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1. mpg. I got near 40 mpg on the highway to LA from Phoenix this week on the accord, I would have been hard pressed to beat 25 on my 2010 4.6 genesis.
2. folding rear seat. I had to change with my gf honda civic every time I wanted to carry anything long. Ridiculous that the gennie seat doesn't fold down.
3. feel of the drive. the honda just feels tighter, while the gennie performed admirably, it floated way too much on bumps, and felt too much like a big car... just not my cup o tea. The new accord drives more or less like a smaller car: tighter, feels more responsive.
4. tech. the honda KILLS the genesis in tech. my phone pandora auto streams to the cars audio. the doors unlock when i reach for them, ditto the trunk. This is especially handy as yo uapproach the car with a big load of groceries in your hand, or your dog on a lease. the 3 views on backup camera, especially the wide view are a blessing when backing out of a space next to an SUV. collision avoidance alarm is a nice plus too. To me, the genesis radar guided cruise control needed too much monitoring to really use much, it would hit the breaks when I would have just let the car cutting in front of me pull away...
5. I was going to need tires, and 19's were going to be pricey.
6. 200 less to insure a year for the new honda.
7. possible serious value drop when the newer model comes out later this year...
what I will miss?
1. cooled driver seat.
2. Nav. the map was nice to look at, though address entry couldn't have sucked worse if they tried. I had quit using it to look up addresses or stores, instead using my google phone which actually worked. but it was handy to see upcoming steet names.
3. the car looked awesone. everybody thought it was a bently, since i had it badged.
I also choose the 2013 Accord exl v-6 over the genesis for alot of reasons you mentioned.
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i bought the 13 accord exl v-6 but i would upgrade to the 2014 genesis if they could improve the outdated model . Genesis is still a great car imho. The Audi A/ S 6 is the car to buy right. Its the total package. I also loved the A7 what a sharp car/ suv.
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My friend has the 2011 genesis and i think its a nice car with a great sound system. handling is okay. Needs updating.
the Equis is the car you would try to compare the Audi, A/S6 BMW 5,7 and MB E series not the Genesis,
the Genesis was and ahead of its time 5 yrs ago with its price and entry level luxury and features. No longer a though in this market.
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With the various rebates, I've got a price of $34K +TTL but, not my preferred color combo, so far.
What should I expect to pay and what credit score is required for 2.9% for 72mos
MSRP $44,195 and the rebates appear unchanged as of 5/1
TIA
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On the other hand, all wheel drive may be an option in the new Genesis.
i meant to say all wheel drive .The new Genesis model will offer it.
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My sisters score is 650(not sure which CRA) but, the dealer claims a close relationship with HFS and can get her the promo rate, implying other dealers cannot PUSH an approval.
Is this credible? Should she expect "hidden fees"? Do some Hyundai dealers have more authority with finance?
Around here I'm seeing $6500 off total, after a $1500 competitive upgrade, $1000 finance-with-Hyundai offer, and $4000 in dealership incentives.
"Here" is Texas.
You will get a great deal on a 2013 after the summer. Dealers will be dying to clear there lots and inventory to make room for the 2014. Hyundai discounts big time on there vehicles.
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NJ dealers seem to offer the most aggressive pricing in the NY Metro area
When I look at the pricing and the depreciation rates, a 2011 GENESIS 4.6L with under 40K miles seems to be what I am going to get; either certified or with an extended warranty. The extended bumper to bumper warranty seems to be a much better deal than the Certified option.
I plan to never buy a NEW CAR again, unless I can get it for less than a 2 year old used model with extended bumper to bumper warranty.
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Please post your price for 2013 Gen Sedan + Premium WITHOUT tax. Tax is a big variable, and when added to the price, makes comparisons useless. Thanks!
Please include any other dealer fees or costs, just NOT tax and NOT any state-based or city-based DMV registration/etc. fees that don't go to the dealer.
I am currently shopping around for a 2013 Genesis Sedan with Premium and Tech packages. This forum is very interesting and helpful, so thanks!
