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While I also don't believe most salesman talk, this one could be right as I have experienced it several times. Just happens.
Regardless though, you can surely get the same deal at any other Nissan Dealership, trust me. They just need to have the car you want. The only thing I expect from a dealership is to give me a price. Everything else I ask smells like a heaping load of bull.
You ought to email other dealership (via carsdirect) to see what they have to offer.
But yes, I know what you mean about trying to go up to NH to ski (snowboard for me). Hard to fit any of that stuff in, and a roof rack would lessen your MPG's
These techniques are not unique to Nissan. Almost any dealership you walk into will have variations on these techniques. I wouldn't boycott Nissan because of one snake of a salesman, I'd just go to another dealership. My own Nissan dealership is very much up front. They didn't play games. They sold us a NAH at a good price, and financed it at rock bottom finance rates. There was no pressure, and nothing sneaky. Another Nissan dealership we went to in our area was more similar to the experience you had. Lots of wheeling and dealing. We stood up in the middle of the scamming and walked out, and the salesman actually tried to keep me in the showroom by putting his arm around my shoulders and holding on to me. Old school salesmanship. Not a chance, buddy.
Have read a lot of messages about real world gas mileage and I will be reporting what I receive. I put the high mileage on my Subaru Tribeca (still going great at 63,000 miles, I average just about 20 mpg for mostly highway driving) and hope to use this car (if my wife will let me) on day trips where I will be putting on 300 - 400 miles, which I do often.
From what I have read, looks like I should expect around 35 mpg overall, but, time will tell.
Question: My mileage calculator says I am getting 21MPG. I have been driving the car around for 3 days and have about 170 miles on it. Right now , the needle is Just under the 3/4 tank mark. Have you guys that bought the vehicle brand new been getting 30-35MPG on your first tank? I am hoping that once the engine is broken in, the mileage will get better. It also seems to also only go into the electric mode when I decelerate or brake.
At at rate, anyone out there have any comments on extended warranty for the NAH. I was thinking maybe 7 years, 70,000 miles might be a little more realistric. Or, gamble & get nothing at all. Of course the dealer trying to sell me one of those, and I know they are very profitable to the dealer. But, certainly not going to spend $1500 or so.
Comments from anyone on this board would be greatly appreciated!
Date Odometer Gal MPG
04/14/07 442 11.8
04/25/07 1075 18.1 34.9
05/01/07 1319 7.8 31.5
05/17/07 1968 18.0 36.0
05/26/07 2486 14.0 37.0
06/04/07 3111 17.7 35.4
06/22/07 3732 16.3 38.1
06/28/07 3972 7.0 34.2
07/13/07 4574 17.1 35.2
07/27/07 5053 12.9 37.2
08/04/07 5661 16.7 36.5
08/23/07 6356 18.5 37.6
09/06/07 7117 18.9 40.2
09/22/07 7461 9.9 34.7
10/06/07 7948 13.7 35.6
10/21/07 8554 17.2 35.3
11/05/07 9116 16.7 33.7
11/17/07 9496 10.8 35.1
11/29/07 9812 10.0 31.6
12/13/07 10323 18.2 28.1
12/17/07 10494 5.0 34.3
12/22/07 10738 7.9 30.8
01/05/08 11188 14.7 30.6
01/12/08 11578 11.4 34.2
01/26/08 11978 13.6 29.4
02/07/08 12401 14.0 30.2
02/18/08 12876 16.0 29.6
03/03/08 13397 16.8 31.0
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Monica
i think your mileage will go up with the weather
Had one quote, Balise in Warwick. RI 08 black on black (fabric) with convenience package & sunroof for $26440 (that incluses all dealer fees and approx $1250 MA sales tax and also includes the $1250 rebate. I knew they would lower the price by a few hundred, but went elsewhere (Mastria in Raynham, MA) and did find identical one with $200 more options (the bubble in front of the moonroof and alumimum door guards, or whatever you call those things) for $26200, so I signed.
Have not taken delivery yet now Balise calls me back after I told them I shopped elsewhere now willing to sell their vehicle for $25508, that's a reduction of almost $900!
