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Honda Accord 2007
Hi, All
We looked at 07 Accord today (v6). It's all nice, bit i was confused by the shifter...i had D, D3, 2, 1 positions....
There's no D4? Whats't up with that? All automatics in all the cars i ahve seen give you the number of positions equal to the number of gears...or have paddles, or buttons of some kind?
On my 4sp auto I like downshifting one gear down on some ramps, helps with stability....
What's the explanation here? Of all gears I would think one before the last will be the most used for most situations...
We looked at 07 Accord today (v6). It's all nice, bit i was confused by the shifter...i had D, D3, 2, 1 positions....
There's no D4? Whats't up with that? All automatics in all the cars i ahve seen give you the number of positions equal to the number of gears...or have paddles, or buttons of some kind?
On my 4sp auto I like downshifting one gear down on some ramps, helps with stability....
What's the explanation here? Of all gears I would think one before the last will be the most used for most situations...
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i am just trying to undesrtand rationelle here....are they trying to say that because tha 4th and 5th are so close together downshofting to 4th simply would make any significant difference?
i drove an 07 Altima with CVT and 6 ratio paddle shift...i got the impression that gears are too close for manual control, you most likely woul have to tap down twice....but i might be wrong.
That is probably the case, but I'm not positive. It doesn't seem like putting 4th gear on the shift position selector would be difficult. I would try downshifting to D3 at a lower speed first, to get a feel for it. I don't think 60mph would be too high a speed to do it. If it kicks down too hard, just don't do it again.
on a Pontiac Vibe 5 speed manual I used to go through that curve on 4th and it felt like the right gear. Keeping in mind the gear ratios and final drive i ended up with the ratio of 3.5066.
with the Accord the same calculation yielded 4.5186.
i also compared the jumps in ratio between 5th-4th on Vibe and D3 and D on Accord. the gap was 3.5 times wider on Accord...(duh, 2 gears vs one) ! Looks like it would rev up way too much.....unacceptable.
however i am having hard time believing that Accord, supposedly "the drivers car" did that to the driver. Sounds pretty bad. Some cars have a separate overdrive off button that makes up for the lost position on the shifter...and with D to D-1 being the most useful kick down it is actually easier to use than the shift lever and all sounds pretty logical.
And here, on a decent car they go ahead an get rif of it? just doesn't make sense!
so i guess....unless someone finds the overdrive switch somewhere i will not be buying the Accord. Which is a bummer, cause i like it otherwise.
btw here's the final ratio (gear ratio by the final drive ratio) comparision for V6 with auto and V6 in a 6 sp manual 07 coupe:
Auto:
1st gear 11.3408
2nd gear 6.7336
3rd gear 4.5186
4th gear 3.2339
5th gear 2.3036
6 speed:
1st 12.9297
2nd 8.1921
3rd 5.593
4th 4.1125
5th 3.2242
6th 2.5333
so basically we end up a little lower than the 4th on the 6 sp.
on the vibe it would be equvalent to somewhere between 4th and 3rd a bit biased towards the 3rd.
however the VTEC engine is generally higer revving than a non-VTEC. Even the V6 has redline hugher than vibe's 4.
i still don't know, we're still missing a gear.
what's the usage for D3 according the owvers manual?
same for the Vibe: 3024 at 4th and 4458 at 3rd.
i hope i didn mess up the math.
so it's a bit high....however the car is heavier plus i don't know what's the difference in engine braking with this v6 and vibe's 4.
on 4th that we're missing here the V6 would rev at 2648. which may be on the lower side for this car.
Can't find any information on this. Is towing offically ok with Honda for their 2007 Accord? What are the limitations?
Thanks
Is it much of a problem going up hills with the 4 cylinder & automatic.
David
I love my Honda because it is relatively sporty as far as midsizers go. Others will love their Camry because it is smooth and quiet. They are nearly polar opposites as far as ride and handling go (Camry - Isolated and Serene, Accord - Sporty and Fun).
If you haven't yet, I'd drive them both. The viewpoints usually sound like this...
"The Accord is too loud and beats me to death..."
"The Camry is so boring and dull to drive..."
Both are extreme statements, but show the car's weaknesses.
If you have the money and are able to handle the maintenance costs I would also recommend some European makers.
I don't recommend Domestic except for a few high end cars, those are inherhenlty more expensive anyway and performance vs price is the weightiest factor in decision making.
I might say Chrysler some day since they are beginning to incorporate a lot more Mercedes parts and engineering.
But you can't go wrong with a HONDA. (Well I still don't think the Ridgeline qaulifies as a truck to me) Hopefully no Ridgline owners want to lynch me for that one.
It is a Honda just not a truck
No car is a sure thing, but with a Honda I like the odds. I owned a Toyota truck for 6 years, and it didn't impress like my 2 Accords have. The Toyota was reliable, just not as solid.
I got me 07 SE V6 a couple of weeks ago and there's a couple of ... strange things I notice.
1. The V6 has 2 tailpipes. Upon closer examination that they are not quite in the same position relative to the cutouts in the bumper plastic. Asked a service guy about it, he said the exaust is fine, but have me no explanation as to why the pipes are placed differently.
2. I noticed that when the left (I think) back door is closed it's not quite level with the body. the door surface sticks out just a little relative to the body behind it. the difference is very small...1 mm maybe or even less.
The right door is completely flush. Never seen this before.
3. The driver's seat developed a creak within a few days. Went to the dealer, they spend 5 minutes trying to lube it, said, nope, let's book an appt. Instead, I got me a can of WD40 and in 15 minutes got it fixed myself.
4. The centre concole storage door rattle. Didn't have a chance to talk to the dealer, instead used a few bits of felt pad as a temp. measure. I was rattling a little after that, bit now i can't hear it anymore.
Overall the car is great...but what's the deal with all the small things, after all it's a Honda, not a Chevrolet? Was it build on Monday or something?
Thanks
I'd tell you, but I could be mistaken without going and looking my own manual myself. Look under the "Maintenance Minder" section or something similar.
I assumed it was some secret to be done only by the dealer.
Last time I told someone to check their manual they got offended, so I wanted to make sure you weren't!
Have a good one buddy...
Thegrad
I just got booted off one forum here maybe it will not happen here also. Anyways I have a question where can you get an owners manual at besides the dealer? I bought a used Accord and it did not come with one. Afraid the dealer will charge fifty bucs or so for it. With the comments here it would be useful to have.
2007 Accord 4-door Owner's Manual
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2007 Accord 4-door Quick Start Guide
Price: $15.00 In Stock
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I have a 07 Accord coupe and it seems that I have to use a lot of force to close my trunk - I almost have to slam it down, or it won't close. If I use a smaller push, it just bounces back up, not closing. Is it supposed to be this way? Does anyone else have this problem?
If its more than a few years old, you might want to try eBay.
If price isn't too much of an issue, and safety IS a major issue, go with the V6. An SE V6 Accord can be had for $20k or less these days. Check out the Accord prices-paid forum for more details.