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Still though...personally I'd have a bit of a hand shake as I was diluting my (apprx 10 Imp gallon tank if memory serves?) with gas..
Nowadays you can usually start to see your mpg progressively fall like clockwork starting in Sept (ya they seem to start early on the 49th) and get lower and lower come Nov. By then they got us on full-on winter fuel.
When I last had my diesels, I used to buy up summer fuel in jerry cans and do my own mix depending on the wx we were having at the time. I musta been getting my ratios right cuz have never had a waxing issue yet..touch wood..
But nowadays, I think that most new tech uses fuel line heaters present even at filters, not only to assist cold wx starting, but as part of the normal emission and mpg expectation systems.
That's why bunker fuel (for ships) needs to be heated to even flow.
It's all relative.
Really should be looking at gallons per mile.
So you know why the Hubble Telescope had to be fixed (in space no less) right? Some engineer or groups of them did calc 's in metric and didn't translate to ENGRISH measures ! Or was that the other way around? :sick:
Looks like we are setting up those two ROGUE agents from Cincinatti for the fall? BAD VIDEO ! :P
Of course, the easier way to do that would be to look up the BTU difference between the two, but that would require a little research, and I'm not up for that right now..... :P
By contrast when we bought the new Sequoia it was basically handing us the keys and a handshake. That Toyota dealer is out of business. I found a flaw in the glass when we got home and Toyota would not fix it. Tailgate lifts never worked well and they would not replace. Good riddance to Toyota. My Wife's GD is loving it as a kid hauler. It is a big safe SUV and still under the 7 year warranty I bought. I wish her well with it.
The trip home from the dealer was hell. If I had to fight that kind of traffic every day going to work and coming home I would slit my Wrist. Or look for a job elsewhere. Oh, I guess that was what I did do because of stinking traffic in 1970.
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What'd you do, get on the 805 or something going home?
To add to your (flawless) inspection experiences, all three of my TDI's were also. I am glad to see that seems to be a goal VWA and dealers shoot for. It is nice to know the dealers all top off the fuel tank. Your salesman's 1.75 hour talk brought a smile to my face. Mine spoke like an auctioneer in full sales mode, for app the same time as yours spoke.(2 hours) I actually went back for the customer satisfaction first visit and asked to get the once over (30 days later) @ that time I got a salesman who hailed from where the Touareg was made, so I got another hour on the European slant to this model, and another 1.25 hrs on the functionality and 15 min Q& A. I take it you and your wife had a good experience ! ?
TMI: low fuel warning lamp/buzzer on the VW T TDI normally comes on a little after 23 gals/26.4 gal tank. So in effect, you had app 3.4 gals to find fuel. So how much D2 did it TAKE in the real world?
Googling the package it seems buyers from the AZ dealer this car came from were dinged from $1000 to $1700 for the Desert Protection package. Still don't know what it is or does.
The ex and I purchased a Passat in 2008. The dealer we purchased from didn't even get all of the film off of the paint. And one of the rear fenders was missing a brace and flopping in the wind. Luckily for us, the dealer we used for service was exemplary. With VW, it seems to vary quite a bit from dealer to dealer.
msg 10303 gagrice Salesman spent hour and 45 minutes showing us all the different gadgets including linking my wife's old Cell phone.
My most recent new car delivery was not as pleasant, and they did indeed hear about it when I filled out their survey.
Congratulations on your new ride! Many miles of happy motoroing.
That is a fact. The dealer closest to us would have had our business. But they tried to pull a fast one adding $999 to the lease deal they emailed me. And it was not that great of a deal before the bump up. I think waiting was our best move. We got exactly what we wanted and a dealer I feel will be there. Our salesman has only sold two Touaregs in 9 months on the job. But he knows a lot about it. He said the dealership sent them to school on each model.
He pulled out the heavy rubber mats and replaced with the carpeted ones. The retainers are really slick on the Touareg. No big hook in the floor to snag your shoe getting in and out. They also have the retainers on both sides of the carpet so it stays straight. On the Sequoia it was always working its way around with the single hook in the floor. Probably an after thought when people were getting the floor mats jammed into the accelerator. If I trade in 3 years, I will have those very nice rubber mats to put back in.
On the other hand, if one has a good diesel, the same applies. I have an 03 Jetta TDI with 180,000 miles that STILL can nail 44 to 62 mpg (50 average) and I am shooting at the least for 400,000 miles before a new clutch job.