I asked Balise why they could not have given me a better offer in the first place. I am just shocked by how much they have lowered the price. The vehicle we want is in stock and I may now cancel the second guy & go down to the first one. Plus, they are throwing in a 5 year key protection plan (value supposedly $295, maybe cost The offer of 25508 then means they are offering me the vehicle for approx $24,000, plus MA sales tax, registration fees, etc., Even adding back on the Nissan Rebate of $1250, isn't invoice for this vehicle somewhat more than $25,250?
Any comments???
subtract 1250 rebate and it's $24,945
25250 is still over invoice price (24,945 - WHICH IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE PAYING!!!!!!!)
did you sign papers yet? if yes, oh well
I see several accounts of peoples deals for buying this car, but very few for leases. Can anyone share some lease numbers that they have gotten with this car. Thanks in advance.
Sorry, in all of my research, haven't come across "lojack." What's that?! :confuse:
Anyone: aluminum kickplates worth it? look good?
sonoma county
$54 http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=MorePartInfo&PartID=4736- 20&siteid=214459&catalogid=5509
I suggest just getting the fronts (the rears weren't worth it IMO)
This one with all options (although disappointed no fog lamps!) tech package, roof, the whole bit. List was, I believe $33300 or so, they showed me invoice for $30,700 (including transportation) Ended up purchasing for $30,500, less the $1250 rebate. "tires for life" "double powertrain warranty until 120,000 miles. three free oil changes (big deal!) Extended warranty for 5 years, 100,000 miles (the best one) for $1400, plus 3.9% finanacing.
Traded my 06 Subaru Tribeca for $15,500. That was real close to KBB, for the mileage I have (65,000 miles) I thought that was reasonable.
Really hope I am doing the right thing.... Until a few days ago, never owned a Nissan product. Hope that I will get the gas mileage advertised, and this vehicle will be ok in bad weather. I don't expect it will be as good in the snow as my Tribeca, but hoping with traction control, stability control, etc., it will be ok.
I went into Tire Rack to check out the OE tires that come with the vehicle, and got some pretty poor ratings on the vehicle. Sure, I can them replaced no charge from the dealer, but I hope they are decent to run on.
Any and all comments would be greatly appreciated. I still have until tomorrow morning to back out of the deal...
The tires on the NAH are stiff, high-mileage tires. They are designed to reduce rolling resistance, and as a result, increase your mileage. When looking at tire ratings pay attention to what variables were used to rate the tires. Generally, harder, long-mileage tires don't handle as well, and don't work as well in inclement conditions. These tires, however, are used on many brands of cars, and considering the litigious environment these days, they'll be pretty good for you by design. Remember too that hybrid and high-mileage cars are still in their infancy. In the next few years expect to see significant advances in all technologies around this, now that car, lubrication, and tire companies realize that the public wants these cars.
I can tell you that your mileage in the city will probably not approach the rating on the window sticker. Whatever city they found that allowed that mileage must have had downhill streets in all directions. Kind of like your grandad walking uphill in the snow both ways, to and from school ;-). Our city mileage in a relatively flat city north of San Francisco generall hits in the mid-30's. The highway mileage, once you learn to drive gently, and stay below 75 or so, easily hits the mid 30's, once the car is broken in.
It's too early to tell how this particular model of Nissan will come out, reliability-wise. In my mind Nissan has always been the hidden gem in the auto industry. They generally make very good vehicles. They listen to their customers and, like any Japanese company, constantly improve their products. We have a car like yours (an 07, which we paid slightly less for) and we couldn't be more pleased with it. I only have two very minor complaints. 1. The "auto" day/night mirror can't be adjusted manually, so in those times where there's a bright light behind you during the daytime, you can't dim the mirror. 2. The outside mirrors don't auto dim with the interior mirror (I had a Lincoln that did that a few years ago...very nice). Other than that, the car, both inside and out, is well-engineered, well thought out, and even things that don't seem logical in the way they behave at first, are done pretty well (you just have to figure out why Nissan did something a certain way).
