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2008 BMW 328i Coupe
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Hello All,
New here, lots of great info...thanks!
Been freaking out lately...One month ago I ordered a 2008 328 Coupe with Auto, Leather and Metallic paint...MSRP: 39275
The car is on its way, but I have become worried about the kind of deal I can get on an ordered car.
I have been having nightmares about me getting to the dealership (it is one of the infamous Miami dealerships who are used to dealing with South American drug dealers, nit with normal working folk) and being asked to put up with a $700 payment, without the opportunity to back off due to the car being there.
I can put $5000 down, but don't know if they have any lease programs available!
Please help!
a) Can I get out of the deal before the car arrives and then try to negotiate a car that is on the lot at another dealer?
b) Can I just wait until the car gets here, and if I am not happy with the price, walk away?
c) Really don't like the salesman, so would rather cancel now
Thank you all!
New here, lots of great info...thanks!
Been freaking out lately...One month ago I ordered a 2008 328 Coupe with Auto, Leather and Metallic paint...MSRP: 39275
The car is on its way, but I have become worried about the kind of deal I can get on an ordered car.
I have been having nightmares about me getting to the dealership (it is one of the infamous Miami dealerships who are used to dealing with South American drug dealers, nit with normal working folk) and being asked to put up with a $700 payment, without the opportunity to back off due to the car being there.
I can put $5000 down, but don't know if they have any lease programs available!
Please help!
a) Can I get out of the deal before the car arrives and then try to negotiate a car that is on the lot at another dealer?
b) Can I just wait until the car gets here, and if I am not happy with the price, walk away?
c) Really don't like the salesman, so would rather cancel now
Thank you all!
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Many thanks
MC
Best of luck and many fun and safe miles of pure driving bliss to you!
Regards,
OW
While it's nice to have your own financing available if needed, the volume of business that a car dealership can throw to a bank often means they can offer you a better rate & get some for themselves as well. In addition, if you're aware of this, you can offer to let the dealer handle the financing & get a bit more off the car in the first place.
Just don't let the F & I guy sell you a bunch of other stuff you don't need.
Does anyone have any problems with the hardtop on these cars? Anyone else heard of this problem? Also, I've never owned a BMW, always Japanese cars that have pretty good reliability...how are the BMWs?
I have iDrive also and really like it. I never use the Climate part, but phone, stereo, navigation, and car data are useful for me.
Btw, my car handbook is in the trunk. There is a small storage space on the right side and the handbook fits there perfectly. There is already very little storage space in the car, so I don't want to take a bunch of space with the handbook. The up side is that I have learned to not store anything in my car unless it's absolutely needed.
Have fun with your new ride! I am loving mine (335i sedan).
Dan
Do you know if there is a way to get the nav to switch to a dark background after sunset?
You know, one dislike that I can't believe I forgot to mention is the lack of a spare. This is such a bad idea that it nearly killed the sale for me. I've decided to get a set of winter tires and wheels, and, when I'm leaving town, to put one in the back. Imagine having a flat in some fairly rural part of the country (e.g., mid-to-northern Maine) and having to get a new tire. You'll get it, but it might take a couple of days. Meanwhile, you get to sit and watch the grass grow; not necessarily a bad thing, but it might not fit your itinerary very well.
A plus is the seat belt handoff, which I first thought was a bit over-the-top, but I'm getting to appreciate it. I'm concerned that it's somewhat flimsy and prone to break. Need to be careful of that.
The bluetooth phone setup is excellent, isn't it? I have a friend with a Lexus LS400 which switches to one speaker when the phone rings and it sounds tinny and distant. This one is full, rich, and right there. I also like the sound system very much. It's the best I've heard in an automobile, though I confess to not being much of a car audiophile.
This is the first car I've owned and not coveted someone else's seats. They're remarkable, and I really love the adjustable bolsters.
The new wheel is near perfect; smaller in diameter, and the rim is thicker. I don't have the adaptive steering (or whatever it's called), but the standard steering is excellent. The car feels like it would be as stable and reassuring at 150 as it is at 70.
[Caution: Dangerous Territory Ahead. Am I the only one who thinks that governing the car at 150 is silly? Maybe there is some design reason that a governor is a good idea, but it seems quite nanny-ish to me. If you're going to do that, why not do it at 120? Anyone even going 120 should be arrested (unless you're on a track, and then there should be a simple way to override the governor, temporarily). Going fast in most places anymore (at least in the East) is courting disaster with so much traffic, and particularly so with all the deer around. Hit a deer at 120? Mmmm, mmm.]