That's one excuse I use to justify driving my 14 year old van.
:P
Beautiful rig.
The car, not the hair (my beard is the same color as yours lol).
You're going to drive us crazy with the mpg reports; we'll have to rely on the computer read-out since it'll be three months before you fill up again.
To get that with something as large as the T-Reg is pretty impressive.
If I ever come into a large sum of money that I could spend on transportation, I'd certainly consider it. Sounds like a great long distance tourer - a tank and a half to get from Denver to LA.
It looks good, although it looks like it has the big wheels and consequently low(er) profile rubber...probably part of the Lux Pkg Love the style of wheels though
I think you will exceed Ruking's mileage by a fair bit, since I don't think you plan to do as many mountains or run as loaded as he does..altho that is yet another joy with easily exploited torque...loads don't make a huge difference. So opposite of gas jobs. That 25.9 on 1st
tankcheck, is very impressive for a brand new tight rig."Once the whole emissions thing has been overcome, the typical sticking point for diesels in the U.S. is always cost. Diesel engines are expensive, so you pay up front for whatever efficiency you gain on the back end.
In the case of the GTD, Volkswagen officials told us to expect a starting price similar to that of the GTI. They also told us the GTD could arrive with a highway rating approaching 40 mpg."
For the good stuff that I didn't cherry pick out, check out the review:
2015 Volkswagen Golf GTD First Drive
I would have rather had the 18" that comes on the sport models. I wanted the luxury features. I do like the wheels as they are simple and easy to clean. I don't look forward to replacing the tires. They are Goodyear Eagle LS2 265/50R 19" 110H. I have never been a Goodyear fan. Tire rack lists them at $293 each. They were made in Germany. I can buy higher rated Pirelli tires for less.
Probably of lesser priority, but equally important are to ID any deficiencies for the next service or special warranty visits to the dealer. Hopefully these will be NONE to few.
But on the other hand, the warranty periods ARE the best time for stuff to crap out and get fixed. (new customer (30 days), 12 mo 12,000 miles pretty much fix anything (except customer abuse) , 3 year/36,000 miles, 10 year/100,000 A/T, 12 year rust through, etc.
This is true if you see yourselves keeping it beyond so called "normal mileages" and time frames.
As this is going on, I would also go for a slightly to moderately aggressive engine break in. Practical terms , nte 75% of redline (redline being 5,100 rpm or: 3,825 rpm. ) The use of the so called "shiftable" gate is very helpful here (gears 8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) So, do not be afraid to take rpm to 3,825 on the UP SHIFT and probably equally importantly on the DOWNSHIFT. Again, NTE 55 to 65 mph (500 miles to 1,000 miles). By 5,000 miles and certainly you should experience slight increases to MPG (1 to 3 mpg like for like conditions)
Here is a link to some of the why's and how's Things To Do For The Life Of A Diesel Engine
So here is to HAPPY new car break in !!
I did buy an extended warranty with $0 co-pay. It is 4 years 48k miles. It includes belts, alignment, service and one complete brake job. That was an additional $975. That is the only extra I bought from the factory warranty. My idea is to trade after 3 years. Whenever there is another killer deal.
I am lovin' the Touareg entertainment system. It has slots forCD/DVD & 2 SD cards along with 20 GB of HD for MP3 music. It seems to read my 16 & 32 GB SD cards fine. It has a great interface for all my ripped CDs. I used to carry copies of my original CDs. I never use the originals except for ripping and making backup copies. It has several ways to list by artist, album favorites etc. Copying from the SD cards to the HD is a snap. After we had a CD jam in the Sequoia NAV we did not use it after it was replaced. This is great plus SiriusXM if we decide to continue the service. SiriusXM traffic is paid for 4 years. So far have not found anything they left out.
I can understand why you like the sound system. :shades: It is VERY cool! When my kids found out the 2012 Touareg could run the MP3, they got me one (BD) . I am sure they can run their IPad and IPhone music through it like they do at my house, but right now that is beyond my pay grade. Each also could watch separate and several full length movies on a 3 hour trip to Tahoe, CA. It is hard to beat a Sirius subscription for 4 years, included in the price. The rear facing console has a low watt A/C plug for charging. L's G !
OOOO ! I am glad you mentioned NO cruise control (greater audience) , I just assumed you knew that, seemed redundant to mention it.
