage most likely, ugly design on the exterior....I'm extremely dissappointed.
Like most other upscale features, eventually it would trickle down to the lower models.
If the new RL were coming out next year that would be one thing, but now it seems like the new RL won't be out until 2010 and that will only stifle the growth of the TL feature list.
part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15yVWFUatRA
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWJ1QGGIozc
The summary:
Price: Base --> SH-AWD+Tech: 34K --> 42K
Engine: 280/254 --> 305/275 (I think....)
MPG: 18/26 --> 17/24 (disappointed as BMW 335 and 535xi's have better #'s)
Performance: acceleration not revealed obviously. Focus is on dynamic handling.
Other specs: looks bigger and heavier, how much remains to be seen.....
Styling: looks much much better in video than static pictures all around. Not great, but distinct and acceptable. Power plenum grill less intrusive in the light gray/silver color featured in the video.
Availability: late-Sept for base; late-Nov for SH-AWD
The 09 TL has EPS which helps give it better mileage.
Do you have any information on when the actual embargo date is set to be?
I know you've had valuable information relating to the TL and its release.
Thanks