I used the sunshade the other day, and it was welcome. A friend was driving and my daughter was up front and I in the back. It was getting a bit toasty until the sunshade went up.
Speaking of the back, it is surprisingly comfortable, if tight. I was back there for about two hours, and it was fine. After a while, I'm sure I'd appreciate being able to stretch my legs, but it's well done for a small space. The back seat air vents are effective and needed since the back windows are fixed in the new coupes. Also, I'm 6 feet and about 190. I wouldn't want to have to sit in the back if I were 6"2" - the headroom is very limited in the coupe, and I just fit. One important note about the back is that it is difficult to get in and out of. The entry/exit opening is small, and it helps to be limber to use it. They've done things to make it easier - like add a switch to the top of the front seat so that the person in the back can slide the seat forward and back - but the roof is low and getting through the space is better if you're smaller and younger than 61.
I'm enjoying it very much, and look forward to having to go out, even to the drugstore.
The 155 mph/250 Km/h top speed is the result of a 1980s "Gentlemen's Agreement" between Audi, BMW, and Mercedes. The intent of the agreement was to head off mandatory autobahn speed limits and other regulations aimed at high performance cars- things that the eco-weenies and safety [non-permissible content removed] have wanted for decades. Fortunately, a reflash of the ECU will eliminate the speed limiter, or you can buy a vehicle that is "exempt" from the agreement- such as the 186 mph Alpina B7 I drove for a couple of weeks.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
I'm with you on all the pros and cons. I love the steering wheel. The seats are unreal. Bluetooth is great and the shade is nice. Oh yeah, and driving it is so much fun that I am disappointed when I am done commuting to work.
On the cons side, yup, space is a bit tight. I am the same size as you -- 6' and 190. I think we're lucky, because we're just at the limit for this car. The lack of a spare is the absolute dumbest thing on this car. I would have bought it as an option if it was available. I would be nervous going on a long trip somewhere with no spare in case of an emergency. I'm sure I won't be too happy either when I get a nail in one of these expensive tires that can't be fixed.
On additional minor gripe is the push start thing. I personally would prefer a regular key. Maybe I would feel differently if I would have opted for Comfort Access.
Dan
I guess Porsche wasn't invited or didn't feel obligated to participate in that "Gentleman's Agreement"?
Actually, what I understood the reason for the top speed limiter was strictly to limit legal liability. That many cars whose engines endow them with the ability to achieve 160-170-180 mph are barely stable at 150, let alone those higher speeds. The limited amount of high speed downforce generated by those powerful but relatively boxy, higher clearance sedans or coupes is not enough to keep wheels firmly planted in an unexpected event (i.e. crosswind gust or Bambi jumping into the road). And relatively few are equiped with W or Y rated tires capable of those speeds.
Maybe the two explanations go hand in hand. Autobahn rulers were deciding that too many body bags were being consumed by novices trying to validate the top speed of their 4/5 passenger sedans and the manufactures deciding that it would be easier to limit the speeds to 155 or less rather than post warning labels on the visor reading "your car is capable of 175 mph, just don't try to avoid a deer at that speed".
I have the Comfort Access option, so the button start works for me. I agree with you; inserting the fob and then hitting the Start button is stupid. I'm continually surprised at how often high-end designers do so many things well and so many others so poorly.
Now there's talk that the agreement will soon be abolished. And while there are still several stretches of unrestricted autobahn, some members of the EU seem intent on dragging German cars to a common level of mediocrity by imposing speed limits everywhere as well as regulating horsepower.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
Perhaps in Nevada and Wyoming.
It's like me in competing in the U.S. open looking for my ball after every shot, or a lot of duffers like me in the event! Talk about a pile-up!
Regards,
OW
I guess that explains why the German Autobahn is one of the safest limited access roads in the world. :P I've driven much of the unlimited portion of the Autobahn at speeds well in excess of 120 mph and the absolute key is lane disipline. Simply put, if you need to pass, make damn sure that there is plenty of room in the lane to your left before you pull out to pass so that you don't impede traffic moving faster than you, and as soon as your pass is complete, get your butt back over to the right.
Best Regards,
Shipo
You are correct and it works in Europe because of the discipline. I guess I was thinking that would never work here in the US.
Regards,
OW
Best Regards,
Shipo
-Getz
No, probably not, but you will see plenty of eighteen year olds cruising along in dad's diesel Golf at 140 mph. Ask me how I know.
