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I don't know if its related.....
The 80MPH speed limit in Texas is restricted to a section of I10 out west of San Antonio. Very appropriate as there is NOTHING out there. But they also have a zero tolerance beyond that, and the slower limit at night is real. Lot's of critters on the road out there at night. :surprise:
Considering it is the same engine with the manual or the auto, and the only difference is in the ECM software, someone at Hyundai should be able to figure this out. For now, they will only say that it isn't right, but there is nothing to fix unless the factory comes up with a software fix.
Anybody out there with the 2.0L and 5spd, why don't you try this and see what happens? With the engine at normal operating temp, in neutral (or with the clutch in) see if you can slowly accelerate the engine from idle up to 2000rpm. Then rev the engine to 2500rpm and try to bring it slowly down to idle. I tried it in an auto and it will do it. But everytime it was tried in a manual, no throttle below 2K, and if you try to bring it from 2500 down slowly, just above 2K it will just drop to idle.
Be interesting to see if anyone else sees this.
Sigh. :sick:
What do you actually get for the increase in price ?
What's the average increase from the GLS to the SE ?
Opinion - is it worth it ?
Thank You !!!
--- Penguinhead
You are very correct in you statement that the GLS with pkg 2 is a good deal. I drove both when I was shopping and preferred the handling character of the SE. Then again, I have always been a bit of a sports car nut. Also, I was shopping for a 5spd, and the SE uses a short throw shifter. Funny that Hyundai was paying attention and found that one of the most popular modifications to the earlier GT sedan was the swap of the stock shifter for the B&M short throw shifter. So it is now standard in the SE.
The other common mod on the previous generation Elantra was to change out the rear stabilizer with the rear bar from the Tiburon GT. Bolted right up and gave the car a slight oversteer character. Actually, more like a go-kart without affecting the ride harshness.
I really had to dig to find out about the steering ratio. It isn't a lot different, but some. But you better really like the ride if you are going to go with an SE, because it is night and day different from the GLS.
Understand that my most fun toy ever was an unsprung racing go-kart that sat about .75" off the ground. Whoo Hooo!
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
Try a seat of the pants comparison. On a smooth, wavy roadway you can really feel it. The vehicle adapts more quickly to the irregularities.
As I said earlier, if you like really tight responsive handling more that softer ride, go with the SE. If you prefer the smoother ride, the GLS.
I have three different cup style sockets, and you are right, none of them fit.
Any help with these questions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks...
As I recall, the holes are already there to attach the mudflaps, but in all honesty I would need to confirm that when I leave work. If you buy the mudflaps through the dealer you bought the car from, you might be able to get a "good customer" deal on the install.
So I am now about a week and a half past 4 months and it's still working. Every day I turn it on expecting it not to work and it keeps working. Not that I am complaining, of course.
So...
93 octane from BP seems to have eliminated the knocking, not that it makes me feel any better. I've got a better idea as to when it knocks, though its not a very specific behavior. Accelerating with the rpms around 1750 will do it though I swear I hear it much higher than that too.
I'll check back after I go to the dealer again...
Thanks...
A few tips
I added valve stem extenders on tires for $1.
I'm using the lid of the CD storage compartment (just in front of shifter) to mount my Garmin GPS. Work perfect there. I can release the suction mount and throw the whole works into that compartment and shut the lid. No one is the wiser.
You know what? Funny you should mention valve stem extenders, I checked the air on my tires today and had a hard time getting an accurate read because of the way the stems are positioned with the wheel cover.
I think I will look into getting valve stem extenders as well. I have never heard of them before, but this car really needs them. Send a suggestion to Hyundai.
Thanks,
Tim
I have the GLS Auto with the Popular Pkg 2 which adds a lot of nice extras, it is well worth it IMO. The Popular Pkg 2 adds roof side rails, fog lights, telescopic steering wheel w/audio controls, trip computer, illuminated ignition, premium cloth interior w/cloth door trim, driver seat height & lumbar adjustment, sliding sun visors w/dual illuminated vanity mirrors, front setback pockets, cooled glove box, and retractable cargo cover .
The Base GLS Manual doesn't have cruise control either as far as I know. I would opt for the Auto with the extras. Good Luck...
I can't say for sure about the Elantra Touring, but Hondas have been doing this since the mid-90s, sometimes coming down into third gear as high as 50 MPH. Noticeable but helpful in preventing brake-riding/warping.
They aligned the toe( apparently of the three alignment parameters this is the only one thats serviceable), but to no avail. The service tech suggested it was torque pull( which in itself is ridiculous as I have another FWD car that drives straight)...but it still pulls under no acceleration. I bring it back to the dealer next week and will be meeting with a district rep. I posted this in another forum, but thought Id share this. Anyone else here have the same issue? Thanks. I will post an update.
