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What was odd was looking at local dealers websites when buying my car. I looked at the Accessory Catalog page (most dealers in southeast have the same page) I wanted alloy wheels. They had the alloy wheels listed for around $400.00 but they had the exact same wheels listed as the Extra Value Package listed below for $185. Of course I went with the $185.00 deal. I noticed that Toyota has since changed the website and are still offering the $185.00 deal but the pricier (rims) wheels are now a different brand and more expensive. http://nextgen.toyotaweb.org/inventory/accessoryAdvantage.aspx?dealerId=25§o- k=&seriesId=2&modelID=1385
Packages LE Extra Value Package -$185- * Includes 16-In 7-Spoke Alloy Wheels with P215/60R16
I called Michelin about the tires that come standard on my Camry trying to find out the warranty and there is none. I thought that was not fair. They told me to expect 15-20k out of them.
I am very happy with my 2010 Camry LE. What a comfortable ride.
I have found some of the tape-on and in-window-channel styles available, just curious if the latter style work well or to just go with the tape-on style.
I want to buy a car as I posted. All NW dealer said the SE 2010 Camry does not come with SKS installed and the interior has to be "Dark Charcoal"
Just wonder anyone can install Smart Key System (SKS) after market?
If I could not get the SKS on the SE Camry, I rather buy the LE model. It is one thousand less.
Thanks,
Bill
Personally the SE is the only Camry product I would own for it should retain it's value much better than any LE..The cushy ride of the LE gets pretty loose after a few miles,and Toy cranks out LEs like popcorn..
The SKS option can be had on an SE..sothat's should not be hard to find..I am on the hunt for a SE w/sunroof only, and will take floor mats..at their high price..Never owned a [non-permissible content removed] car,however the SE is my pick w/4 banger power..Prefer the V-6, however resale of the 6 is iffy..Gas prices will go out of sight in 2010 and the 4 banger will cruise at 80 and get 28mpgs..
I do have a 2002 XLE in the garage which I fed gas and maintence dollars on and it is near 77k miles, needing tires and brakes in spite of it's pristine condition, but it has aged well in Fla..suspension is sloppy so the handling is horrible..
Good luck on your Camry chase..The LE with it's plastic wheel covers is a real laugh combined with steel rims and you have farm tractor..Don't get the wheel upgrade on any LE,waste of money, improves looks, but the handling is still iffy..
Well, most people like it, so I guess that's a bit of an exaggeration.
The other difference between the 4 cylinder 2010 SE and the LE, base, XLE 4 cylinder is the engine tuning. The SE is tuned to give more horsepower.
The V6 MPG is very close to the I4. If you don't mind the extra up-front cost, I'd get the V6. I think it is only a few mpg different?
3 mpg. (19/28 - 23 combined for V6 ; 22/32 - 26 combined for the 4-cylinder auto)
If the 4-cylinder feels adequate, I'd say go for the extra mileage! Relatively cheap gas isn't here for the long haul I'd bet.
Thanks,
Chris
My email> I am very disappointed in trying to get information from Toyota. After calling the toll free CA. number (800-331-4331) and local dealers I get various answers for the same question. Does Toyota have a number that I can call and talk to someone that honestly knows what they are talking about or do all representatives just read out of the manual?
I just bought an 2010 Camry LE. I almost declined because I could not get my questions answered.
1. What motor oil to use? Calling the above number I have gotten 3 different answers. 0W-20,5W-20 and 5w-30. Why did I call 3 times? Because my closest dealer uses 5w-30 unless 0W-20 is requested.Another dealer did not have 0W-20. Calling the 800-331-4331 number and one time I was told if I don't use 0W-20 it will void the warranty and then same person talked with someone else and told me that that was incorrect, manual was incorrect and oil cap was incorrect. Why can't Toyota get the info correct for all parties involved? On one call I told rep that there is a Toyota Camry Forum and you can see the confusion on the forum> http://www.camryforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5346 People at the 800-331-4331 number told me they would post a official notice on the forum. I waited a week and called back to ask why there was nothing posted and this time I was told that Toyota does not post on forums. Meanwhile we are just as confused. I certainly don't want to spend $8.00 per qt of oil if not necessary. Finance officer where I bought the car from ''Quality Toyota'' said to use 0W-20.