Best Regards,
Shipo
In the U.S., those kids would be in jail for a long time. If you ever watched those Police Chase videos on the boob tube, the endings are usually a horror show.
The ability to cruise the Autobahn is one of the reasons the Euro brands are built better than the US brands to begin with.
"When you buy a car in Germany, you don't do it with your brain, you do it because of the feeling," Jochen Hövekenmeier, spokesman for the AvD automobile club, told DW-WORLD.
He and others in the car industry and related fields are strongly against putting a general limit on autobahn speed. They note that many stretches of the country's 11,980 km (7,444 miles) of freeway already have permanent limits on them and that other sections have so-called dynamic speed limits, which are imposed according to traffic, road or weather conditions.
"We also have to remember where our jobs are coming from," Hövenkenmeier added. "We sell a lot of cars all over the world because we have no speed limit," he said. "People want German cars because they know they've been built for high speeds on the highway."
The US does not engineer this way, although Cadillac seems to be moving in that direction. Perhaps a new "Indianapolis-Vegas Speed Way" should be built here to make it easier to travel through the less populated areas. Then the cars could be improved to match!
Regards,
OW
Best Regards,
Shipo
Regards,
OW
Best Regards,
Shipo
Only if you let things like that bother you. I just would enjoy the countryside!
Regards,
OW
"The legal driving age in Germany is 18, though the age requirement for renting a car is often 21. Getting a driver's license usually costs between 1,500 and 2,000 euros ($2,000 to 2,700) and requires a minimum of 25 to 45 hours of professional instruction and 12 hours of theory.
Though speed limit signs aren't posted everywhere, that doesn't mean there aren't any. In cities and town, the speed limit is 50 km/h (31 mph), unless otherwise posted, and it may be 30 km/h in residential areas. On normal two-lane highways the limit is 100 km/h. Only freeways, or Autobahnen, have a "suggested" speed instead of a speed limit, which is usually 130 km/h. Speeds of 160 to 200 km/h are common on some freeways.
Autobahn is the German word for "freeway." It does not refer to one particular street.
Regards,
OW
My sense of driving around Europe is that in some countries at least they are much more skillful drivers--certainly this was my experience in Germany and Italy. I really like driving there and one can see why BMWs are what they are when you drive their roads.
At one time in our past, I believe there was a plan for a separation of trucks from the non-commercial traffic nationwide. There are some non-commercial roads but ultimately, it's a mix between 2 points.
We could use the same separation requiring training and heightened vehicle capability requirements to allow more efficient transportation. Heck, I've seen some real winners pass re-inspection!
I hope this doesn't sound too elitist!
Regards,
OW
As far as not liking the salesman, he's a car salesman. Why these guys don't spend 5 minutes memorizing features, colors and such is beyond me. The fact is, you are more of an expert in two minutes of googling than 90% of salesman.
BIG TIP: if you credit is OK you should get 3.9% financing. Otherwise, WALK. In case you're interested, the TOTAL cost to finance, say 32K, is about %3600. Not per year, the total cost for 5 years. It's ALMOST FREE MONEY.
I would NOT lease unless you can drive off with nothing or next to nothing down. If they ask for a big chunk of change on a two or three year lease, guess what? Divide that by the number of months in your lease. Now look at your payment. If you can't lease with no money down for a low rate, WALK.
A brand new 2008 BMW 328i with Sport Package, Steptronic, and Metallic Paint has an MSRP of $38,825 ($1,000 over invoice would be $36,800).
Nothing personal, but I think you might have a hard time unloading your car with your current terms...
Payments sounded high to me, but I haven't put my Excel sheet together yet to do the math quickly.
the dealer said he can get me 5.99 % . let me know asap. i ordered my car last month and its already en route. should be at dealer lot in a week. thanks
I have heard two opinions on leasing and don't really know which is best...
Should I put a lot down to get a lower payment?
Or should I only pay what I need and fight for a good rate?
I have near perfect credit, its at 820 right now.
I am trading in a 2002 Acura CL type S
I have never owned a BMW, so I do not know how much I can talk them down on pricing or a monthly payment...
I am pretty much hoping to walk out with a new 328i coupe w/ automatic, sport & premium package for under 500 a month... you think I could do that?
I live in Miami, FL.
any help would be great!!!! I appreciate it.
No, not without dumping lots of money down on the lease (generally considered a very bad thing to do), or leasing your car via the European Delivery program (of course then you'll need to fly to Germany and spend at least a night or two before flying home).
Best Regards,
Shipo
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive