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2014 and Earlier Jaguar XF Lease Questions
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Car_man
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I am coming out of an XF lease so they provided some consideration to keep me as a customer.
2012 XF base with Nav, cold weather, rear view camera. 12k per year 36 month lease. $650 / month including tax with only MV fees which should be somewhere around $1500. Thoughts?
The XF Portfolio had an MSRP of $59875. I negotiated it down as far as the dealer would go to $55775. That is apparently pretty decent from what I'm hearing. The money rate bottomed out at .00081 for 36 mos at 15K miles, also decent. Sales tax rate is a modest 3.2 percent here. Dealer fees of $499, $795 acquisition fee. The residual for 36 mos at 15K/yr (my target) was originally quoted as 52 percent, but at the very last minute they reduced it to 51 percent claiming a "math error." They basically took away the "Jaguar modifier credit" of 1 pct. Confusing. Residuals were 60 pct at 24 mos (!) and 41 pct at 48 mos.
Lease with 1st pmt (plus title/tags only up front) due upon signing and with the taxes and fees rolled in rendered a pmt of $1086 for 24 mos, $859/mo for 36 mos, and $813.43 for 48 mos. Again, all at 15K mis/yr. Pmts were $953/771/746, respectively, with 1st pmt, tax/tag/title/fees up front (around 4K) and no voluntary cap cost reduction.
In my opinion, these are not particularly great lease opportunities for a mid 50'sK vehicle. Please correct me if you think I'm wrong. Even with the negotiated price way under avg and a money factor which converts to 1.94 pct.
Blame the horrible residuals...and the relatively (to other brands) stingy reduction off MSRP.
Mercedes, on the other hand (just to name one), offered a 64 pct residual at 30 mos, 55 pct at 36 mos, 51 pct at 42 mos and 49 pct at 48 mos. Mercedes Benz money factors are not exceptionally great for the E350 (.00145 for 36 mos at 15K miles), but their residuals save the day. Of course, it doesn't hurt that, thanks to the Winter Event, MB dealers are slashing up to 14 pct off MSRP on the E Class sedan. Heh.
MSRP:$55,100
Selling Price: $49,155
Residual 44%
MF .00018 (thru Chase)
39 month lease 15k per year, all other payments made up front, NOT in lease payment
Monthly payment=$652
Can you possibly post the money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease Jaguar XF Base with 12,000 miles per year for February 2012.
Thanks.
Is this a good deal?
Jaguar is providing a $2,300 cash incentive on leases of this car right now. Make sure to take this cash into account during your negotiations.
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Trying to get some info on the current lease deals on the XF sports package. The car I am looking at has an MSRP of $66,400 and shows the adjusted cap cost of $64,516 (including the $795 ACQ fee). I am also seeing a money factor at .00045 and residual at 47%. Looking to do a 36 month lease (unless something shorter comes out cheaper) with 12k miles. Does the above look good/correct (money factor, residual, etc)? Do you know if the incentive mentioned above is still being offered or are there any other rebates, etc? Thanks for the help. I have never dealt with a jaguar dealership before so not sure what to expect.
Since its now May, do you have info on money factors, residuals and any rebates or incentives for may/June. My current lease isn't up until the end of June, so I'm wondering if there is any benefit in waiting until then or doing a deal now. Thanks in advance.
Chase's May buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 XF with Sport and 12,000 miles per year are .00003 and 46%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.
Jaguar is providing a $1,200 cash incentive on leases of this car in May.
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The numbers for an otherwise identical 48-month lease are .00032 and 42%.
Jaguar is providing a $1,200 cash incentive on leases of the XF Portfolio through Chase right now.
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I would appreciate it if you could let me know the May 2012 residuals and money factors for a 24-month and 36-month lease with 10,000 miles per year for the XF base model. Also, are there reduced money factors for loyal Jaguar clients, and does Jaguar offer any annual mileage for a lease lower than 10,000 miles per year? I believe Mercedes-Benz may offer a 7,500 mile per year lease option and was curious if Jaguar had anything similar. Thank you!
