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Yes, I am getting paranoid early.
My question is, "WHY?!" Every time it rains, and even when it doesn't rain, my windows squeak like nobody else business. It is not bad at all when the windows are dry, but when it is water is condensing on my windows, or when it rains, it is terrible. Is there any way to fix this problem?
The main component of the kit is a repair bracket that bolts to the stock window bracket and replaces the broken portion of the plastic piece. Essentially, it is a powdercoated steel bracket which the stock spiral cable can screw into. In order to install it, the regulator assembly is removed from the vehicle, two rivets are drilled out, and the broken portion of the plastic piece is cut off, which can be done with a utility knife. The replacement bracket is bolted into place (using the hardware included in the kit) which allows the cable to be inserted into it, same as stock. Oh, I was wrong too. the kit is only 39.95 now.
Btw, my poor BIL bought a brand new 2007, and yep, first window already had to be fixed.
We told him so......
Now the warrenty is off and now the front window won't stay up .
Why this isn't a recall is beyond me .
keep me informed please .
from a LAST time jeep buyer .
Reading everyone else's posts made my heart absolutely sink. It's hard to believe that Chrysler would turn a blind eye on such an obvious flaw in their product. Needless to say, when my warranty expires in 6 months I don't think I'll be worried anymore. That's because I am selling it.
Good riddance, Jeep. Rhymes with CHEAP for a reason I guess.
Of course, last time they fixed mine and it went bad in one week, they tried to tell me they didnt see any problems.
My husband stood there almost believing them, but I made them look and they finally replaced the regulator.
Well, my warranty is apparently about to be up. I'm wondering from now on if I will be able to go to a repair shop, and explain that I know it is the regulator? That should be cheaper to fix and much easier than going to the dealership.
I still want to trade this thing in, but in these economic times I dont think I can.
:lemon:
Like most you we can't afford the 300 to 400 dollars to repair them every other month .
DON"T EVER BUY ANOTHER CHRYSLER PRODUCT !!!!! :lemon:
Thank You
Does anyone know if this can be fixed by non-Jeep people. And I mean a fix where it is not temporary, but an actual fix where it will never happen again? Jeep themselves have said it falls due to the fact that the part causing the issue is plastic in the window, and that with weather changes it expands and contracts which causes the window to slip. Please let me know if anyone knows if it can be fixed outside of Jeep? My worry is I have an extended warranty and I worry about taking it outside of Jeep and having them say that my warranty is now voided if they see someone else worked on it.
I just took it in a couple weeks ago and hopefully they have made a permenant fix. For anyone with this problem, they replaced a body control module that runs the electrical things in the jeep. Since I started complaining about this before the factory warranty expired, they replaced it for free and even threw in a free oil change.
I am surprised that jeep hasn't recalled the liberties because I agree that the windows falling down or not rolling down is a safety concern. I don't know how recalls work...is there somewhere for consumers to complain?
I have seen jeep's going down the road with tape holding them up ( ours has tape on it too as we can't afford the 300 to 400 repair cost.
I have written to Chrysler with NO satisfaction .
Best thing you can do is to pass the word to family and friends NOT to buy ANY Chrysler product .
This is not limited to just the Liberty's , ALL Jeep's are having the same issues .
They are all :lemon: .
If you have any luck please keep us all informed .
Thanks
I am in Phoenix, AZ area. If anyone wants to join a picket line I am game.
Thank you for letting me vent. I hope you all have a great day.
B
Bottom Line: If you are a tax payer, you are now essentially a shareholder of Chrysler and GM. We have just invested in two companies that do not fix problems, but perpetuate them. I want out of this Jeep so bad. And I only hope the company stays around long enough so that the resale value of my POS doesn't fall any more than it already has. This company is an absolute joke! what ever happened to pride in building American vehicles has surely flown the coop with the Chrysler. Every Chrysler employee should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen to what was once a fine representation of American craftsmanship. they all have played a part in allowing this company to do this to the consumers. shame on Chrysler.
Without knowing too much about how much it actually costs to make a Jeep, or any other vehicle for that matter, common sense would lend me to believe that if making a profit equated only to building products with sub-par parts, that everyone and their uncle would be in the business of making cars with parts of poor quality. There is so much more to making a profit than simple supply chain or procurement principals. I would venture to say that many companies that try to give their profits a shot in the arm by ordering cheaper and poorer quality parts quickly find themselves out of business that is unless a government bails them out. Therefore, "Caribu1", I beg your pardon, whether we would like to admit to it or not, we as taxpaying Americans have just invested in a company that has proven their inability to make a profit time and again, with good parts or bad ones, probably since the Iaccoca days.
In a world where beauty reigns what you say is true.
Inquire a little about "Renault" and "Daimler Benz" during and just after WW2. Later in time, in the 70's, Renault workers were considered as 'civil servants' by the rest of the French population. People had no other choice than pay too much for what I found was crap compared to the north American products I was familiar with.
