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Best regards,
Shipo
It would appear that BMW in effect "cheaped out". The torque (300 - 405
# ft ) between the 335 I and the 335D is app 105 # ft MORE, add to that an additional safety factor, and you are probably talking a radical redesign, aka higher cost. Not even the 550I - 5 series V-8 has 405# ft (360 # ft only- only is way oxymoronic in this application)
So for as many as they anticipated selling, a 6 speed manual option probably makes no economic sense.
BMW used to be a very sporting brand in the US, but that was long ago and now they are one of the brands for the affluent who are just buying a sporty image, but don't really like to drive very much...or have a clue how to drive a manual.
Not all, mind you, but (given the number who want an automatic when they can have a manual) certainly most. BMW knows their market. It's another reason we will not see the 1-Series hatch here...unless they need the EPA numbers. Image.
Yes, indeed.
Regards,
Jose
To do so, I switched off the traction control (but not the sliding one) as recommended in the BMW manual. To start moving from a full stop, it was enough to put the stick in D mode or M mode and release the brake pedal. Torque was tamed. Too much pressure on the accelerator then or afterwards and the rear end could start to sideslip, though it was easy to control the sliding. With snow tires I don't feel it would be difficult to drive safely a 335d on snow for more long distances — provided enough ground clearance.
Here is some pics of the car (in a parking lot free of snow above of the snowed road)
Regards,
Jose
In the parking lot of the entrance to Pont d'Espagne. Pont d'Espagne is a mountain pass (by foot) between France and Spain. It belongs to the Central Pyrenees National Park which extends itself on both sides of the border. Closer villages to Pont d'Espagne are Cauterets in France and Panticosa in Spain.
You may see more pics of the place in my CarSpace Albums:
April Snow (2009)
Central Pyrenees 2007
Here is some example from there
Regards,
Jose
We are so behind the rest of the world on vehicles. We have been stuck with dinosaurs like GM, Ford & Chrysler for so long. Maybe when they go broke we will get some decent vehicles here in the USA.
Not if CARB & the EPA have anything to say about it.
Then there's the "image" thing which seems to drive BMW to send over the biggest baddest diesel in the lineup, rather than one or two of the really economical ones they have already available.
I agree with you by the way, but I've very nearly given up hope.
It would be political death to revoke emissions laws in those states with huge car populations. Nobody really wants that anyway.
EPA Mileage Estimates - Manual (City / Highway / Combined): 17 mpg / 26 mpg / 20 mpg;
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Of course my fav is the 16 mpg BMW M3
EPA Mileage Estimates - Manual (City / Highway / Combined): 14 mpg / 20 mpg / 16 mpg;
Would the owner of a 335d drive his new spiffy car just as much he might his old 750iL?
You betcha he would (I would too). Why not, I can afford it.
This is why I find it a bit strange to push diesels in the luxury end of the market as an "economical" car. People who can afford such a nice car as a 335 can afford as much fuel as they require for their pleasure. The idea that this type of car is somehow beneficial to mankind is rather ephemeral.
Of course it is certainly beneficial to the person driving it. Beats a Yaris all to hell. And for those destined to drive Yari, why not a turbo diesel version and the money saved goes to groceries?
Almost EVERYONE that I know anyway that has so called higher end cars has ridiculously low mileage. Indeed one can even ask in terms of mileage, why one even bought it?
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For the snow roads in scenario like the pictures l take this car out; with 553 ft of toque, what a friend of this car!
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For snow bowling, the S8 will be a lot of fun.
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The Bimmer which brings its possible best luxury car in really clean diesel form first time to this shore is not appreciated by most of people here, just because it is a diesel! To me, the 335D feels lighter and faster than the 335xi or 535xi, after I fully road test and daily driving the 335D, the bulky 750Li now is somewhat disgusting. Yes, you feel you drive a diesel car, because the neck breaking pushing back as you stomp down the pedal, and you feel it while you pull up the diesel isle in a gas station, currently in South Jersey, the diesel price is same as the premium, you don’t feel the pinch any more, how about the UREA thing? I was very concerned too; now, I don’t feel its existence except purposely looking down the small ring shape cover on the driver side rear bumper. And odd enough, the 35D engine looks smaller than the 35i.
