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  • warde333warde333 Member Posts: 7
    Hello - I have been with out my CX7 (08) for 9 days now. The Turbo has failed. I have honored the request for service history and they will allow the repair of my car on one condition. They are sending an independent claims adjuster to the dealer to visually check the oil line to the Turbo. If he sees excessive SLUDGE, they will not repair my car. What is exessive SLUDGE - I am assuming from all the forums that it can be whatever they want so as to facilitate their need to refuse repairing any MAZDA. I have 62500 miles currently - at 57K the timing tensioner was rattling and I had this repaired (took 9 days as they kept misdiagnosing the part) - at 60K the right front oil filled motor mount went out. I have asked to be called when the adjuster arrives for inspection. I will be there for his evaluation - camera and records in hand. Wish me luck and say a prayer as well. Anyone who has or is going to start a class action law suit...put me on the list. I am ready to join the team. tks
  • warde333warde333 Member Posts: 7
    Hello Tank,
    I have started my own post on Edmunds #103. Please review and give me you thoughts. I am hoping to pressure this claims adjuster with info such as your blog. Any info you can offer is appreciated. my email is eward@apexfoodgroup.com. tks
  • dgturndgturn Member Posts: 1
    We had the exact same thing happen to our Mazda CX-07 and ended up having to buy a new engine - even after connecting with Mazda corporate. Now, we have just had to replace the "turbo" and the car is still not right. We had an outside company do the turbo work but the independent repair shop said there might also be a catalytic converter problem. It is now at the dealer's and they want $500 just to diagnose the problem.

    After spending upwards of $7,500 on this car, we are most interested in a class action suit. Clearly, this is a known Mazda problem since many others have had the same experience. How do we join together and get results? We have now been without our car for about 8 weeks and there is no end in site.

    Has anyone out there had any luck with going to the media or breaking through Mazda's corporate brick wall on this?
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  • bd0923bd0923 Member Posts: 1
    My husband bought a new 2007 Mazda CX-7 and has the engine problems you all are describing. Of course, they blamed it on severe engine sledge and maintenance neglect... very frustrating as we have documentation of regular maintenance and oil changes. Rather than pay the $7000 they quoted him for a "re-built" engine (whatever that means!), we found "Autowise" in Indianapolis, where a mechanic within 10 minutes told him it had to be timing chain, which then caused another slew of problems, and will fix it and stand behind it for $2,500. This all just surfaced this morning, and of course I went straight to the internet thinking there has got to be other stories out there - and of course there are plenty! We will be sending all of our maintenance documentation into Mazda USA, and will send copies to the Dealer and well as the Federal Govt agengy who oversees this. If there ever is an engine recall, we will expect to be reimbursed.

    Sorry to everyone who is experiencing the same thing. I know we won't be purchasing any more Mazdas... its too bad for their dishonest business practices.
  • warde333warde333 Member Posts: 7
    my email is eward@apexfoodgroup.com - my blog is included - tks
    #103 of 108 Re: Mazda replaced the engine in my 07 CX-7 [pbear9] by warde333 Jun 29, 2010 (10:10 am) Save | Reply
    Replying to: pbear9 (Sep 03, 2008 10:02 am)

