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Pontiac G8 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • cward24cward24 Member Posts: 3
    I bought the G8 GT which is the V8 version. Yes the V8 does cost more to buy. The MPG may not be as bad with the Active Fuel Management (Displacement on Demand). I average about 26 MPG on the highway so far (with the cruse control on). The engine itself is built along side the Vortec 6.0 that is used in the Silverado in the same factory in Mexico. The difference is the truck engine is cast iron that the G8 GT is engine is aluminum. The oil pan and the exhaust manifolds are unique to the G8 GT. What is not generic truck parts (that would not fit) appears to be taken from the Corvette. I would not be to terribly concerned with finding parts. The only possible lead time for parts I would be concerned with after Pontiac is officially dead is body parts for the car if you need them but overall should not be hard to find. My insurance did go up from my VW Passat that I traded in by $2.17 per month. To me it was worth it price.
  • whoosierdaddywhoosierdaddy Member Posts: 76
    You will find discussions--often spirited--of V6 vs. V8 and other topics at websites devoted to the Pontiac G8, such as www.G8board.com. The MPG that V8 owners report seems to vary widely depending on driving style and percent of highway driving (where VCM can kick in). A buddy of mine has owned a G8-GT (V8) for a year. He drives aggressively and loves to mash the pedal because that’s what puts a smile on his face. He says he averages 13-point-something MPG in mostly city/suburban driving, doing the math at the gas pump. With 3500 miles on my V6, I’m averaging 19+ in mixed city/suburban/highway conditions. I don’t think about saving gas, I just drive. The bottom line is this: If you crave acceleration that slams you back in the seat, get the V8. While the V6 is no slouch, it makes more noise than go when you punch it. If you just want a smooth ride and tight handling in a car that looks good, at a very reasonable price, you will be more than satisfied with the V6. Dealers in Indianapolis are now advertising the G8 at $8100 off MSRP after rebates & discounts.
  • pumpkinfishpumpkinfish Member Posts: 61
    Local dealer sent me mail advertising one of their "invited customers only" sales, with cars "thousands below invoice" and "0% financing". I am going to go and see what deals I can get on the G8 GT and the GXP. My hopes are low on the GXP since they only have one. They have about 10 GT's (all according to their website). Is the invoice price on Edmunds very accurate? If so, they are only marked up from invoice to MSRP ~$1000? Doesn't seem right.
  • TwoGoldFishTwoGoldFish Member Posts: 14
    What dealer had the G8(GT,GXP?) for $8100 off? Dealers here in Md. are not doing anything more than the $3k . Thanks!
  • whoosierdaddywhoosierdaddy Member Posts: 76
    Hare Pontiac-Buick-GMC ran the ad in the Indianapolis Star several days. I bought my G8 at Andy Mohr B-P-GMC.
  • camydogcamydog Member Posts: 64
    Hi all,

    I have not been able to find the GM card rebate for an '09 G8 GT on the GM web site. Can anyone help out?

    Would you send a link to the site, or just let me know what the current allowance is? I received a top-off note in the mail this week that allows up to $2K.

    Thanks.
  • vinnynyvinnyny Member Posts: 764
    It's normally just $1k. I got the mailer that allows up to $5k.
  • zq8zq8 Member Posts: 82
    I got the one that said I can use ALL of my card money.
  • vinnynyvinnyny Member Posts: 764
    I was hoping to get one like that--I have over $12k on the card.
  • murphy4murphy4 Member Posts: 92
    i want a G8 GT....not picky about color etc but want best low price and lowest apr. GM likes to say you can't have both but that is [non-permissible content removed].............they aren't moving these cars.

    feedback please!!!!!
  • pafromflpafromfl Member Posts: 47
    they aren't moving these cars.

    They aren't getting any more cars either so prices seem to be creeping up. The sales volume in May was healthy, so dealers may be gambling that demand will eventually exceed supply. The only thing that would depress G8 prices is if GM announced that the G8 will be rebadged as a Chevy or Buick in the future. So far GM claims the G8 is gone from the USA forever.
  • murphy4murphy4 Member Posts: 92
    rebadge it a Chevy Impala SS....................that car is to good for them to let it die.
  • whoosierdaddywhoosierdaddy Member Posts: 76
    GM considering G8 for core brand?
    06/08/2009 By Drew Johnson, LeftlaneNews
    The Pontiac brand will cease to exist after next year, but one of the brand’s brightest stars could live on in one of General Motors’s remaining brands. GM CEO Fritz Henderson has stated that no Pontiac model will live on in the ‘new’ General Motors, but one GM exec has hinted there might be a future for the G8 sedan.
    Tom Stephens, General Motors’ vice chairman of global product development, said the G8’s fate may not be completed sealed. “I know there’s still discussions on it,” he said. Stephens wasn’t overly optimistic the G8 would find a home in the Chevrolet lineup as the next-generation Impala SS – saying “Chevrolet already has several sedans” – but didn’t rule out a version of the G8 for the Buick lineup. Sales of the G8 have actually picked up in recent months – despite a lack of advertising and the winding down of the Pontiac brand – so there is definitely potential for the platform.
  • vinnynyvinnyny Member Posts: 764
    Isn't a version of the G8 already sold in other markets as the Impala or Caprice? Other than the Holden from which it was spawned, I thought there was a version sold in the middle east as a Chevy.
  • whoosierdaddywhoosierdaddy Member Posts: 76
    $18,900 is the advertised price for a base '09 G8 at Ed Martin Pontiac-GMC in Indianapolis. There is an asterisk after the price that says see dealer for details.

