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I still haven't bought an NAH because I live in a state where they aren't sold, and so to coordinate my schedule with a trip to CA has been a challenge. I passed on the offer above due to neglect. Tonite I found one in a color I like better anyway: the MSRP is $32,975; seems like I should still get it under $2900 minus the Nissan $1500 rebate (on their website), right? i'll post my success (if any).
Your comment about AWD, however, caught my eye. I've heard about MBenz small suv with as good of gas mileage as a hybrid tho' higher asset cost.
Hey, you can still borrow your wife's car if you need a speed fix!
Maybe I was foolish getting rid of the NAH. I got $17,500 trade in, which based on KBB for that vehicle with the mileage I had (34,500) was about 110% of trade in value. I see now that the dealer is asking $22,000 for the vehicle on their website. I don't think they will get that much for it as anyone could buy a new one, identical with all the options (like the one you are looking at) for probably around $29,000, less the rebate, less the tax credit so that would be around $25,000 net. Why would anyone want a vehicle with 34k for 22k when a brand new one for just a few thousand more?
At any rate, I get "bored" with new cars (have been spoiled with company cars for the past 25 years) and thought it time for a change. Although I did manage with the small storage capacity in the NAH I really wanted to get back to something with more room, AWD, reasonable gas mileage, etc.
I believe with the Forester will average somewhere between the 20 - 27 mpg advertised for a lot of my running around, hoping for the high twenties for highway driving.
Nissan will have a lot more competition now with the new Ford Product out there advertising better mpg, plus the new Honda Insight and improved Prius.
Got to run....
My regular income tax was not affected by AMT, just the portion for the refund for the hybrids.
I didn't realize the federal rebate would be affected by AMT. Will ask my accountant how that plays for me.
I haven't done much research on 2009's so I checked out daninoah's comment above about the Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan. I like the idea of supporting American companies but am concerned about supporting their service depots.
So...I finally got a "firm" offer today from N. Bay Nisan for 2009 connection + sunroof + destination fee @ $28,899. (invoice: $30,516; rebate $1500). It is slightly less that the price I got a month ago (different dealer but with no rebate) that ooc thought was mundane. The prices don't seem to be as good as last year and I don't understand why. Perhaps they are putting all there effort into selling off the multitude of 2008's.
Last, I was wondering for those of you who have driven NAH's for nearly a year, what has your repair & maintenence been like?
thanks mucho, M
Yes, I bought the car. What help I gleaned came from Consumer Reports "Car Price Services" as was recommended on the regular Altima chat spot. The report efficiently itemizes costs so that you can quickly determine what is a good buy. 1800.880-4874; $16 worth of confidence.
The salesperson at North Bay Nissan in Petaluma, CA was terrific. Can barely wait to pick up the car and drive home to Washington state.
All for now. M
I do have a headache from it though. LOL.
Someone tell meeee. Thanks!
Since I love the quiet and (relatively) great fuel economy of hybrids, I want to stick with one and with the full, $2,350 Federal tax credit still in effect for the Nissan Altima Hybrid, I think I can still come out ahead buying one. The NAH is a little sportier than the TCH, I like the backup camera available with the NAH and think Nissan generally has better navigation systems than Toyota but the TCH is roomier and quieter. I am tending towards the NAH but would first like to know if its fuel economy is comparable to that of the TCH.
And also, if anyone here has looked at both the TCH and NAH, why did you choose what you chose?
Thank to everyone in advance.
I would say my gas mileage was in the 36-40 mpg range in the summer, depending on AC, city vs. highway driving etc. When just highway, I got around 42, which was sweet. Winter range: 32-35 mpg. I live in DC.
I didn't consider the TCH because (a) I didn't want another boring car and (b) there was no Federal tax credit available.
The NAH car is fun to drive, has pickup when you need it, and is so stylish that a colleague even left a note on the car, not knowing it belonged to me, admiring it parked in front of the building and wondering where she could get one too. (NAH is not available in my area, so it requires a serious commitment to go to NJ, NY, or New England to get it from here as well as research on who will service it.)
My 11-year-old daughter thinks the back seat is roomier than than Camry. I don't know that's true, but she thinks the Altima is "way cool."
The only drawback is that smaller trunk, but I have found it adequate, even for beach vacations with all the attendant accountrements.
I loved not only my Federal tax rebate but also the fact that I was exempted from state sales tax (tied to the Federal status) and got a reduced registration fee as well. Rebates and reduced rates for hybrids are different in different states, but that's easy to check on the web. Those economics helped make my decision.
Also, I wanted to write in after owning the car 8 months just to say thanks to those who have posted in this forum for their honest and helpful observations and hints. The posts gave me the confidence to research a vehicle I couldn't drive until I committed to checking one out far away from home. It has proven to be a great decision so far.
Good luck with your purchase.
We agree that the Camry is a boring car but one thing that I did love about it is that it was whisper quiet. I really did not realize how much I enjoyed that quiet until I drove other cars (including a non-hybrid Altima as a rental). Nothing compared to the quiet of my Toyota Camry Hybrid. However else the Camry is boring -- and we agree that it is boring -- the Toyota Camry Hybrid is quiet. Very quiet. And sometimes after a long, stressful day, that quiet is absolutely GREAT!
So I need to know, is the Nissan Altima Hybrid quiet?
But, I could not tell you if it is more or less quiet than other hybrids ON AVERAGE in your driving conditions. That I don't know. What I suspect is, if comparing Altima to Camry ONLY when the gasoline engine kicks in, I bet the Camry would be a little quieter. I think that may be best answered in a road test.
Hope this helps!