    Hello - I have been with out my CX7 (08) for 9 days now. The Turbo has failed. I have honored the request for service history and they will allow the repair of my car on one condition. They are sending an independent claims adjuster to the dealer to visually check the oil line to the Turbo. If he sees excessive SLUDGE, they will not repair my car. What is exessive SLUDGE - I am assuming from all the forums that it can be whatever they want so as to facilitate their need to refuse repairing any MAZDA. I have 62500 miles currently - at 57K the timing tensioner was rattling and I had this repaired (took 9 days as they kept misdiagnosing the part) - at 60K the right front oil filled motor mount went out. I have asked to be called when the adjuster arrives for inspection. I will be there for his evaluation - camera and records in hand. Wish me luck and say a prayer as well. Anyone who has or is going to start a class action law suit...put me on the list. I am ready to join the team. tks
  • warde333warde333 Member Posts: 7
    Hello
    just an update - the independent adjuster reviewed the turbo oil plug that feeds the turbo. It was of course full of SLUDGE. The extended warranty company denied to cover the repairs. I have a call into Mazda corp...they say they will review and let me know if they can help.
    they say i should have been changing my oil at 5000mile intervals (review your owners manual schedule 2) they warranty contract is what i looked at and it states 7500mile intervals....who knows what you are supposed to do....i am probably going to have to repair the car at my cost....it seems we are all in the same boat.
    i hate this hopeless feeling...you trust in someone or something and they just leave you hung out to dry. Helpless in Harrisburg
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  • bcp1bcp1 Member Posts: 21
    This is very disturbing information. I am reading more and more negative things about Mazda and especially the CX-7. I use Pennzoil Platinum Full Synthetic 10w-30w. It is changed at 7,000miles or 6 months which ever comes first.

    We took a trip of 1800 miles in the northern ozarks from SW La. total gas milage overall was 23.6mpg. with a high of 26.4mpg and a low of 20.5mpg. We only have 15,000 miles on the CX-7, my wife's car and she prefers to drive our 2006 RTL/SR Honda Ridgeline.

    Hopefully we will continue not to have any problems, there are a lot of CX-7's in our area of 200,000+ people in SW La.
  • boogitybopboogitybop Member Posts: 21
    I would suggest that you increase your oil change to 3,000 miles and never go over that amount. you need to take the car to mazda and do no tell them you waited 7000 miles your first oil change. have them check your car out and document the procedure. I loved our cx 7 but this car has severe problems, mostly flaws in the design. my advice to you if you don't absolutely love the car is to trade it for a Ford. The Ford Edge is a better car and the company would never do this to their clientele. If you find yourself in a bad situation with the car please contact me and send me your e mail, we are combining our efforts to sue Mazda.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited July 2010
    Waste of time, money and oil in my opinion. I follow the owner's manual recommendation and I drive them forever.

    Oil Changes: Don't Throw Good Money and Oil Away. (Edmunds Daily)
  • re0876re0876 Member Posts: 3
    I encourage everyone who has these similar problems to file a claim at:

    http://www.nhtsa.gov/Vehicle+Safety/Recalls+&+Defects
  • re0876re0876 Member Posts: 3
    Here is the correct link:

    http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
  • gentemiogentemio Member Posts: 13
    Already did this almost a year ago, Aug/Sept when my wife's car was destroyed. Filed report but never any response
  • madmazda3madmazda3 Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2010
    I am sooo interested in the lawsuit Had a horrible experience and was a victim of the scam this week! only 32,000 miles..engine went out...had receipts and they claimed "sludge"!!! had been hearing a noise for awhile..brought to dealer in 11/09..they couldn't find anything..
    On my birthday, the car died suddenly late at night while traveling on road late at night. ..towed to dealer, who asked for my receipts in order for the warranty to pay...guess what, they said I had "sludge" and refused the claim...Now an ERNORMOUS bill they want me to pay out of pocket.. I want to join the lawsuit NOW!
  • hmwatthmwatt Member Posts: 2
    I am waiting on pins and needles. My cx-7 is with the dealer for a couple of weeks now and we are waiting to hear about the warranty coverage, if any. What kind of work did they do and how much, if you don't mind me asking. My dealer hasn't given me a price yet.
  • warde333warde333 Member Posts: 7
    I am having to have the Turbo replaced. the dealer quoted me $2159 + tax. Have they asked you for your maintenance records?
    If you did not get it serviced at the dealer regulary(7500 mile per the extended service contract company or 5000 mile per the owners manual and reccommended by Mazda customer service - due to my driving habits of higher than normal milage) you may have issues with the warranty coverages. I truely hope that you do not. I would definitly urge all owners of this vehicle to change the oil at 5K or less regularly and even then i question wether or not they will cover the repairs if they deem that sludge was visible upon inspection of the damaged part. Good Luck.
  • cleggettcleggett Member Posts: 2
    I am reading all of these comments and my story is pretty much spot on with everyone else. Anyone know if there is some sort of lawsuit in the works?
    I was quoted $8,000 to completely replace my engine...and I still owe $8,000 on the car. I am royally screwed. Below is my compaint I filed with the NHTSA if anyone is interested.