    I think that if the only thing that moves G8's is a low price then you better get one while you can because they're not coming back in any form. GM wants cars that sell at a big profit, that's why they kept Buick vs Pontiac. How do the 2 owners of GM feel? The UAW is no fan of the G8 because it's made in Australia not here, and the Government is no fan for that reason plus the MPG is not that great.
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Member Posts: 1,724
    Mileage could have been better... other company's seem to come up with a larger car like this and have decent mileage. I do know their intent for the car, bad timing?
  • camydogcamydog Member Posts: 64
    G8 GT, Roof, White Hot, Prem. Package, XM and Blue Tooth, 18" (no sports package) with leather.

    $27K out the door. MSRP 34,655.

    1500 Rebate
    500 Dealer Cash
    2500 loyalty
    2000 GM card
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Member Posts: 1,724
    That is a great price, though it is not worth near that now out on the open market. :(

    If you are going to keep it for many years, then buying new is a good idea.
    Though, real world prices are not lined up with its MSRP, or even the sale price.

    I bet the white looks very nice!
  • murphy4murphy4 Member Posts: 92
    how about financing? Did they offer a low rate as well?
  • camydogcamydog Member Posts: 64
    No financing through the dealer. I used my credit union and 4.49. Could have gotten 4.29 if I wanted a bigger monthly payment, 4 vs 5 year financing.

    I love it when someone says, Great Price, then comes back and says the car isn't worth that much on the open market. It's worth that much to me, so that's what I paid and bought the EXACT car I wanted.

    BVDJ84, do you drive a Camry?
  • mgdimmgdim Member Posts: 1
    i am about to do a similar deal but with the employee discount. Are you concerned about getting parts 3 or 4 years from now? That is the only thing holding me back. What is GM doing with Holden?
  • quietproquietpro Member Posts: 702
    I have heard or read nothing about Holden going away. So, I don't believe replacement parts are going to be a problem.

    I'm currently looking at the G8 GT myself and have been offered a pretty good deal, at least by normal standards. It seems there are two schools of thought, those who believe it's a bad idea to by a dying breed and those who feel this is the last chance for something great. I'm leaning more toward the latter. Whether or not this car holds significant value into the future, I'm looking at higher CAFE standards and the auto industry in general as leading to more "sensible" cars...meaning much more tame as far as performance is concerned.

    I'm struggling over the nit-picky things, e.g., cruise control functionality, lack of Homelink, lack of fold down rear seats, lack of auto-dimming mirror, etc. Of course, I don't like spending such a large amount of money, regardless, on something I don't HAVE to have.

    I've been offered a Black/Black leather GT with Premium Pack and Sport Pack for $29,505 out the door and I've been told (but not in writing) that I can apply my GM card to that for a final of $26,505.

    Has anyone received anything close to this? Anyone care to comment on whether or not this is a good deal? Please give me more than a simple yes or no. I'm looking for comparisons...I'm getting this offer in Charleston, SC. Thanks!
  • vinnynyvinnyny Member Posts: 764
    My local dealer is offering similarly equipped cars for 26,995 plus TTL. One of the key factors is that the MSRPs have jumped more than $2k so that may affect the deal you're offered. As to the GM Card cash, you should have received a private offer that allows you to spend up to a specified amont. Mine allowed me $5k on all Pontiacs and Saturns. If you didn't get this offer, go to your GM card account under "manage my earnings" and you should be able to get the code there.
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    Vinny as usual you are the man and have the best GM card action! I've got the roundup to $3k offered for many GM-vehicles but will seek that $5K code you mentioned, thanks!