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/corporations/article/0,,id=186772,00.html
I'm a slow one, but like the writer above, when the NAH isn't sold in your own state, you are more cautious. I still haven't flown to CA to pick up car (due to trip to Nepal) but will check mileage when I do. Glad to know maintenence should be minimal even at another dealer. I have to commend my Prius dealer 5 years ago that gave free service for 3 years which spoiled me.
Sounds like less miles/gal in warmer weather which may be why writers last year noted differences...so hopefully it isn't your driving. I didn't notice the weather difference in the Prius.
AMT is alternative minimum tax on your 1040 IRS return.
Did you pay an ungodly amount for a lifetime ownership warranty?
I'll post again after my inaugural trip home.
M
Too bad I'm in NY!
As of this morning, 6 in stock at this price.
;->
The dealership experience was very good. The staff was friendly, professional and well informed. The only issue is simply availability; there was only one NAH in stock when we arrived for a test drive.
The car is very comfortable inside, fully appointed, handles well on the road, very low emissions and good mileage, and it performs well for a hybrid. We test drove the Toyota, Honda and Ford hybrids as well, but the NAH was the clear choice for us.
I saw it advertised for $20k. My local dealer said he would match that price.. is this good or can I go any lower?
Also, what insurance company would you recommend for this car? We have Progressive and their quote for this car is rather high in my opinion.
The cheapest insurance I could find was through American National.
Does that quote seem serious to you? My local dealers are pretending that it isn't.. (of course )
However, the first dealer we actually went to did not believe the quote and would not even counter offer us. We left and bought it the next day at the advertised price. Today, my wife's niece's husband went to the dealer that did not sell us the car and he dropped my name. They were willing to sell it to him for the $19,999. The car probably has more miles on it now(saw it on their online inventory list and it was the only one in that color on their lot). We saw it last Saturday and it had 50 miles on it. The one we bought had eight miles on it. We did have to travel an extra 15 miles to buy it but we saved $1500.00 in the process.
Was thinking of getting a Atima hybrid - along with the Convinience + Connection + Technology package. or just with the Convinience package. Just wondering what folks paid?
Also does anyone know if NJ has any tax credits on hybrids in addition to the federal tax credit
The dealership said the battery was low but not defective. I complained and they replaced the batte, but found nothing else in their analysis.
No problems since then with the main battery. The dealership told me that they haven't heard of anyone else having any problems. Abviosly I am not alone.
NAH w/ Connection Package and sunroof for $25,300 after rebate incentive. After Hybrid tax credit, it will come down to $22,950
4 year registration in NJ - $206
Doc fee - $139
I believe the price before taxes and registration (but after fees) is around $20,700.
I also got 5.99 % financing, which was pretty good considering credit unions would not even lend me anything given my limited credit history.
Nissan announced sales for June being down 20 something percent which was much better than May's sales figures. If the economy is showing some bottoming the incentives could be reduced in the near future.
One of the dealers wanted to sell me the base hybrid for $22,295 OTD in Socal, without even negociating.
That was from Nissan El Monte (if anyone is interested). I guess with the new $500 rebate it may be possible to target $21,700 - $21,800. Minus $2,350 tax rebate that's around $19.3k.
What a deal when you compare to other cars in this price range.
I think the word is out on the NAH discounts because the listings for the discounted 2009 NAH are gone from Craigslist.
The Altima Hybrid was fully loaded: tech package, convenience package.. the works. The Jetta TDI had upgraded 17" wheels, sunroof, and the famous automatic DSG tranny. I drove the TDI and it felt underpowered compared to my 328i xDrive coupe, obviously, but for a gas-saving car, it had some pep. However, the Altima has the greatest discounts and most equipment. The guy, over the phone, took 10k off sticker (34k) because of the tax credit, Nissan's credit, and just old fashioned discounts because they can't move the cars.
I need an opinion on what my dad should get. He is going to be paying cash for the car.
I obviously think he should go with the MINI Cooper Convertible, but that would never happen unless one of you could help me convince him. I know a lot about cars from being around my dad, who is a car buff, and from reading Motor Trend since I was 7. I'm 17 now and just got my car (328i xDrive coupe), and my dad needs a fuel-efficient car to drive 50 miles a day.
Thanks
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I bought from Surf City Nissan in Huntington Beach. After negotiating I got mine with convenience package for $23,100 OTD. I could also have bought a black base hybrid for $22,200 OTD, but the car wasn't on site (they said they would need to drive it down to HB which would add 80 miles on it). This car is probably still available.
Surf City Nissan was the most competitive dealer in OC (with me anyway). But I had to negociate hard.
Again: all this was before the $500 cash rebate.
Her car is rated 18/25 mpg.
Thanks!
So far the best price that was offered was 21000+ TTL =23000 OTD for the base model .
Here is their Break UP ::
Manufacture Suggested Retail Price: (msrp + freight )....$27,455.00
Nissan Dealer Discount:............-$2,199.00
NNA Customer Cash:........................................-$3,250.00 (incentive)
4TH OF JULY CUSTOMER CASH:..........................-$500.00 (grad. in 6mos or grad. in last 2 years)
Your Price:....$21,506.00 + tax and lic. *
After the MSRP of 27455 - Nisan Dealer Discount = 27455 -2200 = 25,200 (almost equal to the Invoice price of 25000)
so finally it comes out to approx 23500 for the base Model which is TOOOO pricey . and the worst thing is that all of them have a rude overtone when told that they were not at all competitive.
I do see that someone has already bought at 22300 OTD before the 500 $ rebate in Huntington COunty, CA . Can you please help us with the BreakUP cost of each item.???