    I have a 2007 Mazda CX 7. I bought it new in February of 2007, so the car is only 3 ½ years old. Two major things have happened to my car within the past two months…one of which seriously put my safety in jeopardy.
    I will start with, two months ago, my air conditioner went out completely. The air compressor had to be replaced. Then, about a week ago as I was driving down interstate 75 (going about 70 mph), the acceleration on my car completely went out. Luckily I was able to get over the 5 lanes of traffic and pull the car off to the side. After I turned my car off, it never cranked again after that. Long story short, I took my car into Jim Ellis Mazda in Marietta, GA and they said there was internal damage to the engine and the engine would have to be replaced completely. They couldn’t even tell me what exactly went wrong or really diagnose the problem for me. They just said the engine needed to be replaced.
    The kicker to this story is, when I went in a couple months ago to get my air fixed, I asked them to take a look at the engine because I thought it sounded loud. The said it was completely fine and nothing was wrong with it. Well…two months later this happened.
    I have talked to Mazda Customer Service and they will offer NO assistance for fixing my car (which I have been quoted $8,000 to fix!). I was told that Mazda had reviewed my case and I was declined because there was sludge around the engine, which apparently gives then reason for no assistance. They said that is proof that my car is not maintenanced on a regular basis, however I have documented proof that it is maintenanced regularly. They just didn’t seem to care.
  • warde333warde333 Member Posts: 7
    I did want to followup with questions...My car expeirenced the same loss of power when the turbo failed also made high pitch whinning noise. Is it possible that when this caused by an internal engine failure that caused the turbo to go? I had this in for a timing belt issue just 5K miles before this. The dealer had it a week and kept saying they had diagnosed incorrectly. I have a copy of the dealers list of repairs. They list that they replaced the timing belt tensioner. In talking to the Mazda Extended Warranty customer service rep yesterday - He stated that his info in the computer states that the delaer reported fixing a serpantine belt and the billing they paid out to the dealer was not the same for parts or labor....Hummm. How can they reflect different info than what the dealer gave me as a receipt?? I are really worried they are going to fix the turbo only to see the engine is gone as well. Or the engine will go out when I drive it off the lot. Can anyone offer me any advice? tks
  • pbear10pbear10 Member Posts: 1
    Contact the Better Business Bureau about arbitration. That's what I did.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    The turbo itself is a very common, highly common, failure point/cause for turbocharged engines. Due to the need to detune the engine, 8-10:1 compression ratio rather than the 12:1 ratio common to DFI engines, the exhaust flow into the exhaust manifold and therefore to the turbine, DRIVE section of the turbocharger is unusually HOT. HOT as a result of the energy of combustion not being fully used up within the combustion chamber as a result of the LOW CR.

    This is also why you will NEVER see an Atkinson cycle engine with a turbocharger. The Atkinson cycle engine gets it extra, extreme, fuel efficiency via using more of, virtually ALL of the energy of combustion, in pushing the piston downward.

    That means that the turbine section runs at an EXTREMELY HIGH TEMPERATURE, generally in excess of 1500F...!!

    First, when you switch off the engine that HEAT does not majically go away. So it will quickly HEAT-SOAK the drive shaft, seals, bearings, and most importantly the lubricating oil "trapped" within the turbo upon engine shut down.

    It is for this reason that many more robust turbocharger designs will actually provide some type of "after engine shutdown" cooling method for the turbine area and bearings. An electric oil or water pump that runs for 10-15 minutes after engine shutdown depending on the cooling method.

    But the really BAD news comes when the SUPER-HEATED engine lubricating oil, used for lubricating AND COOLING of the turbo bearings, is trapped within the turbo after engine shutdown. It gets COOKED, LITERALLY..!