Does the manual even recommend a break-in? Lots of manufacturers don't any more.
HDD instead of a SSD? They cheaped out eh?
It probably needs to be said that motorcycles really have much higher red lines (Ducati ST3 say NTE 9,500 rpm). This is not to mention that there are even far less diesel motorcycles than diesel cars percentage wise.
But probably the importance of the whole gasser vs diesel difference is really at work.
In addition, for TDI's 2,100 rpm (/5,100 prm= 41% of red line) in 8th speed and or D converts to 81 mph. (this happens to be an optimized RPM for all systems: best for designed temp operation, max torque, turbo operations - vanes movement, DPF optimum consumption, less regens, A/C, Heat efficiencies, mpg, etc., etc.) In AZ , where almost all AHP cruisers use radar guns, that just might warrant an undue customer service call ! ?
I had no idea. Thought it was probably around $500 for a brake job and $150 for alignment. So the extra year and 12k miles under warranty seemed like a decent deal for $975. It was $1700 until I said, "I don't think so". Overall no real pressure on the add-ons like GM, Toyota and Nissan.
HDD instead of a SSD? They cheaped out eh?
This is a good point. Though with two SD slots I can add a couple 32 GB cards and have more than enough. I loaded 100s of tracks and used less than a quarter of the available HD. I think the CD will be a medium of the past in a couple years. What will I do with the 100s of blank CDs from my Karaoke recording days?
Otherwise - maybe skeet shooting?
Don't keep me in suspense; what, if anything does your manual say about breaking in your new rig?
(That's one irritating thing about VW - they, and Audi and Porsche, don't publish manuals online so it's hard to look stuff up if you don't have a hard copy. Well, Isuzu doesn't either, but they are gone. The idiots at Suzuki charge to download one, which is enough to make me say forget looking at the SX4. Saab and Saturn manuals are still around and still free to download. Yeah, that's a peeve of mine.)
Oh all right I will look:
Says break in engine gently for the first 1000 miles. Do not exceed 2/3rds throttle. Do not go too slow either. About what ruking and others advised. Page 474 of the manual. about a paragraph long.
I read 'em before I buy a new car (of course the one back in '98 was only 200 pages long, tops). Read the Prius V manual a few months ago (another painful one - free download, but it's chapter by chapter).
Don't forget to read the separate nav manual. That's probably only 150 pages. :shades:
Well, update is that in 2006 I took Rukings' advice and bought a diesel 2002 VW Jetta TDI..... absolutely fabulous. Ran 100 % biodiesel on it, did many maintenance and modifications myself.
but last year, June 2012 , I was going 75 mph on I 5 near Bakersfield, and the car tire treads separated, fishtailed, and went into a rollover and slid over 100 feet into farmfields.... car was completely and utterly totalled, :sick: but I came out alive, which surprised the fellow good samaritans who stopped, the CHP officers, and tow truck drivers.
Sold the Cayenne turbo. Bought another diesel 2012 Jetta TDI, which is nicer but cannot take more than 5% biodiesel. ( arguable).
Sold the 2004 Corvette Z06 twin turbo with 1143 horsepower.
Luv the diesels............. Thanks rukes.
2009 Jetta TDI on this side. It is running really nicely. Strictly from a constant improvement point of view, I think the later (like yours) DEF systems are better than the 09 dedicated (non DEF) emissions system.
I hope to see you at the next NorCA GTG !
It is part of the main manual, along with all the infotainment. So far it is all pretty intuitive. Took a bit to find the altitude indicator.
There are two small manuals on using your cell phone and syncing the two. Then a warranty and maintenance manual. I a nice case with magnetic flap. So far everything is first class. Could be the fact it is their halo vehicle.
I am surprised you did not trade the Cayenne for either a Touareg or Cayenne TDI.
In honor of Tidester, I have to point out that the gizmo should be called an elevation indicator.
But knowing California, maybe you meant attitude indicator and the spell checker didn't catch it.
That said, does it mean that a GPS location is only 2 dimensional?
The whole sat thing boggles my mind to this day. You set up a sat dish on the edge of the house and 10 years later it hasn't faltered with its lock on that sat. (except for atmospheric conditions or a jet or bird flying by of course) What makes this amazing is when you are adjusting it to find the sat during install, the slightest torque on the dish one way or the other with your pinky finger is all it takes to lose the sat.