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Today on the freeway my wife's 2006 (early model) Kia Optima had a vibration, fluctuating RPM and then it stalled.When it stalled we saw al lights on the instrument panel light up. No check engine light stayed after staring it again.We drove for a few minutes and it died again.
I opened the hood on the safety lane and checked the battery poles and belts.I could not see anything out of the ordinary. But my wife said a day before a bird flew in front of the car's grille and she found the bird's skeleton at the driveway that evening.
We drove the car home without problem. 15 minutes or so. No check engine light.
What could be the problem?
I am using Mobil 1 Extended Performance oil for almost 8,000 miles now. With synthetic oil my usual oil change interval is 7-8,000 miles usually.
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Just to name a few, transmission, staring problem experience rattling noise when going over bumpy road, pulling prob, roof squeaking while driving and more, its so bad I don't knw wat to do I'm Soooo!!! Disappointed I felt like my next option is to; U said it. Wat to do!!.
I have not test driven one yet, but I did test drive the mechanically equivalent KIA Optima, and it drives very nicely.
It could be first year production problems, but it does not bode well for American Manufacturing in the southern US states if that is the case. My Detroit built 2009 Mazda6 has been bullet proof for 3 years and 50K miles now with my only complaint of tire noise. Zero warranty repairs so far. I bought that car in the first months of production too, so I was expecting some problems.
I just bought a 2012 Sonata and I have noticed that every so often when I am slowing down to a stop the RPMS rev up a bit (even when my foot is off of the gas) or rev down a bit (almost like a down shift).
I bought my wife the identical car and she hasn't had the same experience.
I bought my Mom a 2012 Accent Hatchback and she said to me the other day that "the car accelerates by itself".
Whats going on?
Thanks in advance!
Joe
If the car itself is accelerating, that's a different (and dangerous) matter!
I am also considering trading it in for Mazda3.
I won't even look at Hyundai again.
14 MPGs in the city................i am sure Hummer got better than that.
THERE IS A FIX!
My dealer's service department knew exactly what was wrong when I described the problem, and replaced a transmission range switch. It took about half hour and after 2 weeks I have not experienced that problem again.
I love my Sonata - it is the most comfortable, most efficient, and best performing car I have had in recent years, and it was inexpensive.
what is the problem???
It is caused by a "bug" in the software for the transmission controller. I just happen to have worked for years in designing vehicle controllers, so the dealer was not able to pull a fast one on me (but they tried).
What happens is the transmission's microcontroller software creates what is called "loookup tables" that are stored numbers (variables) based on your driving characteristices - how fast you accelerate, how hard you brake, etc...
Then the transmission shifting characteristics are "tweaked" by these values. The controller is suppose to update these values regularily based on driver characteristics.
You should notice this the most after a long trip when coasting at higher speeds on the freeway.
Your car is not updating correctly. This should not be happening - Tell them the controller needs reflashing.
Sorry to say it may be a lifelong problem, due to its design. So also call Hyundai and make sure they have this documented as it is covered under warranty. If you don't get it documented later they will deny it is a problem.
you are right i went 2 days ago to a mechanic to check the problem he said its not the first sonata had this problem..he`s just reseted the gear box and told me to keep fuel the car with low octane fuel,idont know why :confuse: !!?
i hope Hyundai take in consideration this problem and try fix it or it will hit them back hard.
thanx again
If this were a "one-off" occurrence, we could live with it, but the fact that it happened twice within a 5 day span tells me that there is something more that required attention. (the first time it happened, I was driving back from a cottage with my wife and 2 year old in the car).
I took the car back to Hyundai and they've had it for more than 2 days now.... Hyundai have said that they cannot find any issues in the programming of the car and so they've referred the issue to Hyundai Canada who are trying to trouble-shoot remotely. In the meantime, I'm left without transportation and with an out-of-province family trip coming up in 3 days, it doesn't leave me with a warm and fuzzy feeling towards the dealer who sold me the car, the car itself or Hyundai.
I guess the red flag was withing two days of having it I noticed a nice and shiny black nut on the ground where I park it, the dealer found out where it came off in the engine compartment.
A piece of interior trim was found under the driver's seat which had to have been there before I bought it.
Then within the first month the driver's seat belt would not latch and had to be replaced.
I've had it in several times for the transmission which turned out each time to be software.
They had to replace a bad Brake Switch, The ESP "off" light kept coming on its own
The light switch went bad on the passenger's mirror which they replaced
The last caper is the low tire pressure light comes on even if the tires are OK. Makles you freak thinking you are about to get stuck in traffic when all is OK.
