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Like I said hopefully they will know by then with all the other Fits to work on just how to set up the floor mats. I dont have AC button problems. I dont even have the car! lol
Oh yeah, if you need the A/C on, you can set it to defogger setting. You will still have the vent on the driver and passenger side. That was my workaround while waiting for the part for 2 weeks.
Good luck!
Good to know and thanks! I feel lucky tho, I get to go thru the entire breakin period without having to use the AC.
Sad but with all the cars I've owned, my previous Acura TSX and Honda Fit seems to be the ones giving me so much problems and the most dealer trips and those surveys they send a day after their non-service are really aggravating.
I had absolutely horrible service and horrible problems with my mazda when I first bought it. I cant believe it ever made it to 175K miles cuz it was such a POS when I first got it. When I went thru with the shredder I decided to toss all those letters to mazda central telling them how bad the service was.
I am hoping the honda dealer is a gem. So far, so very good.
Wish me luck!
If not there are two more within half hour radius.
1. HVAC temp knob dim spot at 1:00 position - I will have to find out tonight if any change but as per them, they can't fix it. As per their notes, "Special order knob. Replaced the knob for the HVAC control for the heat. Tech noticed there is 1 lightbulb on the control and there is a piece of plastic on the control at the 12:00 position going down to about 9-3 causing a shadow". If that was true, then why was the dim spot not there before? Would you guys be able to verify to see if its me not noticing this before?
2. Dashboard Center Panel - They are still going by the "commercially acceptable" finding. I told them that they had 1 Fit on the lot and we can compare but they seem to ignore my request. I asked a comparison the last time too with a Fit on the lot and that was ignored as well.
3. Rattle coming from top of the front center vents - From their notes, "tech re-secured the bolts and reset the panel. Also installed foam tape behind the area". Hey, the tech actually fixed this one. The car sounds like its brand new again albeit 6 mos old. At least, this is making me love my Fit again.
I'll check tonight for the light and see.
You are very perceptive, as I seriously have never noticed this shadow before today.
Here is what the temperature knob in my car looks like. Not the best picture as it was done with my cell phone camera, but nevertheless it should do the trick:
How did I notice? I really don't know. It could have started when I kept looking at the dash panel misalignment, then trying to figure out where the rattle was coming from. I guess I kept zoning in on the area. :P
Thanks again! So its looking like I'm down to 1 problem left which at this point is kinda moot. I'm thinking I can live with it to preserve the fixed rattle issue on my car.
By the way, I mirror you so in so many posts, bobw3, that I feel as though I have found my long-lost twin.
I drive a SS AT and would definitely buy it again.
Kathleen
Not terribly effective IMO, since the bars get in the way, and it prevents you from folding it flat later.
If you find it, could you let us know? (post a website with part number etc?)
Thanks if you can.
Let me think, lemme think....
Ran across this, this was cool....lol
http://www.autoanything.com/truck-tents/60A2945A0A0.aspx
Hmmm....did you google it?
One was maxdax.com. I forget the other.
Thanks
Should I consult Honda before moving the seat?
I'm missing my 91 civic hatchback!
Lumbar Fit Support
It permanently shapes itself to the driver's back according to the unique shape of the driver. I wish I could have one here.
In the same line of events, my wife was going out to lunch with three of her co-workers, two of whom are 6'3" and weigh at least 200 pounds each, and she offered to drive. The big guys took at look at the Fit and allegedly said, "Wait a minute. We can't go into this thing!" Both of them fit in the backseat no problem, however, and not only that, said to my wife, "This thing is rather comfortable back here."
That's the same expression that an owner of a large pick-up gave me when I got to my car in the Home Depot parking lot with a number of 8-foot long 2x4s. Using utility and long mode I was able to fit everything in. Sure, my car was left with only one useable seat, but I was able to still close the hatch.
I had the opportunity to test-drive a Fit Sport MT last week and noticed my feet getting seriously uncomfortable after ~15 minutes behind the wheel. After scooting *way* back my feet were happier but I'm not sure I'd want to drive like that long-term; I like the wheel a lot closer. (Not two inches closer as someone else said; more like half a foot!) FWIW I'm 6'0 and 160 pounds. Coming from a 92 Ford Explorer, also a manual shifter.
I've pre-ordered a Fit Sport MT and probably have until April to change my mind. I like everything else about the car and would hate for this to be a deal-breaker... but, it is pretty fundamental!
I'd especially like to hear the experiences of manual-transmission drivers, as the whole pedal thing seems a lot more acute in that case.
My legs hurt a bit at first too, but I'm used to it now. I think I had some muscles that weren't used to supporting the weight of my leg.
Shouldn't there be a fuse box where you can disable the circuit for the dome light? This worked like a charm on my '92 Explorer at star parties. Only drawback was that it also happened to erase the memory on the radio.
Bottom line: I've convinced myself that I can live with the odd ergonomics. Here's what I found:
1) Seat height *does* play a significant role for me. Sitting on a fat cushion I get a better angle on the pedals, and my knees can still fit under the wheel, at least at the highest tilt. Can't push this strategy too far, though, or the rearview mirror becomes a forward blind spot.
2) For me the problem is the accelerator, not the clutch. I need my right heel on the floor to modulate the throttle properly, so the too-vertical pedal in the Fit bends my foot too sharply upward => rapid fatigue. My clutch foot is fine because I'm used to moving the whole foot instead of pivoting at the ankle.
3) If I slide my right foot back until just the tips of my toes are at the lower edge of the accelerator, this is much more comfortable, but it doesn't feel secure---I have to consciously force myself to put my foot there instead of sliding it forward fully onto the pedal where it starts to hurt. I conclude that a longer, aftermarket pedal could solve this issue; it might be possible to improve the angle a bit, too, by shimming the lower attachment point of such a pedal/cover. Seems a reasonable DIY task.