2. I had to get a Camry with special radio or wait until end of October. I was told the car was on a boat coming from Japan. I questioned that the car was coming from Japan and was assured it was. Received car yesterday and another staff member told me it was made in Kentucky. So i ended up paying extra for a radio that I did not need.
I was curious about one feature 'Vacuum Fluorescent Display' and tried to find info online. I was worried about the radio because I read online that Fluorescent Display was very bright and you could not dim the radio light. Once again I called the 800-331-4331 number. Person told me that the radio could not be dimmed. I called local dealer to see if they had one in stock so I could look at night. They did. They also told me that the radio light turned various colors.(Still trying to discover that feature)Anyway I drove the 55 mile round trip drive and checked the radio out w/salesperson. First thing he did was dim the dashboard light which in turn dimmed the radio, so it was not a problem but it would of been nice not of had to of bought upgraded radio.
AM/FM CD player with integrated satellite radio [6], MP3/WMA playback capability, auxiliary audio jack, USB port with iPod® [7] connectivity, hands-free phone capability and music streaming via Bluetooth® [8] wireless technology, Vacuum Fluorescent Display, six speakers and in-glass antenna
I need to be able to get competent answers for future questions and or problems. Everyone is still up in the air on the proper oil to use. a typical link on the subject> http://www.smartsynthetics.com/articles/5w20oil.htm
My complaint is not about the dealership. I want competent answers to the oil question and future questions. Note; On this Better Assist You Q/A there is no 2010 CHOICE SO I HAD LEFT IT BLANK AND HAD TO RESEND BECAUSE OF TIMEOUT!!!! GOOD GRIEF!!
Toyota Reply> Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.
We appreciate your interest in the Camry and we are sorry for any confusion generated by our office.
Our position regarding the oil directly conforms with what you have available in the Owner's Manual. Your vehicle, per our records, is a four-cylinder model. The four-cylinder is supplied from the factory with synthetic 0W-20 oil, and this is our primary recommendation. However, 5W-20 petroleum-based (conventional) oil may be used as well. The 5W-30 petroleum-based oil is recommended for the six-cylinder engine, which does not apply to your situation.
If we may be of further assistance, please contact us via email or by calling 800-331-4331. We are available from 5 AM to 6 PM, Pacific Time, Monday through Friday, and from 7 AM to 4 PM Saturday.
We have documented your comments at our National Headquarters.
Robert Browning
Toyota Customer Experience
I have a 2010 LE V6 Camry.
On my Engine Block, as well as the manual, says to use 5W-30.
I have asked a service adviser what type of oil would a change need, see my post
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f1910a4/412#MSG412
I don't know what he means with regular, must be 5w20 or 5w30 non synthetic.
As for me, I would just stick to synthetic 0W20. May not try other brand than M1.
I also noticed that the engine runs smoother with Shell rather than Mobil. This is both 87 octane. With other Shell that has ethanol mixed in, it's different like Mobil.
That's just my experience.
I've had 1,300 miles on my new 2010 LE I4, purchased a month ago. On the first tank of gas (87 regular) I was getting ~29.5 mpg. Then I tried 89 (plus) and I've got ~32.4 mpg. The commute was 70% hgwy/30% city. >32 mpg is pretty much what I
had on 2007 Corolla LE.
Hopefully you did not stay at the same speed for this trip for long periods of time - owner's manual says to vary your speed for the first thousand (750?) miles.
I would like to know at what mileage or time is it best to have first oil change on 2010 Camry.Thanks for all inputs.
"Toyota issued the largest recall in company history, affecting 3.8 million vehicles dating back to 2004".
http://www.leftlanenews.com/a-closer-look-at-toyotas-sudden-acceleration-problem- - - .html
They designed a car with out a kill switch and a poorly designed accelerator pedal, and then blame it on the car owner which installs a floormat and not aware of the 3 second kill delay?
Not so "Smart"
Here are some additional information about Toyota's quality and engineering practices:
"Consumer groups are watching and If the allegations are correct that Toyota destroyed or withheld (electronic) data, it has the potential to reopen hundreds of Toyota rollover cases."
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2009-09-01-rollover-lawsuits-toyota_N.htm
"Consumers saddled with sludge-clogged Toyota engines may soon get some help from the Japanese auto giant under the terms of a class-action lawsuit settlement that covers roughly3.5 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles damaged by engine oil sludge."