Hyundai built a lemon and it has cost me a lot of time and expense to bring it back to the dealership 45 miles each time, and they are notthe best as several times it had to go back to get it fixed right.
You can not depend on Hyundai for quality.
I pulled over, tried to put the car in park, neutral, reverse, used the manual shifter, nothing would get it to shift gears. The indicator by the shifter showed that the tranny was in drive, but it was clearly in 2nd gear. I drove another 10 miles, then turned the engine off. Waited 10 minutes and turned it back on and everything seemed fine, except my massive headache from the jolt. Very scary, thinking about trading it in.
I had my car back in again two weeks ago for the fourth time for the transmission and last night it started acting up again on the way back from a trip. So far it has been in the dealership oiver 10 times and it is barely 2 years old!
Just do a google on Hyundai Sonata's transmission problems and you will find out this is becoming very, very common.
I can not afford to keep bringing it back into the dealership as it cost me time off from work, lost money and lost time. And I am sure Hyundai hates having to pay for all the repeat repairs.
The unecessary costs having to keep bringing it back in so regularily is really adding to the cost of the car. I figure if you buy a Hyundai, add an additional 10% to the cost of the car for all the time and money you will spend bringing it back in for repairs. In my case my hyundai is costing me and additional $2,500.00.
Here is the letter that I wrote to Hyundai that gives a summary of the issues that I have experienced with my 2011 Sonata.
Dear Sir or Madam,
I am writing you today to express my total dissatisfaction with my 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited.
At the beginning of 2010, I was so excited to hear the rave reviews about the new 2011 Sonata and could not wait for it to hit the market. I loved the sleek and sporty styling, the excellent fuel economy and the added technology features that were to be available with the car. Once the cars hit the market, I was one of the first to buy one in my area.
I purchased the car on 2/20/10. Within 2 weeks of purchasing the car, the car would not start. It was finally determined that there was a faulty brake switch that caused the push to start button not to work.
Over the past 18 months, this same issue has occurred more times than I can count. My car will not start and I am inconvenienced and left looking at a beautiful car that will not function and is not meeting my basic needs. I have had my brake switch replaced 4 times and the problem continues to reoccur.
This is a major issue. One expects for his or her new car to start reliably. I have researched on the internet and I am not the only person having this issue.
Yesterday, 10/11/11, my car would not start again! I cannot keep this car if I cannot count on it to start. Once again, I will have to take it in to be serviced and be inconvenienced.
In addition to not starting, the driver side window is malfunctioning, the traction light will not go out, the xm radio works intermittently, and the low tire light will not go out even though I have had the tire pressure checked 3 times.
I see all of your commercials on TV expressing the pride that you take in your vehicles. What can you do to fix this issue? A new car should be reliable. My car is a total lemon! I was really expecting much more. Please contact me to discuss.
Also make sure to tell Hyundai what a piece of junk they have scammed you with, call their consumer affairs at (800) 633-5151.
If his creates a safety problem report it with the NHTSA, otherwise make sure you also file with the BBB
Well it does not get much hotter than Oklahoma summers of 105 plus and my self driving. I also keep getting recall after recall in the mail. I guess no one tests their products before producing them like General Motors in the 80's. I also have a 2006 Honda Accord which has posed no issues except a bad batch of batteries from the manufacturer.
The warranty is only as good as the manufacturer who produced the vehicle.
I may just trade this thing in after all and just wash my hands of it. I expected more from Hyundai. I actually expected it to be like my Honda.
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I have had it with Hyundai and next time will be buying American.
Gary
1. In the trunk, unplug the wire that feeds the 3rd tail light.
2. Remove the rear seat. Remove two 12mm (I think) bolts about 1/3rd and 2/3rd across seat in crack between seat bottom and seat back (where your rear end would be if you were sitting on it). Pull forward on the two plastic clips in the front of the seat bottom (where you would put your hands to lift up the seat - where the backs of your calves would be). Pull seat out.
3. Remove left and right seat back end cushions. Remove 12mm bolt at the bottom and wack upward (I did this with a rubber mallet) to unhook it from the top hook. Note: these will be a bear to put back in.
4. Fold down both rear seat backs.
5. Remove the thin, black plastic "frame" around the opening.
6. Remove the small "SRS Airbag" medallion in both “C” pillars to expose the philips screw. Remove the screw and the plastic cover from the “C” pillar. It is held in by the one screw and many clips. You might have to pop some of it out with a screwdriver. Be careful, the side airbags are in there.