    Engine SLUDGE...? Now you know the source.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Your turbocharger failed due to a poor turbocharger cooling system design. That poor design, not so much the turbocharger failure of itself, may very well now result in accelerating an engine failure.

    The turbocharger very likely failed due to the "coking" of the turbocharger lubricating and cooling oil. It is entirely possible that the "coked" (sludged up) oil resulted in BLOCKED oil flow passages not only within the turbocharger but also somewhere within the engine itself.
  • berger98berger98 Member Posts: 4
    Mine just broke at 47,000 miles. They said a pin broke which caused the timing chain to break and ruin the engine and now I need a new one. The service guy at the dealership told me the mechanics said my engine was clean as well as my oil, but that I still need to provide maintenance records. I've already file a complaint in the hopes this is recalled for all other CX-7 owners regardless if they replace mine or not. I bought the car used about 10 months ago and only have records for the oil changes I have had done since then. I certainly hope this issue is brought to light. I will fight tooth and nail for this to be front page news if they don't do a recall.
  • nethingnething Member Posts: 2
    Ill add to the list of damaged timing chains and my 2007 CX7 story... Purchased new early 08. Within a week brought car back for road/engine noise. (I drive 50k miles a year I know what my car should sound like...) "No sir all the CX7s sound that way its the fuel injectors..." Well then there was the 17mpg all highway miles documented by the dealership. Then the VVT replacement, AC Compressor replacement, Fuel pump and neck replacement, second Fuel pump replacement. At this point its six months in and I am fed up. MNAO gets a letter demanding buyback. (I contacted the top lemon law attorney in Virginia, downloaded buyback template and certify mailed it..) Customer Mediations department steps in and drives two "specialtists" in to drive the car. Both give the same report; car drives within factory operating parameters. Again asked about the exessive noise: "Fuel injectors... they all do have it." We settle for an extended warranty (top that Mazda has) 100,000 bumper to bumper, paid rental, etc etc. as well as a check for a months payment. Had them put a clause in that the investigation would be reopened in the event of any additional major failure. Fast forward a year. AC compressor goes out for a second time... Replaced under warranty. Drive two months and the timing chain snaps, bending valves and causing other issues. Told the vehicle needs a new engine and that pictures are being sent to MNAO. I, being proactive, call and start asking questions. The engine would be replaced under our handy warranty and its being shipped. I explain that I have no faith in the vehicle any longer and no interest in continuing to deal with these issues and request the investigation be reopened for buyback or trade assistance... The Customer Service representative gets angry with me and says I need to hang up and call BBB. I explain that this isnt my first trip to the rodeo. I have him pull up are customer history and call his supervisor. Tone changed immediately. His supervisor had a new rep from Customer Mediations assigned within a few hours. I faxed over another buyback demand and they are now cutting a check for all our rental (warranty only covers 300...) and reviewing our request for either buyback or trade assistance. Vehicle has 54K on it btw. For all of those that havent fixed or replaced; call MNAO and ask to speak with a Customer Mediation Specialist. Tell them you need the fax number or address to report under Lemon Law. Send it certified mail. Talk with a local Lemon Law attorney. Mine was very nice and never charged a dime. He actually told me he wouldnt take my case initially because I was complaining too much about MPG which is hard to prove during a Lemon Law case. If we do not get the answers / resolution that we want I will be back in front of the attorney for breach of contract and I will be sure to let the board know as further proof of manfacturer defect. Good luck.
  • berger98berger98 Member Posts: 4
    I am very pleased to report that Mazda did call me back the same day and they did approve my claim under the PowerTrain Warranty. However, I am still concerned about the issues. I hope they look into these matters further. I will continue to monitor my vehicle.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Every one should be aware that turbocharged, boosted, engines do not run a an optimum level 99% of the time, simply cruising along at a relatively constant speed, insofar as FE is concerned.