    quietpro, what are you referring to about the cruise control? the cruise control on my 6-spd GTO is awesome. After 4 years of ownership, I remain hugely impressed with my 05 holden/pontiac - but annoyed that the nearest pedders-authorized-suspension-shop is hundreds of mile from here, now that my radius-rod/bushings/something-near-there is surely trashed.
    in nearby G8 news, a pal of mine just traded is 04 GTO for a white 6-spd G8-GXP, the day after GM announced the demise of Pontiac...
    "I like this ship, it's exciting!"
  • vinnynyvinnyny Member Posts: 764
    The GM Card $5k plan only lets you apply "Up to $5,000" which is different than the top off in that you must actually have $5K in you account to use it. I had over $12k piled up, so I got to use $5k. I'm hoping that I get another offer in the mail so that I can go back and buy another car. I bought my daughter a loaded Astra yesterday for less than $10k out the door. If I get to use the offer again, that will probably go to a G8 or Corvette.
  • saulstersaulster Member Posts: 48
    QP,

    Do NOT worry about homelink or auto dimmng mirror. I had the same problem with my 09 Jetta TDI, just not offered with the vehicle and VW parts quite silly expensive ( auto dimming, no homelink, parts alone $330! ).

    Google "Mito" for the OEM supplier of the day / night and homelink mirrors. I didn't need homelink, got the auto dimming mirror for about $90. I recall the homelink auto dimming was about $260 or thereabouts. They even have OnStar mirrors with auto dimming and homelink for vehicles factory equipped with OnStar to start with ( which I don't believe the G8 has ).

    A competent stereo installer should be able to handle the auto dimming homelink mirror as well. The only "hard" part is running power to it. If you are doing this, I suggest considering a bluetooth hands free install at the same time. If you go with something like Blue Connect, which builds in to your headliner about the driver ( I like this and have it in both of my cars, the voice recognition and command is worthwhile IMHO ), the installer can run power once and service both devices.

    Good luck with your G8. If I get one, I am holding out later for a GXP 6 speed manual, if if if.
  • quietproquietpro Member Posts: 702
    Nothing "wrong" with the cruise, just the way the controls are configured. I prefer them on the steering wheel and I REALLY love that mine has a cancel that allows me to cancel cruise without tapping the brake or turning off the cruise altogether. I don't believe that's an option on the G8. It's nit-picky, as I stated, but one of those nice little features that endeared me to GM back in '02 when I bought my first one. If I'm wrong, please let me know. I'm almost certain that I'll be buying one and all the little tips to get me better acquainted to the Aussie way will be greatly appreciated. :)
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    thanks for the gmcard info Vinny, & Go Red Sox! :shades:

    quietpro, I hear you about the steering wheel cruise control - that can be nice too.
    fwiw, on my GTO, when cruise is enabled, one tap on end of stalk will make it inactive/remembering-set-speed. two taps turns it off.
  • quietproquietpro Member Posts: 702
    elias,
    Thanks for the tip. I'll try it out and see if the same command works on the G8. That will be good to know. :)
  • quietproquietpro Member Posts: 702
    Bingo! That works on the G8 as well. Thanks again for the tip. I'll go through the owners manual (when I finally get it) and see what else is tucked away inside the G8. :)
  • camydogcamydog Member Posts: 64
    I read the cruise control section in the owner's manual and it doesn't get into enough detail regarding the coast feature/memory. It does work the way elias said. Nice feature.

    Love the car. I'm just over 500 miles, still in break-in period. The torque curve from the 6 ltr. is great. The car is also fun to put through the twisties here in W.V.

    Anyone notice that the OEM Good Year's are made in China?
  • shayes99shayes99 Member Posts: 1
    Just picked up a black GT with Sport and Premium packages (no sunroof) on Saturday.

    $34,155 MSRP
    $32,500 Negotiated price
    -$4500 Incentives ($2500 loyalty, $1500 cash allowance, $500 dealer cash)
    -$5000 GM Dollars (You need to have earned them)

    $23,000 +tax, title, & reg.
  • vinnynyvinnyny Member Posts: 764
    Sweet deal! I used my $5k GM Card cash to buy a Saturn Astra for my daughter, but if they send me another $5k offer, that's going for a G8...
  • eliaselias Member Posts: 2,209
    Cool, and you are most welcome, quiet professional! I'm glad that the cruise control works as suavely on the G8 as it does on GTO...

    And nice buy, S "agent 99" Hayes !
    You & our favorite NY-Barbarino with the >$3500 GM cards are both heroic.
    Personally I'm hoping to find a way to use my $2K GM card rebate to buy the used geo-metro from the free-credit-report-dot-com guy, along with the wear-a-pirate-hat-roundup if I'm really lucky.

    ps - For some enginerdly and Holden-o-rific ways to sidetrack yourself from watching the road, maybe check out the diagnostic mode of the dashboard
    by starting the car while holding down the "mode" & "set" buttons.
    Then you can cycle through the diag info by hitting "set" repeatedly.
    One of the cool diag modes on GTO shows the true speed: note how the
    big-digits digital-readout reads ~2% faster than actual speed, as does the analog speedo pointer.
  • whoosierdaddywhoosierdaddy Member Posts: 76
    My Goodyears are made in Oklahoma (huh?), per the code letters.