7. Now you can remove the rear deck. It is just held in by one clip (looks like a small yellow drywall anchor) which is visible and accessible in the trunk.
8. Now all you have to do is remove the housing, I think by removing just 2 small screws, and change the light bulb (bulb #921).
Hope this helps. Good luck.
all that just to change out a lightbulb?!!!
I would trade the car in first!
Hyundai has a know issue that they have a design flaw and will not "man up" to their customers.
Good thing to do is also post complaints on all the local reviews of that dealerships, as they will looses tens of thousands in sales. Just complain to everyone a one every where you can and make Hyundai loose a lot of sales.
Also call Hyundai directly and tell them about this and make sure they know about all the dissatisfied people posting here.
People do not realize the power they have, especially as consumers - if you don't buy from Hyundai because they have bad products, they will cease to exist.
Remember their CEO made millions and you got a defective product! Make sure they know you will not tolerate this! Good luck!! :shades:
To many people saying the same thing to be a fluid issue.
Ill keep you up to date on my issue.
I also have the same issue with the tail light.... Im going threw bulb afer bulb, until I realized that the socket is bad... If they dont fix it under warrenty Ill fix it myself in the shop.
I love the car, but Im really thinking I may have to trade it in if issues like these start happening.....
I just got off the phone with the dealer, they will run the software update for me under warrenty and look at the bulb issue... cross your fingers!
Sis
Actually get mad and call Hyundai and ask them why when they have known so long about the defect in their software have they been ignoring it and loosing repeat customers!
..oh believe me, I will be asking!. I prefer to do things face to face though, not over the phone, not in a letter, and not on a forum... Im sure it will be fixed to my satisfaction.
Sister
In-fact, within a month of getting my Sonata the driver's seat belt would not lock, it took over a month for the dealership to fix it. I had to put up with risking my life and that damn annoying dinging. When complaining to Hyundai they contacted the dealership and the dealership said it was fixed the same day, however I had paperwork showing they had to order parts and I was waiting three weeks. Hyundai really never did anything to help me and after several calls seemed to get annoyed I was complaining.
When I called Hyundai about the transmission they just appear concerned that it was documented and wanted to move on to the next complaint. Perhaps they pay or treat the workers at their call center or whomever they contract bad.
I will never buy a Hyundai again. Like I said they have your money and the money is all they seem to care about! Just make sure the next car you buy is from their competitor and over time if everyone does that they will loose millions in sales and have to listen.
To tell you the truth, when I bought my Sonota the dealership couldnt wait to get me into it, bent over backwards to take care of me...comes to find out they were going bankrupt and needed to get rid of their inventory... so be it... the dealershio that bought them out was Larry H Miller here in Oregon....they rock, took great care of me, and covered the issues I had under warrnty..they even washed and vaccummed out the car.
I gotta say I had a great experience with them.
Car is working great now..no more transmission slams !
The dealership did get me a great price but then their repair department was where they seemed to fail. (Boucher Hyundai / Waukesha WI. More than once I had to come back (especially with the transmission) and several times I had to tell them what was wrong and how to fix it (k up tables in the microcontroller not updating correctly). Tell them it shakes at high speeds and it is was a good chance they would not check it except around the block at 20MPH, get an alignment and I had to come back as it would then pull left.
I was told later by an employe they were having pay disputes and that is why the mechanics are unhappy. It then reflected in the quality of work. I also think they get bonuses for selling you useless work. With the car we bought a prepaid oil change service plan (big mistake!!). A few weeks ago my wife took it in just to get the oil changed. She called me all flustered as they were pressing her to get work done they said it needed. So she called me and I had her put them on the phone. I was told the car never had the required service maintenance of a front end alignment and that it needed brakes. I then asked what about the front end alignment done a few thousand miles ago that they did and also informed them we had the brakes checked when we brought it into our regular mechanic for a winter check just a month ago and he said the pads are fine. He shut up instantly. Actually had they really did the multi-point inspection they supposedly do with the oil change they would have seen we had a light out which I would have said no to anyways as I already had the replacement bulb in the trunk but had been putting it off.
Perhaps the same is with the Hyundai's consumer affairs department - pay little and get unhappy workers. However sell a bad product and give second rate customer care and you get your customers leaving and buying from your competitors. Sad to say, many repair trips later and calls to their customer care and it still slips. What a junk car (company)!