The numbers for an otherwise identical 36-month lease are .00002 and 45%.
Jaguar is currently providing a $3,400 cash incentive on leases of this car. I don't believe that it is offering any additional incentives for loyal customers.
I'm not sure if Chase, that who Jaguar runs its special lease program through, offers leases on Jags with less than 10,000 miles per year. It wouldn't hurt to ask.
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MSRP: $59875
Gross Cap Cost: $54903.66(includes destination charges)
Down Payment: $3000 - covered the following 6 items
1.Capitalized cost reduction: $953.15
2.Bank Acquisition Fee: $795
3.First monthly payment: $727
4.Initial registration fees: $447
5.Cash Cap tax: $69.10
6.California tire tax: $8.75
Adjusted Cap Cost: $53995
Residual Value: 23351
Money Factor: .00051 (I was told that this was the top tier Chase’s leasing rate
Term in Months: 48
Sales Tax: 7.25%
For the following amount:
Monthly Payment: $677.86
Sales Tax: $49.14
Total: $727.00
I was told there was no incentives available to the customer or the dealer, and yet you said Jaguar is providing a $1200 incentive...I think they gave part of it to me anyway because they sold me the car for $54903.66...But, can they markup the money factor rate from .00032 to .00051 and tell the customer that that is the top rate?
Also, please let me know overall what you think of this deal.
Thanks
Once again, thank you for the information. With regard to the $3,400 cash inventive, is this a number you would expect to be deducted from the final negotiated price of the car? The reason I am asking is that it looks like for the advertised base XF lease special on the Jaguar Web site, the final sales price of the car would have to be a few thousand dollars less than the dealer cost for the vehicle. Let me know. Thanks!
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Car_man
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Thank you for the updated July info on the 36 month lease rates. A couple questions for clarification:
1. Does the lease residual for 15K mi/yr at 44% = 10K mi/yr at 47% (plus 3%)? The Jaguar USA web site seems to indicate a 10K mi/yr lease residual is 46% ($24783/$53875). Is there an additional 1% residual to be had at 10K mi/yr?
2. How much of a lease incentive to dealer is still in place? For a 36 month 10K mi/yr, using a MF = 0.0004 and residual = 46% seems to indicate an incentive of roughly $2850 applied. You mentioned that previously the total lease incentive to dealer was actually $3400- is this full $3400 still available?
Thanks for all the _very_ helpful info!
Thanks again!
Pretty good estimate, newxf. Jaguar is providing a $2,900 cash incentive on 36-month leases of base '12 XF models through Chase.
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Jaguar USA is advertising that their current XF lease offer runs through the end of August. Do you think the current MF, residual, and incentive will continue to get worse in August (July numbers weren't as favorable as June's)? Or any chance they'll improve with the release of 2013's in August?
Thanks for the advice!
XF Base Model with Premium Package -1:
MSRP: $ 56,125
Capitalized Cost: $ 51,984
Residual: $ 25,817
Lease Term: 36 months
Money Factor: 0.00004
Total Drive Off Amount: $ 2124
Monthly Payment: $ 785.45
To me the MSRP looks very high.
Let me know your thought. Thanks.
Jaguar's programs are usually fairly consistent throughout the quarter so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if its August program for the XF was exactly the same as its July program. We'll know for certain later this week.
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It looks to me as though the selling price that you were quoted is probably around $3,000 over invoice. If you're in an area that has a decent level of competition, you should be able to do better than that.
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Thanks for the update. I didn’t get to do much car shopping in July, but am looking to close a deal this month, so I’m definitely interested in seeing the August incentive, money factor, and residual for a 36 mo 10K mi lease. Hopefully they hold or even improve a bit with the 2013s showing up. Look forward to your post, and thanks for all your help!