    After 4 months and 5500 miles still lovin' my G8, although probably a little less if gas prices go way up again.
  • quietproquietpro Member Posts: 702
    Possibly a different version of the owner's manual? I read mine last night, coincidentally, and it mentions the "tap" off feature that will allow resume.

    Another coincidence...I was driving my "Sport Red" G8 GT through the WV twisties yesterday. I used my Verizon phone VNav to show me the way to a casino in Charleston and, as has happened before, it led me to the middle of nowhere. No worries (other than for the REALLY strange folks I passed on the street) because I used the OnStar nav to rescue me. It was all good because I wanted to take the road less traveled and this car LOVES it.

    Happy ending...I came out a winner at the casino. It was my birthday, after all. :)
  • camydogcamydog Member Posts: 64
    Quietpro,
    Glad you were in Charleston and not an hour southwest of there. We may never have seen you again!

    Happy Birthday.
  • call1800bobcall1800bob Member Posts: 1
    Silver G8 GT w/Premium and Sport Packages....$27,000 cash price...less the $1350 I had in GM points...so the check I wrote was actually for $25,650...Had 8 miles on it when I picked it up. St. Louis Metro Area.
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  • renter2renter2 Member Posts: 1
    purchased 9-2008 Santa Barbara,Ca. msrp $34200 premium & sport pkg, no sun roof.Less dealer discounts & $3500 in GM card points was $28500 including tax & lic. Plus I purchased a original equipment 19 in rim & tire for about $550. Fits perfectly into spare tire well.
  • robertkaleal1robertkaleal1 Member Posts: 43
    Hey-

    Sorry to re-awaken a dead forum, but I was considering leasing a G8. I know what the selling price will be (based on discussions with dealer), they just haven't given me the lease price yet, and I figured I should go in prepared. Does anyone know the MF, residual % (2009 G8 sedan - 6 cyl, 15K per year), etc. that I could use to calculate a price.

    Looking at a sales price of 23,500 (31ish MSRP). The reason I might be leaning towards leasing this car is that I don't know what the market will be like in 3 yrs, and depending on the price, I would rather lock in the loss I am willing to pay vs. be surprised by it later.

    Thanks,

    RJ
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Member Posts: 1,724
    Apparently, my dealer has stated that GM is still leasing, however there is a catch.
    The interest on the leasing program is very high. They actually stated it could be as much or more than just getting a loan out on the car. That would be a bad idea for a car that you do not own. Sure, you can turn it back in, but you will be paying more on the car and have nothing to show for it. At least with a loan, you'll be paying towards the principal. A lot of wasted money to go right to interest alone.

    Now this was back in May, I am not sure what has changed since then, probably not much.
  • whoosierdaddywhoosierdaddy Member Posts: 76
    The only leases that make sense are the "factory-subvented" ones, and there are none of those on Pontiacs right now. Don't hold your breath waiting.
  • robertkaleal1robertkaleal1 Member Posts: 43
    Alright, returned from dealer and they said the same thing bvdj84 said: 16-18% lease rates currently. So that option was out. Selling price was still $23,251, but financially it still isn't a smart buy. A value three to five years into the future wasn't looking so great before pontiac's planned shut-down, but with the shut down, I'm estimating it will only be lower. I really liked the car, I just cannot justify the financials on it.

    If you're willing to buy and take it on the back end on this vehicle, they have some amazing deals right now. I just cannot justify the extra few thousand this would end up costing over some of my other options.
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  • bvdj84bvdj84 Member Posts: 1,724
    Perhaps you could find another car with just as much fun! Look into a VW with a quick engine, or a new mazda. Their values would hold stronger too.

    If you can pull the trigger on a G8 with a very good sale price, then do it. If not, walk away and look for another car.
  • jacka1jacka1 Member Posts: 4
    What is a "GM special event vehicle." Is there any reason I should avoid buying one?

    A dealer has a G8 GT that's a GM special event vehicle for sale.

    Thanks.
  • vinnynyvinnyny Member Posts: 764
    "GM special event vehicle" usually means that the vehicle was used by a VIP at a golf tournament, race, or some other event. The cars usually have a few hundred miles and have never been titled.
  • jacka1jacka1 Member Posts: 4
    Thanks for the reply. I bought it w/380 miles on it and am very satisfied.
  • vinnynyvinnyny Member Posts: 764
    They're generally very good deals for people lucky enough to find them. I hope you did well.
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