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/01/toyota_sludge_settlement.html
:lemon:
jd
#1 is ....
#2 is ....
I had a car 10+ years ago (not a Toyota) that caused the accelerator pedal to get stuck down because the mats did not have hooks. This can happen to any car that uses cheap aftermarket floormats and no hooks. Why do all the makers have the hooks for mats? Should everyone recall them because people are not smart enough to use the hooks and/or follow directions? The dumbing-down of America!
The problem was the DEALER did not use the hooks, and they put a mat on top of another. Go after the dealer, not Toyota.
But, whatever, tell him to buy a Chevy. I see you posted this in the Corolla section too - I guess he was interested in a Corolla too?
OIL CHANGE
Good, GREAT idea that's been too long coming....
But frankly these new cars that do not use an ignition key probably do need a "kill switch"...!!
In the Youtube video, the plastic tube was not used.
Here's a more detailed procedure why the need for the tube during oil change.
I found this from another forum and please save the pdf in your hard drive.
Oil_Change
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An ignition key or (for Keyless ignition) a push button which will "immediately' shut off the Toyota's engine in case of a stuck accelerator pedal or malfunctioning computer controlled throttle.
This "Kill Switch" will let you kill your Toyota before it ............................ fill in the blank.
Toyota never ceases to amaze me on their crazy design practices, and the "Toyota can do no wrong" mentality.
That oil filter change video on that Toyota Camry is a comedy!
Most oil filters are 1 piece. This Toyota filter is in 4 pieces with a seperate filter paper, that's crazy!
Also, it has an acceleration pedal that is so poorly designed, that it sticks, if you do not have the "perfect" floor mat!
So, if the floor mat catches the accelerator pedal or computer controlled throttle
malfunctions, the keyless start/stop feature cannot be enabled in a "WIDE OPEN THROTTLE" until it is held down for 3 seconds.
In 3 seconds you can be at 45mph!
How many seconds would it take you to figure this "3 second feature" out if you're in panic mode and accelerating towards 100mph!?
Toyota designed a modern "Christine", not just one! .... 3.8 Million!
(Christine is a horror novel by Stephen King, published in 1983. It tells the story of a vintage automobile apparently possessed by supernatural forces.)
Seriously, people are getting killed in Toyota acceleration problem cars, it's a Toyota problem.
jd
Has happened to me twice in the past ~10 years. First was in a new Mazda Miata test drive. The dealer had installed a protective floor mat which slipped forward under the brake pedal but over the gas pedal. The second was just 2 or 3 years ago and again in a Mazda but this time in a rented minivan. The floor mats were not secured and the same thing happened, step on the brake and the car surges forward.
About the oil filter - a lot of the makers are going to this new design because you don't throw away nearly as much - just the actual filter and two small O-ring gaskets. I speak from experience - it is NOT hard to do, very easy, actually. It took about 10 minutes longer on my first time changing it. It will be even easier next time. More spinning.....
But it is frustrating to think that in the case in point shifting the transaxle into neutral did not (seemingly) work. Additionally with the new non-key ignition there really should be an automatic engine KILL with hard braking. 3 seconds of hard braking, maybe..??
"...it is not a problem.."
Yes, only a problem for those now dead.
You provided great photos and steps but I still am wondering if they were thinking about the average car owner when they came up with this new design? It will be pricey enough using the synthetic oil. Add labor and whoopie!
I know some of you have already gone to a mechanic for an oil change. What are they charging?
I would be scared of Jiffy Lube (our closed) or other oil change store to attempt this. Firestone stripped my out a past Honda oil pan of mine years ago.
I am not comfortable getting the o/c from those quick lube places especially JIFFY LUBE. The one near my place closed and an investigative news report on NBC forced Jiffy to close the branch. I was there once for a tranny service - gasket & fluid for a Previa and I noticed the oil guy finished in no time. I thought that was more complicated than an oil change. I was so doubtful of that and never came back to that place.
At this point in time from what I have read we have no evidence of the floor mat being the actual cause.
Fatal Santee Crash Prompts Largest Vehicle Recall in Toyota History
Very first paragraph.
No one has yet ruled out some sort of mechanical failure.