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Hyundai designed the touring in Europe, thus with emphasis on handling, not living room type of comfort as most cars in its class.
I'm getting some pretty bad mileage. Mine wont shift before 3K Rpms no matter how I drive. Its translating to 17 mpg city, even worse sometime in my 09' ET with 4K miles on her.
I am very anxious to here where others are getting there shift's.
Regards,
Amp.
My other complaints. No Cruise on 5sp. I ended up buying an aftermarket one from Rostra. It will cost you $400 to get installed. It does work perfectly though. I might get the heated seats too for $200 each. They told me no problem with those seats.
Expensive to put roof rack on. Body metal dents easily. Whinny sound when going over 65 mph due to high RPMs. RPMs 3300 at 70m\hr. Speedometer is high by 2 m\h at 60. These last two issues might not be a problem if you got the 17 inch wheels. My wheels our 16 inch. Seat back a little too tight for me. I'm 6ft 200lbs. If you are bigger across the back watch out. Tinny sounding radio and horn.
Things I like. Almost everything else. Cargo space and trunk organization. Head lights. Head room, I pod connection. Well built car. Good finish. Very safe. Hopeful as reliable as my last 2000 Elantra wagon. Hopefully MPG. 1st tank 29, 2nd tank 31. Back and forth to work on freeway 15 miles each way. Wish we could get the diesel engine here. Power everything. AC. Sits higher which makes it easier to get out from than my old Elantra Wagon. Easy to install 4 bolts pre drilled tow hitch. $95 from Drawtite.
I did get JD powers evaluation survey to fill out. They gave me a dollar. It was 7 pages long and took an hour to fill out. It was nice skipping the 2 pages of what has gone wrong so far. I like JD powers so I did it. Got another too long 10 page survey from someone else but threw it out.
I did get the $50 gift card from Hyundai too. I purchased my car in Dec with loan.
Tires are 16 inch Kumho tires on steel rims with unfortunately 32 psi
At 70 mph my RPMs are 3100 instead of 3300.
Until the ride softens the nick name for my car will be my "Covered Pickup Truck" Let me know if you think this is an accurate name.
I see a lot of reviews don't like the headlights. I think they are great. The low beams are bright with good spread and don't shine too high. They also use a very energy efficient xenon bulb. Xenon bulbs use about 1/2 the electricity and last twice as long as a Halogen.
The high beams use a standard halogen bulb and work with the low beams.
http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-and-reviews/car-reviews-road-tests/hyundai- _i30_wins_car_of_the_year
Google this "Hyundia i30 wins car of the year" to make you feel good about your purchase. The i30 is the Elantra Touring in Europe and Austraila. The car in the comparision had a diesel engine. I wish we could get that engine.
I just installed a drawtite hitch yesterday. Four holes are predrilled it takes 15 min. However, you must remove a large plastic piece of fascia. This was held on by 10 screws and 3 nuts. It takes 15 min to remove. The directions say to leave it off after but I reinstalled it. It took me an hour to trim it to fit but it looks great.
You should be enjoying your new car today. Drive carefull.
Oh I just learned that there is a lever to adjust your steering column. It is located under the steering column.
van
If this is true, are the map lights affected, or are they still there regardless?
If Bluetooth only means losing the sunglasses holder, then I would consider getting it.
Does Bluetooth mean that you answer your phone through the integrated system and speak through microphones embedded in the car, and then listen through the car's audio speakers?
The unit has its own speakers -- it does not use the radio. And because it's not hooked into the radio, it doesn't mute automatically (and there is no mute button on the steering wheel control, a major omission on Hyundai's part). That's really my only complained about how the unit works.
BTW I think these Ford "swap your ride" commercials are ridiculous because for the most part the people are saying that they love the extra features on their loaded loaner cars -- which they could have ordered on their current cars! Stuff like Bluetooth, built-in navigation. How ridiculous!
Can anyone verify what justlou stated about the lights going out to save the battery? Is it only when the parking lights are left on, or does it apply to when the headlights are left on too?
Likes: Gas mileage. Drive 30 miles one way to work. Because of the hours, the trip down is with very light traffic running 70-75mph all the way. Coming home, stop and go, but only for a few miles. The rest runs around 50, with the last 8 miles at, and I am not kidding nor will I tell you where, 80-85mph. Mileage is 31.5 on the last four tanks.
Radio is awesome once you figure out how to turn on the sub-woofer. The factory default has it turned off. I have it set on mid power. High power will remove fillings from your teeth.
I have owned many sports cars, so the ride is good to me. And that sucker handles like it is on rails. Much better than the '05 GT I had, and it had the Tiburon GT rear stabilizer added.
No leather available, but the seats are very comfortable.
The one negative I have to get checked out is that there is no throttle control between idle and 2000rpm. As in you are either at 700rpm (idle) or at 2000rpm or above. With a 5spd in traffic, this makes stop and go a rough proposition. The little beast will lurch and stumble unless you keep it in a lower gear and run the engine at 2K or above. I have a great dealer here and will take it by for them to check the throttle position sensor and ECM software. I remember a different brand vehicle a friend owned several years ago that had a very similar problem, and the dealer determined that the software for the ECM was the automatic tranny version, and his was a 5spd.