    A N/A DFI engine could run with a 12:1 compression ratio on regular fuel, with intercooled boost <10:1 is more likely.
  • nethingnething Member Posts: 2
    BTW in case anyone was wondering; our 2007 CX-7 has always been filled with premium fuel since purchase and with full synthetic dealer oil changes.
  • nattiekinsnattiekins Member Posts: 29
    Yeah, just had the same happen to me today. 42k miles and the engine is trashed from the timing chain. I was told I was full of sludge as well.. Funny part about all this is everything I find with VVT issues etc. my VIN falls within all items I find. To make it even more interesting my AC condensor went out at 30k miles and when I got it back it was putting out black smoke. They then started telling my it was all my fault at 30k miles cause the oil was dirty. Funny part is I found a spec. describing the issue of the 2007 CX 7 putting out white/blue or black smoke and that they change the oil, run it 5 minutes and rechange the oil. This is to fix a "known" problem. BUT they still blamed that on my lack of maintenance. I am also reading in other posts that the turbo is not properly draining back all the oil so it is getting "cooked" in there thus creating my "lack of maintenance" sludge. I want any and all info anyone has to offer or is anyone is in the process of a class action contact me and I will forward you all my info.. I am pi$$ed!!
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  • ranger1500ranger1500 Member Posts: 4
    I bought my 07 CX7 GT in May of this year and am already about to trade it in to get out of it while i still can before my engine goes bad like it did for so many others i have read about on this web site. I started hearing the loud noise on startup and i have had to but 2 quarts of oil in it since i bought it. I found this website looking to see if anybody else with a cx7 had similar issues and was horrified to find out that my car is in the beginning stages of timing chain failure. It sounds to me like i will be better off to trade it in on something else while it still runs before i get stuck with it. Sounds like mazda's uniform answer for this issue is that it is the owners fault for lack of maintinence so if i take to them im screwed. I have researched alot of these forums and have concluded that their poor design for the oil to drain out of the turbo after the engine is shutoff causing the oil to cook and sludge up in the turbo is the cause of timing chain failure. I cant believe mazda will not recognize this flaw and is content to blame their customers, especially ones that just recently bought a used cx7. I was so excited to get my mazda but now i just want to get it out of my garage asap. Thank you all for posting your cx7 problems so i could find out before it was too late. Good luck everybody with your mazdas.
  • berger98berger98 Member Posts: 4
    My car problems started with a funny noise on startup. A week later, a pin busted which caused the timing chain to break and ruin the entire engine. Maybe even get your car towed to a dealership. I would not drive it.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    While the turbo cooking the engine oil is undoubtedly a problem for many I suspect the timing chain failures have a causative factor elsewhere.
  • nattiekinsnattiekins Member Posts: 29
    My problem lies with the fact the turbo is cooking the oil... It created the sludge that Mazda is sighting as lack of maintenance and calling that the cause of the timing chain breaking. Ironic part about all this is that my condensor went out last year and when we got the car back it was putting out black smoke.. Wouldn't you know it was from dirty oil and our fault it was smoking... This was after I was told drive the car into town which is over 30 miles away and it was still at min. in the 80's everyday... My car was smoking and the engine was so hot it was making the high pitched pinging noises a car thats about to overheat makes. I have all the directives from Mazda about the VVT, how to fix white, blue or black smoke (which is the same process they did when we complained) and some research stating someone took their car into a dealer and the tech stated when the condensor goes out it puts so much stress on the engine that it causes problems later. Imagine that huh??!!! Every single directive I find has my VIN number on it.. I just dont get it. but I am sure JAG, and a civilian atty, and the fact my husband works for a direct reporting unit to DOT.. Im sure we can figure something out..
  • 2bbb2bbb Member Posts: 2
    Same general story....oil pump on turbo quit at ~40K and pending proof of regular oil changes....the engine was replace under warranty. Bought the vehicle used at 18K and had oil changed 7 mos. prior or ~7K ago (not proud of that!). After reading all the stories, I was sure I'd be denied, but Mazda approved. 18 work days later and I had a new engine. As another person said, maybe it's more about the dealer (whom I did not buy my vehicle from)? Or, I just lucked out! Point is, keep detailed records, don't jump to conclusions about other's bad luck, and hopefully you have a great dealership.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    "..condensor went out.."