As a side note, try swapping your front tires right to left. Radials can do some strange things with FWD when they develop some wear. Wouldn't be the first time a "pull" was fixed with a tire rotation.
Starting a car in first gear with a clutch obviously needs a minimum amount of rpm to get it going, however if it becomes an issue I'm sure I will press hyundai about it. So far on my 2007 awd santa fe, Hyundai has been very responsive to issues: (towing electrical connector, broken sun-visor and bad alternator).
Mileage has been 28, 31 mpg combined on first 2 tanks of gas, driving conservatively.
Date code on car April 03, 2010.
So, here is a tip for all you Touring owners:
www.hmaservice.com
Set up your account and you will have access to just about everything you ever wanted to know about a Hyundai. These are the only guys I know that provide such detailed online data for their vehicles.
They used to even have all the parts books online, and you could order parts and have them drop-shipped to the nearest dealer. If you have ever worked your way through a manufacturers parts book you will know why they stopped doing that. It is written almost in a foreign language.
Have fun with the website. It is a good one. And if you cannot see the pictures, do what their instructions say regarding downloading an adobe (i think) package. It works!
Jim
No more pull. That's the good news. I swapped the fronts to the back, crossing them, first. took the rears straight forward. Made no difference. Then crossed the fronts left/right, and no more pull. I will keep an eye on the front tires to see if some anomaly shows up.
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Great to hear. So, the pull is completely gone?
As for my car, Im not sure they did that kind of a tire rotation, but it wouldnt hurt for sure for them to do that. As for alignment, I dont know if they did a 4 wheel or not. The service ticket is still open because of a few other jobs that need to be completed.
Which model do you have? Mines the 09...17 inch rims with Kumhos.
BTW- Theres nothing Ive found that suggests the caster and camber are adjustable. Did your tech tell you this?
Thanks.
I base the adjustable off the specs giving a range of adjustment. That, and I have never seen a McPherson strut suspension that was not adjustable. The only thing I can think of is that some MP systems are not easily CASTER adjustable, but camber is pretty straightforward. Next time I go out I will look under the car and see if the adjustments are where they usually are.
I just checked on the TSB's that were released for 2010. There is one for all alignment specifications for all Hyundai. The Touring is listed with the ranges to adjust to. There is also a troubleshooting guide that discusses pull and drift issues and what to adjust in the alignment, so even though the detail of exactly what moves, it sure looks like the Touring is adjustable.
Trivia of the day: The Pontiac Fiero was fully adjustable, toe, caster, camber, on each of it's four wheels. If you could find an alignment shop that knew what they were doing, you could throw the factory settings out the window and make those things handle like a go-kart!
Jim
Average speed: 69.4
Average MPG: 30.5
Drove the car to work today, and checked it after I got home.
Average speed: 65.1
Average MPG: 31.6
Yeah, I think I will keep it!
I swung by the dealer yesterday to tell them Ill need a car for when I bring it in tomorrow. While I was there It was suggested to me their alignment machine may not be operating properly. Apparently theyve been working on a Genesis that wont track straight as well Ever hear of a problem with the machine?
They use a Hunter machine, btw.
IOW it felt normal, lol. Now, theyre going to bring in someone else. Sigh...
At least I KNOW now there is a problem with my car.
Trick will be figuring out which one.
-very comfortable for long distances. The only change I'd like is a longer bottom cushion.
-the illumination of the information/radio screen is obnoxiously bright! There should be some setting other than off.
-while standard features are plentiful, the curious omissions (some mentioned by others) are: no mute for radio, no intermittent setting for the rear wiper, a 5th fan speed (this is like the auto when it comes to the difference between 3 & 4), and no fender or mirror mounted turn signal.
The trip computer is rather optimistic in mileage calculation (off by 3mpg on initial leg of my trip). Other than that, it was very comfortable, relatively quiet (the A-pillar is a bit noisy above 70 mph), and I managed 31mpg of mostly high desert/high temperature cruising. My previous Hyundai GT had a marked improvement in mpg after 3k miles which seems to be the norm with this brand.
The suspension on my SE is very bouncy over LA freeways but otherwise fine. The damping is very stiff for a family hauler but it corners great! I wanted the 5-speed but ended up with the auto. The only time it is annoying is going up steep grades at high speed. While I'm sure the 5-spd is more entertaining, the auto is not the end of the world. It's more than fine in commuting situations and heavy traffic. I'm very happy with my car!