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The 4-cyl pulls plenty hard about 80% of the time. The only time where you get any remote feeling of hesitation is when you're below around 1500 RPM's and accelerating slowly. Push it up to 2000 RPM's, and acceleration is much much quicker and easier to modulate. At less than 1500 RPM's the engine feels very lethargic.
I've test driven the V6 model as well, and you are correct. It has great power and pull. However, the power curve is far from linear. The engine still has the majority of its grunt in the higher RPM's. If you pair the engine with a manual transmission, it feels much more powerful... The engine was designed to work with a manual transmission first, and the CVT was designed around the engine. If Nissan was smart, they'd design the engine to have a much broader power band and make full use of the CVT. As it stands, even the V6, while powerful, does not take full advantage of the CVT.
I seriously doubt we're going to revert to an era of 4-cyl's and V6's only. If anything, engines will continue to get bigger and more fuel efficient. I would expect the 4-cyl to gradually disappear again in favor of much more refined, torque rich V6's. That's what lexus chose to do with their IS250, and last I checked, that car was a huge success.
no if your just moderately accelerating and it won't switch gears, and your in drive (not manual mode), then you need to get it looked at.
It's weird, I know, but it's very good for both fuel economy and power. There's nothing wrong with your car. I promise
Should I DEAL or NO DEAL? I thought it was good until they tagged on the destination fee at signon.
ANY ADVICE would be welcomed and appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
It is really irritating. It is as if the car wants to die and yet fights to keep going. Nissan tries to tell me that this is normal stuff. I tell them that it is not normal for a car to act this way. I almost forgot that another characteristic of this problem is that it is most prevalent when it is warm. If the temperature is above 85 it really will do it a lot. If the Temp. is lower than that it does it a lot less and when it does occur, it not as bad. I say what out for the CVT transmission especially if it is in a 2997 Altima.
Rich Gray
Arnold, MO
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My problem is:
When I am traveling at 35MPH or less, and I have to go down a hill (steep or shallow) and my foot is off of the accelerator the engine RPM automatically goes up to around 3500. It seems that the CVT is locked and forces the engine RPM to rise thereby causing the car to accelerate.
The only way to stop this is to jam on the brake or go to manual and push + twice.
Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
Does anyone know if this has this been declared a problem or a safety issue?
You feel the car accelerates b/c when the RPM goes up, the speed is slightly reduced b/c of the high RPM but then when the RPM goes back to normal, it seems the car goes faster.
Well last night it died again. Stepped on the gas and it lost all power and died. I was able to get it started and drive about two blocks to my house. It would not go faster than 5 mph. I went out this morning and it would start but not go above 1000 rpms and then die shortly after.
Called the dealer, scheduled a tow truck. Go out around 11, start it, and it runs fine. what the heck is up with this? I am so frustrated and I am tired of paying almost $500 a month for a car that breaks down and is less than 2 years old. I should have kept my 98 Honda with 130K miles. It never broke down on me. I am so dissapointed I feel like I was sold a piece! :lemon:
based on what you stated is happening it definitely sounds like a problem between the CVT and engine, I just hope the car constantly dying off and on for you isn't doing any damage to the engine
I have been very displeased with Nissan and for that matter, Infiniti customer service both at the dealership level and headquarters level in regards to addressing problems or concerns with people's vehicle; if Nissan does not address this to your satisfaction or keeps telling you nothing is wrong I suggest getting a lemon lawyer involved and reporting the situation to your state's BBB, Lemon Law Department, and the NHTSB!!!
Good Luck Man, Hope You Find Out What is Wrong
Word to the Wise, Acura/Honda has way better customer service then Nissan does and even Toyota/Lexus treat you a little bit better then Nissan Consumer Affairs
I've leased cars with all of them over the years and by far Honda and Acura have been the best at addressing my consumer problems and concerns!
I just learned from Maxima.org that Nissan has extended the powertrain coverage of ALL Nissan models equipped with CVT due to the amount of problems people with early 1st generation Murano's and 6th generation Maxima owners have experienced
The warranty coverage is now 10 years or 120,000k miles, which ever comes first
What concerns me the most about the CVT is when people like you, who have a 2008 model or 2009 model are having CVT problems; those are recent model years; hope Nissan is in for the long haul of paying for CVT problems and replacements!!!
Rich
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Just an update. It took a couple of days but the dealership was able to diagnose the issue. It turned out that it wasn't a transmission problem after all. I'm not sure how it happend but the strut was loose and that what was causing the clunk. Anyway, great service and they took the time to find the issue and fix it. Good experience here.