As far as the dealer experience goes, that varies from dealer to dealer. I've heard horror stories, and wrestled a snake of a Nissan salesman at a dealership (where I DIDN'T by the car) myself. The dealership I go to in Petaluma, California (North Bay Nissan) is excellent. No matter what I go to them for, they are always patient, communicate well, and make sure I'm well-taken care of. Not only that, but we constantly get phone calls and emails from both the dealership and Nissan, making sure we're happy with our product and services. We've never had that experience with any other brand of car (and we've owned Toyotas, Hondas, and various American brands).
I'm a little more cautious than you. If I had your kind of money, I'd wait to see if I personally liked the car before I bought a second one. That being said, I think you'll be very, very pleased. These cars are comfortable, stylish, quick, and (so far) very reliable....
It's probably because of the $2350 tax rebate that cinched the deal on each vehicle, otherwise really could just justify the purchase. I realize the Prius would get another 10 mpg or so, but you absolutely cannot get one with moon roof, and that was a must on both vehicles. Not only that, the companies that specialize in installing moon roofs will not put one on a Prius. Probably because of the rounded roof.
I have never owned a Nissan before, and have been very pleased with my Subaru Tribeca. But, I have realized that 99% of my driving is on business by myself, and I can manage fine with the small trunk. If we need anything large to move, have a 1999 Dodge Dakota 4wd p/u that just sits in the driveway. A 99 wi less than 26,000 miles on the Odometer! I use it so little, last time I put in gas was early November and have drive around 125 miles since that time.
Oh well, I hope I have made the right decision. I am kind of an impulsive buyer.
At least the two vehicles are different colors, my wife's black, mine silver.
I will post on this formum my experiences, as well as detailed info on gas consumption.
One thing that dumbfounded us about our deal is that we did the deal, and they came back with a better one. Signed the paperwork, and were told we'd have to wait 6 weeks for the car, which was in shipment somewhere. OK. No problem. Good car. Worth the wait. (We got the fully-loaded Tech package with moonroof,leather,etc). A few days later we get a call from our saleman. I'm thinking, "OK. Here we go. Big delays, or some price increase or something." Nope. He told us that Nissan had just come out with a better interest rate a day or so after our deal than the one we signed up for. He said if we'd come in and re-do the paperwork, he'd get us the better rate. He did this without being asked to. Our interest rate was cut in half (it was really low to begin with, but hey, a buck is a buck). We went back in, redid the paperwork, and a few weeks later drove off in our new car.
31200 with 129 Doc Fee.
NAH, Dark Slate/Charcoal Leather
Tech,
Sunroof with deflector
mats
aluminum guards on door edge.
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+ Tax 3% NC, reg and titles.
Additional perks, airport, and/or delivery to dependable autoshippers terminal
airfaire in
240 for 2 from Wilmington to Newark. (120 each. stop at ATL(Hartsfield) or charlotte depending on day of week.
Gas cost back 60 bucks or so.
Dependable auto shippers about 470.xx
P/U in fayetteville, NC
I was still waiting to hear back from stevens creek but unnamed salesperson in internet sales is ignoring me or has at least for 2 days or so.
Im not sure this is costco pricing but it appears about 800 below TMV pricing @ edmunds?
Any feedback?
Oh and Ive shopped 7 auto insurance companies ....It appears geico will save me about 600 year compared to competition. I didnt try AIG yet.
Also, I already did confirm that our local Nissan dealer has the hybrid techs. Are there other concerns I should have about owning an NAH here?
fyi, the MSR price for 2007 with pkg #1 is $27,025 and the manu rebate of $1500 expired on it but is now on the 2008 model which is only $200 more. Go figure. I think the dealer will have to deal down to off-load the 2007's. I haven't got to their bottom figures yet until I get the tax question settled. Any advice appreciated.
At least that is what we always hear... I don't think that the unavailability of the car in Washington has anything to do with it.
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CA has the price I want, NJ has the colors I want.
Decisions....all 08s. I havent seen any 07s from the dealers I spoke with.
I have been on telephone with a dealer in Clovis (he went the extra mile and actually pulled up all the 2007's in the State for me by the color I wanted), but after reading the thread, am tempted to check out Petaluma or go web shopping. This website has been helpful in justifying to my spouse why I think a trip to CA is worth it. I bought a Prius the first year it was out, loved it but now Seattle is infested with them. Time for a change!