Has anyone purchased a similar vehicle in the NY Metro area in the past few months? I ask because the best prices I am getting are @ $36,000 w/o TTL.
Willing to travel to CT/NJ/PA...
Best,
Chris
If there are no bogus "dealer fees", $36K is pretty good depending on what incentives you qualify for, you might be able to shave off another $1K or so.
BEWARE of the "Brad Benson Business Model" dealers, or my personal favorite "Inland Freight"...$1K...driving car from the storage lot to the dealer!
My brother has purchased (although paper work not done) one with the premium package and with trade it is more difficult to be exact with the "cash" price but my estimate would be between $31,300 and $31,700 for his black on black model. The were both purchased from a dealer in Pensacola, Fl although we both live in Mobile, Al. The dealers here were a oke
I really am considering buying the 2015 genesis when its avail next summer. i chose the accord V-6 over the 13 genesis. the new Accord i felt was a better buy then the aging genesis. What i dont like about the Accord is its to small inside for me and the recline on the seat gets lower instead of just straight back. Everything else with the new accord is a home run. My youngest daughter who graduates college after 6 long years in jan. w/ her masters degree will be surprised about her new Accord and graduating present.
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One question. I searched fair purchase price for this car is 28 - 29k, depending on incentives. However, I click the reality check button, fair price is changing to 25-27k. Is this normal? Then what is real fair price?
There was a potentially lower price in Houston ($37.7K), but the dealership seemed really shady and I didn't want to spend an entire day driving over there and back just to find out the deal wasn't legitimate.
That seems like a great price on a heck of a lot of car! My wife and I took the car on a weekend road trip and it was extremely comfortable and fun to drive.
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23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
I traded in a 2010 G37S 6MT with low mileage (~25K) and significant equity. They gave me a decent trade-in offer for the car (about $1K less than I'd have wanted, but close enough given the great price on the new car), so with the 1.9% financing on the difference, I have a crazy low payment on a pretty tremendous amount of car!
I'd love to say that I'm a super negotiator, but their initial quote via email was just over $40K, and with one additional email exchange we landed on $39.9K. Round Rock beat that by $200 to try to get my business, but then Beasley met Round Rock and was 20 miles closer to my house. That's how I got to $39.7K + TT&L. Pretty easy!
Hope this helps,
Scott
So, in reality, it was $39.7 - equity from trade in + TT&L.
Or did you simply take a check from the dealer for the equity in your G37?
Either way, seems like you got a great deal on a car you love.
Happy motoring!
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Sorry to ask for all of the clarification, but I wanted to make sure everyone who reads this forum knows what price to shoot for if they are in the market for a similar car.
And yes, the tax savings (in those states where it is offered) often outweighs any potential monetary gain from a private sale.
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Thanks!
Dealer retail for a 2012 certified is 30,995
Trade in ....................................26,692
private party...............................29,082
I pulled these prices of the Edmunds site.
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Maybe it would help if I explained my purchase frame of mind better. I'm not very interested in resale value, because I plan on hanging onto it until it's barely worth anything. Also, I'd be buying with cash, so $7K is quite a difference out of my bank account; whereas if I financed, it wouldn't be a huge jump in the monthly payment.
I hope I don't sound snarky. I appreciate that you're offering advice. I'm just flinching hard from the price difference! :-D
One other thing: When you say I could get a 2013 for 40K, are you referring to the R-Spec or a loaded 3.8? Even if you do mean the R-Spec, I don't think I could talk myself into pulling another $7K out of savings for it. It's probably going to look pretty dated in a few months if the new model is released, and then I'd feel even lousier for having spent more money to obtain it.
A loaded 3.8 for sure under 40 k the r-spec about 3k or more.
If money is the issue then take your time and wait for your best possible deal. if there is no time factor by waiting til 2014, jan you will see better pricing on the 2012 models..
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On the bright side, I can stop shopping for a winter tire and wheel package for the 4.6L Genny, as it seems pretty sure I won't be buying right now.
Thanks again for your perspectives, Brian. They helped to cool me down and avoid paying too much.
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