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We get the 335d wagon too, and 535d sedan and wagon, 635d coupe and convertible too. X3, X5, X6 as well.
Oddly, there is no 335d convertible. Just 320d, 325d and 330d.
No need of urea for diesel cars in Europe. I figure out if we should used it it would be not a concern, as you say. I think is manufactured odorless, and as I posted time age, urea, even natural, is good for the skin. :surprise:
Regards,
Jose
In any event, after driving the pyrenees in that "rental" car, I can only say that I now wish I had never driven that car. I want it here SOOOO much!
I felt the same way after driving a 1.9 TDi A3 back in 2001 in Germany & Switzerland. I came home wanting one then, but it wasn't available. Still isn't, at least with a manual transmission.
Regards,
Jose
Drive all three and decide based on which one makes you smile the most. To me the 328i feels a bit more nimble, the 335i is seriously fast, and the 335d returns exceptional fuel economy coupled with very good performance. My main gripe with the diesel is that a manual transmission is not available. In my case I'd probably go with a 328i M Sport with a manual tranny.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
Thanks
With $20,000 as a budget, you are NOT shopping for a new diesel engine car, with the possable exception of something like a demo VW Jetta diesel. You do have enough budget for a nice Certified VW Jetta diesel sedan or (better) wagon and that is your best bet. Forget about new Merc or Beemer diesels...you cannot afford a $50,000+ new car with a $20,000 budget. A used 335d will still cost you about $40,000, so forget used BMW diesels. Now you can get a 2005-2006 MB W211 E320 cdi for close to your budget if not at it, but it will have a lot of miles and not much warranty left (even if it's a Certified). With a diesel, a lot of miles is no big deal and the E320 cdi diesel is one of the best. The problem is, it's in a Merc and Merc's are not Toyota-like in reliability and not cheap to fix when they break. This is pretty much true of all German cars. They are nicely designed, drive nice, but not all that reliable and pricey to fix for all but the simplest things. They tend to be needlessly complex, too.
The other thing is that while a diesle will get you about 30% better mileage, you can lose 10% and more of that advantage on the price of diesel vs. regular. Plus on older models (like the W211 E320 cdi), there really is a bit of an odor issue (I have one, trust me, it's true.) The newer models with urea injection and the later W211 BluTec V6's lack the odor issue. Not huge, but it is there.
If you are going to drive big miles at highway speeds (diesels do not do well on short city commutes...they don't warm up fast) and can live with spotty VW reliability, a 1-2 year old Jetta wagon diesel is the way to go. The DSG auto transmission is decent, but I have heard that they wear pretty quick and are pricey to fix. The manual is robust, but the clutch is not one of the better ones (to use) and the shift is a bit rubbery. Overall, it is a very nice car...almost bought one myself...and gives Prius-level highway mileage.
If I were you, I would buy a nice used Lexus or Infiniti or Acura sedan.
- nopcbs
In Mi, diesel is at $4.00 to $4.10 a gallon now. Regular is at $3.12 and premium 20 cents more. We pay 30% more for diesel than gasoline and the mpg advantage is nowhere near that vs. a comparable gas engine. More like 20%. Plus it is winter and diesels are slow to warm up and hate running "cold" in terms of mpg. I love my diesel, but sure wish diesel was at near parity to gas in price.
Looking at the X5 35D on the economy website, I see owners getting 30 MPG overall with mostly highway driving. That is nearly double my mileage on my last trip to AZ. I got 16 MPG in my SUV. Not to mention the range is almost double. Today in San Diego diesel is available close to me for $3.79 and Premium for $3.51. Only 7% more. Making the diesel X5 a clear winner. Diesel would have to be closer to $6 per gallon to be a factor.
People reporting mileage on the 2011 335d show over all average of 33-38 MPG. Which is much higher than the flaky EPA estimate of 27 MPG.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=29851&id=30056
The above said, the 335d cannot be had with a manual transmission, and as such, it will never find its way into any garage of mine.
The 335d comes with the more durable, possibly better automatic that the 7 series has to boot!
I won't argue about manual transmissions, I love them dearly, and BMW makes some of the best, but lets not drink too much Kool-Aid shall we! Many people can enjoy such a car in every day driving with a competent automatic.