4) Stuff that didn't work for me: Sliding the seat all the way back (gotta have some bend in my elbows, sorry); raising the floor below the pedals with a book (minor improvement, but not as effective as I'd hoped).
Has anyone tried aftermarket pedals yet? Any suggestions?
The main problem is that the steering wheel is too far forward in relation to the pedals. With the seat moved all the way back where my legs can stretch out a little, I can't recline the seat at all without having to extend my arms fully to grasp the steering wheel. I like to have some bend in my elbows and at least a little recline for my back.
I've tried moving the seat forward but this exacerbates the other problem -- lack of thigh support on the seat cushion. Being closer to the pedals increases the vertical angle of my lower legs, which lifts them further off the seat. My legs then tend to splay outwards, with the outside of my lower right leg resting uncomfortably on the center console. The vertical angle is also uncomfortable for my right ankle, which requires the foot to bend unnaturally upward to conform with the angle of the gas pedal.
I'm on the verge of seriously regretting the purchase of this otherwise excellent vehicle. I've never had these problems in any other car and I'm scratching my head as to how Honda could have done so poorly on ergonomics.
I'm going to try using a wedge cushion that will support my thighs closer to the knee. This should keep my legs from splaying outward. If this works, I may integrate the cushion with a seat cover so I don't have to deal with placing the cushion every time I get in and out of the car. I also like the idea of shimming the gas pedal to reduce the angle.
I've bought a second hand car, now. I'll be watching to see if they do anything to enhance the seating position, but as it is, I can't see myself buying a Fit.
So pretent the Fit is an SUV/truck/minivan, in which case they're all designed to have you sit like you're in a chair, and you'll find that the steering wheel isn't so far away.
I wish I had found this forum before I purchased my fit.
1) sliding the seat forward or back
2) adjusting the seatback from slight recline to fully upright
3) adjusting the tilt on the steering wheel
I think 2tallformyfit is probably right. The ergonomics of the front seat are suitable only for short drivers. There's plenty of headroom, but the front of my thighs do not rest on the seat cushion and my right leg rests uncomfortably on the center console. This is especially exacerbated when I move the seat forward to be closer to the steering wheel. I can live with the seatback fully upright, but that still doesn't overcome the faulty geometry. Honda really needed to offer a telescoping steering wheel and an angle adjustment on the seat cushion, or change the geometry altogether.
I haven't given up yet. I'll begin fashioning a wedge cushion today, despite the zero degree weather here in Chicago. Tomorrow I'll be preoccupied with a sporting event.
For sure there are 2 tall drivers who can't get comfortable!
The upright seating position may be more like an SUV, but the footwell doesn't have the vertical depth to fully implement the conversion. So, from the waist up, I was driving an SUV, but from the waist down, I was still in a subcompact. It just didn't work for me, and sadly, I had to move on.
It is also my opinion that if you have to go through this much trouble to find a comfortable fit, then it is not the right vehicle for you. I doubt many people would buy a pair of shoes or a jacket if comfort were an issue. Why would you compromise on something as expensive as a car?
1) My Seat Cushion. I bought a Walmart seat cushion for about $20 that is made of molded silicone in a removable pillow-case type mesh. It's very comfortable and firm without the "sweat factor." I can move it around as needed and it provides the added thigh support I needed.
2) Pedal Covers. I bought peadal covers at AutoZone for about $15 and installed them with zipties. Not very elegant, but if you do it right it is more secure than the screws they come with and totally removable if necessary. The covers extend the bottom lip of the pedals down a few inches so I can rest my heel on the floor and not have to drive with just my toes.
3) Multiple floor mats. I bought floormats from Walmart and stacket them on eachother to raise the floor about an inch. In comination with the other improvments, the driving position is quite comfortable now. My muscles have also adjusted to the ergonomics, so I'm sure that helps too, but I don't regret purchasing the Fit for a minute now that this problem is resolved. It takes a little work to get it right, but its worth it. I've taken some very long drives without any big problems other than the normal "car fatigue". Of course, this is not to say that I'd prefer the Fit over a minivan or other long-range cruiser car but it certainly isn't the problem it used to be. Hope this helps!
So, whats the trick?
I have been scooting front seat as far forward as I can get it and then tilting the front seat backwards and down to mee the other but the bar that holds the headrest (which I take off to attempt this) seems to be prohibiting the downward movement.
If there is a trick, someone please help because I cannot get it flat/flush!
-Matt
-Matt
Thanks to you Matt, I have now successfully put the seats into every possible configuration.
YAY!
It did indeed go flush once I reclined the back seat.
It wasn't clear in the owners manual to me at all, or perhaps I just didn't get the back seat reclined as far as it will go.
Thanks again, you are a lifesaver!
I have the same problem, any good position for long drive. When i haved purchase my FIT sport, the drive test was not long.and now it's a problem for me. I want keep my car for a long time but if i cant find a solution for position of the driver seat i dont keep this car
Thank's
Ooops, sorry. You meant the bike's front wheel.
After my experience I don't see how it would be possible to not remove the front wheel, which takes all of 5 sec. with a quick-release skewer, which I'm pretty sure ALL real bikes have now. The exception is probably *#?!Mart bikes. But why someone would put their personal safety at risk on one of those is beyond me. To each his own, I guess.
Do you have to have the seat shifted back at the Honda dealership? About how much does this cost to do? How long does your car have to be in the shop?
(I also have long arms and think I could cope with being farther from the steering wheel.)
I happy now!
:confuse:
Does anyone have any idea what this might be attached to, and why it popped out all of a sudden? I hope it is a minor thing, and I can just neatly snip it off, but thought I see if anyone has other ideas first.
Thanks
~Marc