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i have a real conscience, unlike the dealer and Honda
I would feel guilty telling you something that would hurt the car, but this will actually make it better. It violates the letter of the warranty, but only because the dealer wouldn't understand it.
Remember that your pack is 132 cells, so you want 208v, not 192v for the charger.
Also, I have read about replacing the battery with a refurbished one. Is that a good idea and where do I go to find one since the dealer will not sell those. The car has 138,000 miles and I mostly drive it within 25 miles of home. I have noticed the problems other have posted about the battery charge dropping with frequent stops for errands or when it is hot - which it is in Texas! Because of the these 2 codes the car will not pass inspection. What does the P1600 one mean?
Gela7, click on my username to contact me directly. Don't pay a dealer $3000-$4000 for a battery.
P1600 signifies that there is an error in the IMA system (the P1449) and the IMA light has been illuminated.
2007 Honda Civic Hybrid IMA Battery Problems After Software Update
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1ny0sWVvVM
I'm pretty sure this is the same recall that everyone is talking about. I'm tired of it.
Last night the battery light came on, the IMA was down to two dits, and it neither charged nor assisted. I had the regular battery checked today and it is fine. I just replaced the radiator a couple of days ago - I suppose some wire may have been knocked loose. Today it runs fine, charges, assists, etc. I will watch this for a couple of days and I will probably get the electrical system checked.
Has anyone had a similar experience? Any ideas about what is going on? Suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Auto-stop doesn't work below about 40 degrees if you have the climate control on. This is normal.
When you got the 2 bars of battery and the battery light, the IMA system had shut down. When the guy checked the 12V battery, he disconnected the battery which reset everything. At some point it will happen again. Resetting the system will correct it, but it will happen more and more often until it eventually can't be reset.
You should know that Insights and Civics have virtually identical batteries and IMA systems but Insight owners are more vocal about their cars, so if you don't find anything here, search for Insight comments on Insightcentral.net
i tried to show her a video of how it drained 4 times during my 25 mile commute. she didn't bother to watch it.
i went on a trip this weekend, the battery literally recal'd/drained every 10 minutes over an hour and a half stretch. i have a 25 min video of what happened.
i am contemplating calling the lame Honda rep that dealt with my BBB hearing again and complaining again. i don't want to as all i will get from them is that it's "normal". to me, there is a difference when Honda says it "MAY" happen, vs. i can guarantee that it WILL happen and often.
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any suggestions?
Not sure how to proceed from here? Any Help? Is any others seen these codes?
The problem is that after the error occurred, you started your car and it charged the battery up a little bit and now they all are above 7V. When the car applies a load, they drop down and trigger the error but bounce back up once the car is turned off.
Replacing the MCM will not solve the problem and $2400 is highway robbery for an $800 part and 20 minutes of installation labor.
If you still want to try an MCM before biting the bullet and repairing or replacing the battery, you can get one at a junkyard for $100 or contact me and I'll lend you one. I have instructions (with pictures) on how to install it. It is easy to do with hand tools (easier than changing a car stereo).
P1435 is a "Charge/Discharge balance problem". The instructions state to fix any other codes first before looking at this one (because it almost always goes away). If not related to an IMA battery error, then it is a problem with the battery cables that go to your 12V battery. The likelihood of that being the case in combination with the P1570 is extremely low. The P1435 will go away by itself.
P1600 = IMA light on.
P1601 = IMA error without IMA light on.
I got the Diagnose detail for P1570 from dealer and as per diagnosis, the tested voltage and everything where above 7V. Since they fon't have known good MCM, they wanted to buy new one and so they are charging me 2400 ( 1970 part + labor).
if replacing MCM didn't solve problem what other reason could be?
You have one or more bad sticks in your battery, but if you want to be sure, contact me by email and borrow an MCM. DO NOT SPEND $2400 for something you don't need. I have NEVER seen a bad MCM and I've handled dozens of batteries with P1570 errors.
My vehicle is a 2005 model with 5 speed manual transmission. The problem begun when the ECM had to be updated. Now the IMA doesn't hold the charge and the IMA light plus the check engine light are on constantly.
Will keep you posted.
First, the emissions warranty under Federal law covers the IMA and all related items for 8 yrs/80,000 miles whichever comes first. If your vehicle is an Ultra Low emissions model, in California and other states the warranty is 15/150!!
Second, because the IMA failure indicator came on while the battery was completel
discharged, and the engine failure indicator simultaneously lit, there was no question about replacing the IMA battery under warranty, as well as the failed ECM.
So it helped to have a customer oriented service department to make this as painless as possible.
wondering if anyone has the contact info honda so i can call and complain again. seems i couldn't find it by googling.
thanks in advance