One thing I have always liked about the 2.0L w/5spd is the way the intake is "tuned" for sound. Wind it up to 6K and it sounds like a tuner. But in honesty, I tell folks that "The Pearl" is like the other two Elantra's I have owned. It isn't what I would call fast, but is definitely quick. And very, very nimble. I have fun playing with the Bimmers in the twistees. :P
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
What I am most concerned with is how smooth and quiet the ride is. Based on what I've read about the Rondo:
1) it has a "great ride" (very smooth, don't feel bumps, car-like; definitely not a sports car feel)
2) fairly low cabin noise
3) very good highway cruiser at 65-75 (smooth & quiet).
Based on what I've read about the Touring it has a pretty "rough" ride (particularly going over bumps) and the engine "whines" once you are over 65.
Has anyone driven both a Touring and a Ronda? Or has anyone driven a Touring and a Sonata GLS and can compare the ride?
Another advantage of the Rondo is that they have discontinued it and all existing 2009's are heavily discounted. You could probably pick up an auto one for 14-15K plus tax.
Any comments?
For what its worth, my driving experience with the Elantra Touring has been with the supposedly "very pleasant" ride. You're entitled to your opinion, and don't be offended when I disagree in a major way. Perhaps its what we're comparing: I have an Accord and it feels downright cushy compared to the Elantra Touring; that's interesting to note since the Accord is generally derided for being one of the harshest riding family sedans on the market.
I drove GLS models, one auto one manual, both rode rough, and had a surprising amount of noise. I drove the Elantra Touring wanting to LOVE it, really I did; I just didn't.
*PS - A big deal-breaker was really the lack of power in the automatic and the lack of cruise availability on the manual. Its a lose-lose for me, since I do long-distance travel once per month.
Jim
http://autos.syracuse.com/Autos?tp=TR_syr&category=research&temp_type=detail&tl=- 3&model_id=19971&car_id=320562&tab=review
BTW you can call XM and get 5 months for $20+tax which is a much better deal than the normal $12/mo (or is it 13?). The guy I spoke to offered me that option, but since my service was still working I decide to wait.
Also, I learned something new about the radio controls this week. If you hold the station change arrows on the steering wheel down, it works the same as the Scan button. It beeps and goes up to the next station. For XM it moves up one channel. This is GREAT since I always had trouble cycling through the XM channels looking for the various MLB games (I only have one stored as a favorite). Also it works better than the knob, which sometimes would get "stuck" on an XM channel if you tried to move too quickly.
I still wish they had a mute button on the steering wheel.
2. Asking XM any questions is a lost cause. Their "employees" don't know anything about their product
3. You can expect your XM to last only one month past the expiration date. There is always a few weeks added on to those who let their subscription lapse, so I would expect the same for trials as well.
Can anyone tell me the dimensions of the cargo area of the ET? I can find a quoted measurement of 63" for the cargo floor with the seats folded down; does anyone know the width between the wheel wells, and the height from the cargo floor to the ceiling?
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
41'' between the wheel wells
30'' high from floor to hatch opening at the top
33'' high from floor to ceiling once you clear the hatch opening at the top. This is the measurement on a vehicle without sunroof
64'' long (minimum) cargo area with the rear seats folded down, and with the driver's seat all the way back and angled back to maximize comfort for a long legged driver. If you put the front seats more forward and upright, the length will increase
If you are doing comparison shopping, I believe the ET is larger in the cargo area than the Tucsan, and has a lot more storage areas in the back with the pull up floor revealing the styrofoam storage tray. I did not see such a tray on the Tucsan, only the spare tire once you pulled up the cargo floor.
Those interior dimensions look pretty generous given the car's external size. I'm comparing it to other wagons and hatchbacks, and really only the Jetta wagon beats it without going to a different size class.
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
Quick question - have any other Touring owners had issues with pinging? I just started hearing some within the last week under normal driving and loads. We haven't even hit 2000 miles yet so I am a little disturbed.
Not to take business away from this board, but pinging is serious stuff. In addition to posting and monitoring here, you may want to join and post on this ET board: hyundaiforum.com/ and manuever your way to the ET forum site
And about that fuel economy... Wait until you are over 3K miles before you check it. I don't know what the deal is, but I have owned three brand new Elantra with the 2.0L, and everyone of them got a slight bump in fuel economy between 2.5K and 3K.
I drive a '10 Touring SE w/5spd, and running 75-80 on the highway (don't ask!) I consistently get 31mpg. If I am in a locale where I can stay at 70 without getting run over, that jumps to 32-33.
I did purchase the car new, it had 200 miles on it - it was driven in from another dealer a few hours away.
I've heard the aftermarket filter story too, it sounds like a load of you know what to me, though I'm no expert.