I wish you all a better, objective and profitable New Year
good to hear from you again. However, I am not sure I understand your point. I think you are saying that folks in France were forced to pay too much for crappy cars built by Renault at the time, somewhere after WWII. France embraces socialism, and Totalitarianism if I am not mistaken, so having the government prop up companies in France is not uncommon. Not to mention, that in the days and years following WWII, times were much different. Marketing was different. Allegiance to one brand was essentially unheard of, and as your response implies, competition was a force that essentially did not exist, and certainly was not allowed to thrive. Capitalism embraces healthy competition, and competition has a way of weeding out the non-competitive companies. That is of course, if it is left alone, and allowed to work it's magic. The government propping up a company that is clearly building a sub-par product is doing NO one any favors. There is a pretty decent article in the wall street journal a few days ago by one of their economists, Moore is his name. Anyway, in the article, he discusses Ayn Rand, and Atlas Shrugged. I think many of the ideals expressed in the book, as well as in the editorial column support my point. Here is that link if you have some time to research it, it's a pretty good article.
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On a lighter note, and getting back to the point of this thread, my driver's side window broke for the third time last night. Oh the joys of Liberty ownership. Also, my wife spoke to the folks at the dealership, and supposedly they are on revision "J" of the part that is supposed to fix this issue.
But we digress. :shades:
I can't keep track of all the various make/model issues around here, but is your problem the recurring one with the plastic gizmo that keeps falling off the window track (or does it fall of the motor?), sometimes letting the window drop into the door? Revision J doesn't sound too encouraging.
The article you refer to is exactly, word to word, the substance of EU public debates.
Industry is fine, it's the bankers that have 'cold feet'. We now have public mediators to negotiate credit lines for companies that already have their production potential fully committed.
If I buy a Jeep Liberty Sport CRD today with a tag of 33,000 Euros, in addition I am penalized by more than 2000 Euros simply for CO2 tax. Many people have money to buy cars but the government discourages us from buying and thus puts the automobile industry in front of a dilemma: who do you want to keep? civil servants or industry workers?
I think revision "J" stands for "junk" :shades:
Yeah, it's the recurring issue whereby the window mysteriously falls into the door. sometimes when the car isn't moving, and other times when your rolling down the highway, at a safe speed of course. But, according to Jeep, this isn't a safety concern, so it won't be recalled. Pretty interesting though.
As for the article, that was very interesting indeed. Although, one could certainly argue that the idea of Objectivism that Ayn was referring to, was never allowed to flourish. One of the fundamentals of her theory is the complete separation of politics and economics. Alan Greenspan's intervention throughout his term essentially put the kibosh on this part of the theory, at least I tend to think so. Not to mention we have special interest groups that are allowed to "sway" the "beliefs" of our elected politicians. I think this is one of the most detrimental aspects of our current political landscape. Essentially, we have made public office a mockery and have allowed ourselves to be ruled by folks that do not necessarily have anything further than their bank accounts in their best interests. Now, I digress . I appreciate the discourse Steve. Have a good one, and perhaps one day we will all be able to get rid of the cars that we probably paid too much for in the beginning anyway.
BTW, i just read your profile, and I am also an avid photographer. Not a good one by any means, but definitely a serious hobbyist.
We had an automobile tax proportional to the size of the engine; it was meant to assist elderly people. This tax was removed at the time life expectancy increased significantly
Perhaps removing the CO2 tax and helping people to upgrade their vehicles to use an equivalent to 'Blue-tech' (urea) technology could be a viable option. Our Jeeps could then run with their windows open (LOL)
It wouldn't hurt if everyone else emailed Jeep with your situation/complaints too.
customerassistre@chrysler.com
Hope that helps!
DaimlerChrysler Customer Service Assistance Center
PO Box 21-8004
Auburn Hills, MI 48321-8004
1-800-992-1997
I stopped at Ace Hardware to get some plastic for my window until I can get it to the shop. When I walked in I explained to the young man that I needed some clear vinyl for my car as my window fell down. He immediately said "Do you have a Jeep?" How strange was that! The manager there owned one and had the same problem and his neighbor has a Jeep and had the same issues!
I am also sending everything to the NADA (National Automobile Dealers Association)
National Automobile Dealers Association
8400 Westpark Drive
McLean, VA 22102
1-800-252-6232
"There is only one boss. The Customer. And he can fire everybody in the company from the chairman on down, simply by spending his money somewhere else."
Sam Walton (1918-1992
Founder of Wal-Mart
Our dealership said never to expect anything from Chrysler as they are totally in another country and will do absolutely nothing.
Currently working on ditching my Jeep, as I barely go anywhere anymore and my spouse and I can probably make it on one vehicle.
Much as I like the size and driving my Liberty Sport, I am just holding my breath waiting for the next window to fall.
Now if they only had a way to deal with the stupid rain staining seats.