Do you have any info on the XF Supercharged concerning the money factor, residual for 15K and the incentive offered? Also any August info would be great as well. Thanks.
I saw on another site that the $2900 incentive is good through 10/1/12. Would this indicate that the other numbers (MF and residual) remain the same as last month's? The JaguarUSA site still lists the residual as 46% as of 7/3/2012.
I also turned up a series of incentives ($1500, $3500, $5000) listed as "Bonus Cash Jaguar US ALIVE Driving Experience Cash Jaguar US National"- do you have any details on how these rebates work?
Thanks for all the info, looking forward to your post!
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As far as cash incentives go, this month Jaguar is currently providing a $1,000 cash incentive on leases of this car through Chase.
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You can sign up for a potential opportunity to go to one of these events here:
http://www.jaguarusa.com/drive-experience/overview/
Car_man
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The cash incentive on leases of the Portfolio drops to $600, versus $2,900 on the base. However, the $2,000 loyalty cash is available on the Portfolio XF, but not the base so the total incentive on the Portfolio is $2,600 for loyal customers...not much different than the $2,900.
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I would appreciate it if you could let me know if the October 2012 loyalty incentives are the same as they were in September 2012 for the XF Portfolio or if they have improved. I checked the Jaguar USA Web site, and the $2,000 loyalty incentive shown has an October 1st expiration date.
I also would appreciate it if you could let me know what the October 2012 money factors and residuals would be for a 24-month and 36-month lease of a 2012 XF Portfolio with 10,000 miles per year. Also, is 10,000 miles the lowest mileage offered on Jaguar leases? Thanks, again!
Chase's October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24-month lease of a 2012 XF Portfolio with 10,000 miles per year are .00083 and 54%, respectively for consumers who qualify for it top credit tier.
The numbers for an otherwise identical 36-month lease are .00003 and 50%, respectively.
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As always, thank you for the information. What do you think is a reasonable price for a 2012 XF Portfolio before the $2,000 loyalty discount?
Can you please share the 24 and 36 month lease residuals and money factors for the 2012 Jaguar XF Base? Also is there any conquest cash and/or dealer incentives on the vehicle for October? Can they be combined?
Thank you in advance your for your help.
I can't say that I am intimately familiar with what the market is like for the XF right now, but if I was interested in leasing one I personally would shoot for a selling price of $500 to $1,000 over the dealer invoice price that is listed here at Edmunds.com in the New Vehicle Pricing section of the site.
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The numbers for an otherwise identical 36-month lease are .00001 and 45%.
The dealer cash that is available on the 2012 XF is not available on leases, but there is a $2,300 cash incentive that is. There is also a $1,500 cash incentive that is designed to get consumers who are currently leasing competitive models out of their deals early and into a new XF. These offers can be combined.
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Thanks, again, for the information. That was a great game and a great win on Saturday. It might be the best victory I've seen since the Lou Holtz era.
I did want to ask you one more question regarding the XF. Can you provide the money factors and residuals for a 24-month and 36-month lease with 10,000 miles per year for the XF Supercharged model? Thanks!
Chase's October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24-month lease of a 2012 XF Supercharged with 10,000 miles per year are .00082 and 52%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.
The numbers for an otherwise identical 36-month lease are .00001 and 47%.
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I apologize for the delay in responding, but I wanted to thank you for the lease information for both the Jaguar XF and XJ. It has been very helpful.
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I am looking at both Jaguar XF's and E350's. For the XF, would you please provide me with the following rates for November?
2012 XF Base and Portfolio - 24, 36 and 39 month leases at 10K miles/year
2013 XF 3.0 (not AWD) - 24, 36 and 39 month leases at 10K miles/year
Also, would you be able to share any rebates/incentives being offered for both model years? Conquest cash, dealer cash, etc? I'd assume jaguar is getting aggressive on moving 2012's...at least I'm hoping they are.
Thanks in advance for your help.