    Most of us know of the condensor being part of the A/C system, mounted in front of, just forward of the radiator, are you using the correct term...??
  • fonefixerfonefixer Member Posts: 247
    Just a note of caution, yes, we are reading about turbo failure, timing chain failure, air condtioning compressor failure, etc., but are the owners of these cars maintaining the vehicle? I have yet to read a single episode stating that the oil/ coolant/, power steering fluid /, transmission fluid/ belt condition/ are checked weekly. I drive an 07' cx-7 with 60,000 miles and check these things every time I fuel up. Not to say I haven't had any problems--timing chain/water pump at 55,000 have been the only major issue so far--but letting the oil or coolant drop below acceptable levels even once can cause severe damage to these cars, or any car, for that matter. Don't get me wrong, not accusing anyone of not maintaining their vehicle--but cars require a weekly maintenance check - and many people seem to think that these cars are maintenance free until the 3 or 5,ooo mile oil change!
  • lulusboutiquelulusboutique Member Posts: 16
    I have yet to read a single episode stating that the oil/ coolant/, power steering fluid /, transmission fluid/ belt condition/ are checked weekly. I drive an 07' cx-7 with 60,000 miles and check these things every time I fuel up.

    HUMMM YOU GOT A POINT WITH THESE CRAPPY A....CARS WE ARE DRIVING BIG NOTES AND BIG MECHANICAL BILLS WHAT A NIGHTMARE, SO IF IT IS CHECKED WEEKLY EVERYTHING IS OK DONT THINK SO.. :lemon:
  • fonefixerfonefixer Member Posts: 247
    I think besides you, I'm the only cx-7 driver who has had warranty work done on -7 engine w/o being accused of non maintenance or "sludge" in the engine due to non maintenance. Dealer replaced 2 timing chains (main/secondary/VVT actuator /water pump/ rear drive train seals/ at 55,000 miles w/o demanding any oil change documentation and completed the work in one day. After reading all these posts, it appears that you have to "buy" the service department instead of the sales department.
  • fonefixerfonefixer Member Posts: 247
    I bought my 2007 cx-7 new in October 2006--now has 60,000 miles. Only major problem has been timing chain/ water pump/ VVT actuator repacement.If I can get to 100,000 miles w/o any other breakdowns I will be satisfied with Mazda. I check the fluids weekly and have the vehicle serviced at 5,000 and 30,000 mile intervals. Going 100,000 miles with one timing chain/ water pump replacement isn't bad and I would call the cx-7 atleast average in reliability at that point. Let's see what the next 40,000 miles brings on?

    After reading all these posts......don't think I would buy a used turbo equipped car and with my last post, was just bringing up the issue of owner basic maintenance....not a cure all....but can prevent some problems.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    edited August 2010
    Going all the way back to the mid-fifties if I owned a vehicle that I even thought required weekly inspection of maintainance items I would get a quick divorce from same. Not even our pre-fifties farm tractors required that level of care/attention.

