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Hope they improve styling with future models. At this point, they have made blunders with the above models.
Anyway, has anyone pre-ordered one of these vehicles for less than MSRP?
Just kidding .. no flames pleeease.
Congratulations on being able to make a decision. We'll be anxious to here what you have ordered.
Where did you find the MSRP?
That being said I want another M3 for a daily driver and the new M3 looks very nice... I'd wait till Spring but I want the convertibile which won't be out till Q4 of 2008 apparently... Anyone know if it is stupid or even possible to get a one year lease on a pre-owned M3 to hold me for a year? Or maybe I should just get a 2 year lease for an M3 and resist temptation for one year.. :confuse:
Where are you located that already has trucks at the dealer. Curious.
I am surprised that they've arrived in NJ already as we do not even have pricing announced in our area yet. Our distro website lists the units on the way though- looks like our first one ia arriving the 18th!
I knew I wanted a Limited with most options, or a Platinum. I thought the 20 inch wheels looked better, but I drive on a dirt road and I am not sure if the lower-profile tires would hurt me. It is such a large vehicle that the 20s really looked good. About two weeks ago I looked at the dealer allocation sheets and considered four localish dealers. All of the vehicles coming in were Limited or Platinum with AWD and nearly every option. Dealers seemed to be allocated either 1 or 2. Wed I knew that pricing came out, so I made them offers. They all at least $53K MSRP. If you want a stripped SR5 it will be a while it seems. I did not want an SR5 because it does not come with a leather-wrapped steering wheel. While I am ok with cloth seats, a plastic steering which is not acceptable. I know you can add it, but I think it might feel too thick or not look factory. I wanted one this year because it would save me an extra $1000 in taxes compared to if I bought in Jan. The dealer nearest me had a black Platinum with a black leather interior (did not even know there was black leather available). It had every option added on top of the base features including remote start, which is not even on the option sheet. MSRP was over $59K. It seemed like a lot but it was still over 10K cheaper than a smaller Land Cruiser, Mercedes GL450, etc. And now with the great aluminum engine and independent suspension and luxury features, it is probably not really inferior in any way.
I am supposed to have it in about two weeks. So I bought a Japanese car on the anniversary of Pearl Harbor.
That is RIDICULOUS! WAY over priced.
If someone is dropping 60k on a vehicle, however, they are probably in a financial position that they really don't care about depreciation, right?
Anyone who has bought one, please let us know what you think once you take it home. I would love to buy one, but am probably going to wait a few months for pricing to drop.
Also, from the initial press conference, and the guy's statement that Toyota would have lots more to say in the coming months, I am guessing a hybrid version of the Sequoia will show up closer to spring. I am really interested to see how this new Sequoia does with consumers in light of gas prices and consumer sentiment.
Just thought I would share this so others could try for a similar deal.
It's way overpriced for a truck that just about everyone thinks is ugly and has awful interior. So pal its over priced for the 2008 Toyota Seqouia! No need to compare to anything else.
Also, if you really think that someone would pay 53K for an '07 Seqouia LTD then you need to go study some more.
You are also way off based on what you consider to be in the Sequoia's class. The Denali and Mercedes 450???? Why because of the $60K sticker??? Those are luxury SUV's, the Sequoia is not. I have owned several Toyota's, the quality is good. However, Toyota has figured out that people like you are obviously willing to fork out $$$$$ for that "quality". The quality is not as good as the premium they are charging in my opinion. Which brings up another topic:
If you want FACT, then get the hell off an internet message board. That is what they are for...OPINIONS.
As for blurting out hot air, it sounds like you are just trying to defend your buying decision, which is understandable, but don't be the pot calling the kettle black.
Based on what your saying it sounds like a sales person would welcome you walking back in the door anytime. I don't know your study habits, but you do realize you bought a new truck at the worst possible time and in the worst possible situation. Or then again....
http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroadtests/14341/tested-2008-toyota-sequoia-plat- inum-4wd.html
"We logged a 0-to-60-mph time of 6.6 seconds and a quarter-mile time of 15.2 seconds at 92 mph."
Cars which are about the same or slower:
http://www.exoticcarsite.com/0-60-quarter-mile-times.htm
1968 Chevrolet Corvette 327 7.7 15.6
Dodge Charger SE 440ci 7.4 15.2
1977 Ferrari 308 GTB 8.2 17.0 (Magnum PI car)
1983 Ferrari 308 GTBi Quattrovalvole 6.8 15.2
1967 Ford Mustang (390ci V8 w/4spd) 7.4 15.6
1994 Ford Mustang GT 6.7 15.1
1993 Ford Taurus SHO 7.5 17.0
1983 Lamborghini Jalpa 7.3 15.4
1984 Lotus Turbo Esprit 6.6 15.3 (James Bond car)
1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.6 15.2
2003 Mini Cooper S, Manual 7.0 15.5
1991 Nissan 300ZX Turbo (auto) 7.0 15.4
1991 Toyota Supra Turbo 7.1 15.6
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/11758/all-the-latest-annoyances.html
Since I live by my Valentine One, for my 911 and current Sequoia, I'm going to have to pass on the laser cruise control option when I place my order.
The combination of a high output v8 with 6 speed auto, rear independent suspension, power folding third row, and available a/c seats is unique. I've logged a lot of miles in an 07 Denali and it is a great driving SUV. But third row comfort is terrible and the removable seats are not what I'm looking for. Calling a Denali a "luxury" SUV is generous as the only distinction between it and a suburban/tahoe/Yukon is the drivetrain. Fords products have better interior space utilization than GM and the 6 speed is nice but they are underpowered (Lincoln or ford). Nissan/infiniti have a similar story as the fords, but I'll go ahead and call them ugly. Comparing the GL450 with any of these is tough as it is just a step smaller cargo wise but somehow provides the same or better interior comfort for occupants. However I don't want to own one (I'm 30 years old and can't pull off the Benz).
I think the sequoia offers a lot. For me, I'm looking at 2wd, and loaded Denali, QX, and Sequoia are within 1000 MSRP. The Sequoia is the one I want and that is a decision each buyer makes for themselves. Yet when I go to buy in a month or two actual sale price will play into this. Just because I can afford a 60k SIV doesn't mean I am willing to blow a few thousand just to get my truck a few months before the next guy.
Let's avoid the colorful metaphors as you would relate them to other members and, instead, keep any discussion pertaining to hot air confined to the manifold, exhaust and HVAC. Thanks.
tidester, host
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Interesting compilation--I look forward to giving the sequoia a drive. I tried the 08 Land Cruiser last week and was very impressed with the engine and transmission combo.
I would have been much more impressed with the SEQ. if they had beefed up the interior. Even on the Platinum edition, it was sadly lacking the plush feel I think most buyers will be looking for in this segment. However, overall I think the SEQ was vastly improved. I used to feel as though I were driving a school bus in the previous model, now it is very agile and even seems as though it would be easy to park in tight spaces. The acceleration is fantastic, although a bit noisy and the braking is spot on. With the smart Roll sensing airbags, unibody frame, traction, EBD etc. I am sure the safety will be right up there in the 5 star range with the Ford.
Should you buy one right off the transport truck? Well, NO. You are going to pay more. Is it worth the money with a little negotiating- well, YES.
My first car was a '78 Trans Am, 6.6l V8, 4-speed manual. 0-60 was around 7.5 seconds and mileage was ~12 mpg in the city and 17 mpg highway. At the time, that was considered a fast car.
I'm essentially looking for a Black or Slate...
Thanking you in advance.