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Which is which in the 2002 Envoy? One of the bulbs has a sort of silver "diffuser" over it; is that the low beam? Would it be possible for someone like me to screw up and put a high beam bulb in the low beam socket and vice versa, or does the low beam bulb only fit in the low beam slot and the high beam bulb in the high beam slot
And which is the DRL--the high beam bulb or the low beam bulb? Thanks for info.
Oh one more question while I have your undivided attention. If I decide not to use the Silverstar and just go with some stock bulbs, what brand are the OEM bulbs and what retail places can I get them? Are they a GM brand?
Mine have lasted 9 years (90K miles) and still have no problem. I just don't want the Silverstar Ultra to overheat and melt any harness, etc. Has that been an issue? Maybe I should go with a lower price Sylvania and not the Ultra, or even the OEM/GM brand that has done well?
Assuming your fuses are OK, the likely culprit is Relay #46 in the under-hood fuse box. To test that hypothesis, people have suggested that when the lights go out, one swap the suspect #46 relay with the adjacent cooling fan relay #45 (they look alike and may be the same part). If the low beam lights come back on, then that is further proof. If you continued driving with the relays swapped, the "Check Engine" light might come on, but should go away once you switch them back and put a new Relay #46. I myself wouldn't keep driving with them switched since it's possible that the cooling fan would not operate properly with the bad relay; I would use the switch only for a test.
Relay #46 is called an HDM relay. HDM means "headlamp driver module". It's more expensive because it is a solid-state relay. The relay costs $35-45 from a dealer; may be harder to find at auto parts retail stores, but you might luck out at some Autozone, OReilly, etc.. According to my web searches, the GM part number is 15016745 , but you ought to verify that for yourself. It should be clearly marked on the relay.
If you want to see how common this problem is, do a Google search and input "hdm relay #46" without the quotes, or search on "relay 15016745" without the quotes. After reading those threads, makes me want to get one of the relays to carry in my Envoy as a spare...
Thanks.
The low beams have worked fine ever since but now I have a new problem. Driver side low beam went out. Bought two new bulbs to replace both. When I pulled out the bulb on the side that went out, the connector to the bulb was discolored. Removed the bulb and discovered the connector was internally half-fried. Checked the working bulb on the passenger side and everything looked fine.
There's enough wire to replace the connector...but, what caused it to have a meltdown?
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Probably not related but another electrical issue showed up this past winter. Remote lock/unlock would not work sporadically, mostly when it was really cold and/or wet. When the remote went out I also noticed the rear defroster and wiper didn't work either. Everything is working fine again in the warm weather but I need to fix the problem before next winter. Anyone know what it is?
Anyone have any experience, success or failure on using "after market" HID conversion kits?
From what it looks like I can either use a 9006 or a D2S kit, with out having the actual bulbs in hand it's hard to know if both have a 1 inch diameter flange mounting with o-ring seal.
Now for less than the cost of a single bulb/ballast I replaced high, low and fog lamps with hid units. Not sure what GM was thinking when they used HID by Philips, but what I installed works and the price was right. The only downside was I had to use a hot glue gun to mount the low beam bulb to the lens assy.
Now that I know better, if any of these fail, I'll replace with 55 watt parts as the 35 watt units are not as bright as I'd like, but still much better than the 13 year old oem parts were. btw: for the fog lamps I used 3500K bulbs, for low beam I used 6500K and 9000 K for high
My daughter's 05 Envoy lost low beams yesterday. Looking here I found the fix to replace relay #46. I swapped it with relay #45 and lights worked so off to the store for a new relay. Thanks.
I have a 2005 envoy. Recently when I turn the fog lights on the low beams turn off. I usually depend on the fog lights to see at night because the low beams do not help much. Read here about the #46 relay, bought it changed it but the situation is the same. Checked the fuses 6,3, 53 and the are ok. What else could it be?
I HAD the same problems as many of you do ... It is actually a pretty quick fix if it turns out to be the same as my issue. After installing aftermarket HID lights, my low beams would not come on. turns out it is a fuse, but it isn't the low beam headlight fuses ... so here is the issue I found.
Turns out ... fuse #53 is a 15 amp fuse that feeds into relay 46 which then feed into the low beam headlight fuses #3 and #6. It is fuse #53 that needs to be replaced. If that turns out to be okay try replacing your #46 relay, but #53 fuse should do it.
As far as the high beams ... its the same for those ... the #9 feeds relay #43 and then feeds into high beam fuses #2 and #5 ... it could be fuse #14 that feeds relay #43 but I am pretty sure it is #9 since it is a 15 amp fuse. so if your having high beam issues, be sure to check fuses #9 and #14.
I hope this helps many of you ... I was stumped until I pulled out a meter and tested all the fuses. If this works for you, please let us all know.