    The mules, yes, but daily.
  • fonefixerfonefixer Member Posts: 247
    Shows how (in my mind) how fragile and more or less unreliable the newer cars are. When it comes down to it....how many new car owners can drive 100,000 miles with no major breakdowns?
  • boogitybopboogitybop Member Posts: 21
    I think we all are taking care of this colossal piece of crap. I had my oil changed every 3000 to 3500 miles. I have two Ford trucks with over two hundred thousand miles, a Honda with 96,000 and a jacked up Jeep with 70,000 and this piece of crap couldn't make it to 70,000. Guess what? not an ounce of sludge in the engine, my mechanic said it was spotless. It was BAD ENGINEERING! Not the timing chain initially, the oil timing chain. As soon as it's fixed - it's gone. My advice to everyone.
  • nattiekinsnattiekins Member Posts: 29
    Im sorry for you that thinking checking a belt is going to make a condensor not break.. One has nothing to do with the other.. How does checking a belt or anything else you site cover Mazda releasing the 3 directives about VVT being bad, the smoking and how to fix it and about the turbo not draining back properly after being turned off.. Will checking my belts fix that too? Or would that be the windshield wiper fluid??
    I did change my oil and performed maintenance as stated by the maual.. I am not a mechanic and refuse to check a new car every week.. My husband is too busy defending our country so he cant check it..To me that is putting reliability in question.. We have a Toyota Tundra that has as many miles the Mazda and not a single problem.. We change the oil, normal maintenance and that is it!!.... Honda Pilot 90k miles on it at trade in.. Not a single issue.. Never checked the belts weekly and so on... Oh, but wait.. Honda did that the since enough to recall items when the thought they were an issue.. It was a first year model also.. NO problems...
  • fonefixerfonefixer Member Posts: 247
    Why would any one trade in a Honda Pilot w/ 90,000 miles and not one single problem? That vehicle should have years of trouble free life ahead of it. I keep cars for atleast 100 to 200,000 miles unless the mechanics/electrical are bad--- and if my cx-7 at 60,000 has anything major go wrong in the next 40,000 miles, well, that will be it for Mazda! Drove an Audi A6 for 6 years /100,000 miles--very poor engineering and would never drive Audi again!
  • ranger1500ranger1500 Member Posts: 4
    traded my cx7 in for a freaking 2011 kia sorento yesterday and i am so happy to finally be able to drive on regular unleaded again and not have to worry about all the cx7's problems. I got $15,000 from kia for my cx7 and i feel like i screwed them lol. Pretty sad when that im happier driving a 160hp kia than a 244hp turbocharged mazda. Good going mazda, you outdid yourselves on this one.
  • nattiekinsnattiekins Member Posts: 29
    Yeah, Im still asking myself the same question.. I know the new owners still are loving my old Pilot...LOL
    Must be cause of all the weekly checks I didn't do or all the non-maintenance I didn't perform..LOL
    You better believe that when the Mazda comes back I will be right back at Honda begging for forgiveness and buying another Pilot...
  • blin279blin279 Member Posts: 21
    edited August 2010
    "....how many new car owners can drive 100,000 miles with no major breakdowns? " by fonefixer.

    Hi fonefixer! You could be right. The key word here is "NOW" and it is missing in your statement! I would ask: ... how many new car owners NOW can drive 100,000
    miles w/o major breakdowns?
    Here is my story. I purchased my first Mazda 626 4 cyl 2.0 in 1995. In 2008 I sold that car (176,000 miles) to my co-worker. His son still drives that car! It has ~230,000 miles for the time being! I did not have any breakdowns AT ALL! Just regular maintenance. Yes, I did check that car weekly between scheduled maintenance just to make sure that everything was OK. But it was practically useless! Everything was fine every time I looked under the hood.
    IMHO, Mazda is a very reliable car! But CX-7 w/Turbo in particular is A NASTY JOKE! All that MTO (Mazda Turbo Ordeal) prevented me from buying a new CX-7 last year. However I am looking at CX-7 non turbo engine. It has been a year since that model was released. I did not find any major complaints so far (fingers crossed).
  • nattiekinsnattiekins Member Posts: 29
    Yes, The AC condensor..
  • nattiekinsnattiekins Member Posts: 29
    So my husband has been making some calls.. Spoke to the guy at NHTSA and he has heard of the complain before.. He is going to put an allert on any complaints that come in here after.. ANY problems you have had with your 2007 Mazda CX7 write them about it.. A/C, timing chains, turbos, transmissions etc. They are now watching for these so the process will happen quicker.. Takes just a few minutes to fill out the complaint online.. They can force Mazda to do recalls.. They told my husband they made Saturn do a recall for a premature timing belt breakage.. Web site is SAFERCAR.GOV and select on the top right file a complaint.. It is fine to comiserate on here but letting them know will get this fixed if they get enough complaints. Would hate for someone to get hurt when we could prevent it.
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