"First, to provide you with additional assurance regarding your overall cost of ownership we have doubled the warranty period for the transmission in your Altima. The existing powertrain warranty coverage of 5 years/60,000 miles will be extended at no cost to you, for CVT repairs, replacements or related towing, to 10 years/120,000 miles, whichever comes first. This extension is effective immediately and requires no action on your part...."
"Second, Nissan will reimburse customers who have previouly paid to repair or replace their CVT, if the repairs would have been covered within the new extended warranty period. Even if you no longer own your Nissan we will reimburse you for past CVT repairs that would have been covered under the extension of the warranty".
Then it goes on with several other things, but there is a phone number to contact the Nissan CVT Customer Assistance at (888) 388-0318. The deadline for submitting the Reimbursement Claim Form is July 31, 2010.
Hope this helps someone!
We had our transmission replaced about 6 months ago, and it is in the shop again becuase the trans. went out on my husbands drive home yesterday.
Thank god we have an extended warranty, but apparently Nissan knows what a heep of crap they have in there CVT that is why they sent the letter.
We too own an 07 Altima.
I have the 2nd Gen CVT in my 2010 Maxima and it has been flawless so far and much smoother and refined over the 1st Gen but I don't think the Altima got the 2nd Gen CVT till 2009 I believe? But don't quote me on that!
I hope this 2nd Gen CVT has most of the kinks/problems worked out of it that the 1st Gen CVT did! :sick:
Eventually got above 15MPH and then car accelerated normally.
Dealer says this is the 2nd car they have with this problem and are waiting for the CVT Valve Body from Nissan to repair. Said Valve Body unavailable in US.
Can anyone shed some light on this situation?
Anyway, I am willing to start a "Class Action Suit" against Nissan themselves to get something done. I need at least 3 others to join in this suit to get this started. This is my only vehicle, and I need something done now...not people and dealerships telling me to deal with it. So if you are interested in getting your situation resolved and holding Nissan accountable, let me know, because surely I am not the only one that can't just go out and get another car.
I know that my own experience has not been negative enough to dislike the car overall, but I can see how the minor CVT issues my Sentra has could be far worse in other cars. Because with any product, there will always be a percentage of output that fails, and the people who bought that output will be understandably dissatisfied. :lemon:
I love the CVT and how smooth the acceleration is, and I've come to love the way I can floor the accelerator up an onramp without hearing or feeling any shifting. But I hate that I have to compensate for the odd engage/disengage transmission jerkiness when I'm stuck in traffic at the 20-30mph range.
...Statistically it doesn't make sense. :confuse:
Me, 2007 Altima -> now 2010 Altima-No issue
Brother in law, 2009 Rogue- No issue
Sister in law, 2008 Altima-No issue
Now, I'm not sure when the updated/more refined 2nd Gen CVT made its way into the Altima. I know it was in them for the 2009 model year, but am unsure if the 2008 Altima's had the 1st or 2nd Gen CVT??
As of 2009 model year, all Nissan's had the upgraded 2nd Gen CVT and there are very few problems thus far with the 2nd Gen CVT compared to the 1st. There are still some minor hitcups but nothing in the intensity/severity/ or frequency that was seen with the 1st Gen.
I know this is no consolation for the 1st Gen CVT owners who went through hell when they had problems. I have a 2010 Max with the 2nd Gen CVT and thus far it has performed flawlessly, smoothly, and without trouble for almost 15k miles. I know several people that are into the 60-80k mile range on their 2009 and 2010 Altima/Maxima having no troubles with the CVT.
The main REASONS Nissan extended the CVT warranty to 10yrs/120k miles, was (1) b/c of all the problems 1st Gen CVT owners had and fear of massive lawsuits and to help out people who spent thousands in CVT/engine repairs, (2) b/c they invested a lot of time, energy, and money into designing/putting the CVT throughout their lineups and (3) for Nissan, as far as they are concerned, the CVT is here to stay and they want to show current and future customers that they are going to backed the CVT and are investing and improving it for future generations of CVT.
You got to remember, even with the 2nd Gen CVT, they put a entirely new transmission into already established engines. Within the next generation, they are going to be starting to design engines aroudn the CVT so the efficiency and refinement should go through the roof and there should no longer be any problems with them, since both the engine and transmission will be designed around the other.
Mike