Thanks to all who contributed for the extra info about packages and prices.
To check inventory go to nissanusa.com click current offers on the bottom then on the left hand side menu click search inventory. Select your zip and then distance, choose dealership then altima. When the picture comes up click on Hybrid as the body style. This shows you the inventory of that particular dealership.
We could have gotten around the same deal you did but because 08 pricing just about the same at 07 prices, the only difference was $250 on the rebate between the 07 and 08, made no sense to get an 07. Kind of surprised you would not take the rebate instead, if you credit is good real easy to get a load of around 3.99 percent. For the slight difference between 2.9 and 3.9% the additional cost no where near the $1250 rebate. Plus by taking the rebate, you would save another few bucks by saving sales tax on that amount.
If you have good credit consider using equity line of credit if you have one. For the $1500 rebate you are forfeiting, I think you could get a loan for maybe even up to 6% & still save. Just use a mortgage calculator & plug in the amount you need to finance with and without the rebate, and you will see what I mean. Even better savings if you use line of credit as that interest would be tax deductible. Don't forget, you will probably get the $2350 Tax credit next year. If you could hang on to a line of credit loan when you get that money next year you could plunk it right down to the balance on your equity loan.
Good luck, whatever you decide
So far, after going 450 miles the trip computer reads 31.7 miles, mostly highway driving. Also purchased one for wife last week, without tech package, more city driving on hers & that seems to be averaging 30.7 mpg on computer. I realize the indications of mpg on computer's are usually inflated so real curious as I fill up what I really will get.
Have you noticed hour the mph is so totally inaccurate? On mine with all the highway driving I did only shows around 25 mph. Should say more like 50 or so. Same for my wife's car, it shows only 20 mph. Maybe after I reset both of them after first fill up they will be more accurate.
Any others out there comment on this???
2008 Altima Hybrid 1.9% APR financing for up to 36 months or 3.9% APR financing for up to 60 months for qualified buyers* OR $1,250 cash back**
I know its tier 0 and 1 thats applicable with NMAC just wondering what exactly the threshold is.
Looking at 60mo/3.9 option
This was from Bay Bridge Nissan in Oakland, CA. I approached seven dealerships and they were the best at communicating, working with me on a price, and no pressure. They quoted me the first lowest price ($1,000 below invoice before rebate). When I countered with my (even lower price) they were the only ones who agreed to talk to figure out how to meet my price. Others told me things like, "That is too low, we're in the business of making profit, if someone meets your price, bring it in writing and we'll match it." Well, they didn't get my business.
Wierdly, when I got home today, there was an email waiting for me from Boardwalk Nissan in Redwood City, CA, with a BETTER OFFER! Two days ago they scoffed at my last proposal and wouldn't deal, telling me that they couldn't sell at that price. Apparently (so they say), they'll have an ad running this weekend for a "similarly packaged" NAH for $26,749 after rebate. It seems there are some hidden incentives somewhere, allowing dealers to sell for way under invoice now.
I will be happy to give Bay Bridge Nissan a great CSI report.
Thanks for everyone's experiences -- they helped a lot. Now I'll get to think about my mileage instead of prices Moral: taking your time is worth it.
I am getting quote of $27,156 with $1,250 rebate for 2008 Nissan Altima Hybrid with Connection Package and Moon roof. The Invoice price i think is $28,842. I am in Massachusetts. So after taxes and tags it is $29,107. Is this is a good deal.
Thanks.
Also, "tires for life" if you have vehicle serviced at dealer, plus "double" powertrain warranty to 120,000 miles, plus they threw in portable Nav System (supposedly worth $300)
Actually had another deal with Balise, in Warwick, RI for virtually same car for $500 less than this one, but I didn't like they way they did business.
Are you anywhere close to Raynham, MA?
I will definitely check out Bay Bridge in Oakland (and the one touted in Petaluma). I have relatives in Antioch, Berkeley, Petaluma, Sacramento and Fresno, so would appreciate any other leads to help me decide which city I will fly into.
I can't go until mid-April and noticed the Nissan rebate is supposed to expire the end of March. I noticed earlier postings in 2007 said they kept extending them. Can I trust that will continue for 2008's?