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Obviously not as big, but hybrids and diesels used that to become more or less mainstream.
It's a tougher battle for EVs given their cost.
Our garage has 2 EV charging spots, and they only charge about 1/3rd of what it would cost to charge at home given the rates here.
I've seen one Volt and one Prius plug-in, so not many takers.
Still can't get used to not hearing any engine noise.
Young still excited by autos that reflect Green concerns, connectivity (Detroit News)
My pre-emissions fintail and V8 daily driver show how I love the greenies :shades:
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/02/14/tesla-takes-new-york-times-to-task-for-damnin- g-model-s-re/
Looks like the NYT write was lying through his teeth! That's waaaay too much contradictory data to be made up.
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/02/19/new-york-times-admits-tesla-model-s-writer-- - - didnt-use-go/
I predict these black boxes will change the way reviews are written in the future. Better take good notes!
NYTimes has never exactly been the best at auto reporting. Many of the people who work there don't even drive at all!
From what I read, Broder isn't an auto writer either, but covers the oil industry among other stuff.
But I'm not going to call it a hack job until after market closes in another minute and Tesla releases sales results for Q4. They targeted 2,500 to 3k. Or was it 3k sold for the year? Lost that link already.
Looks like Tesla didn't quite meet expectations, only selling 2400.
The entire NYT has a liberal agenda. Not much there you can take face value. Reader beware with ALL MEDIA.
That's just it - the Greens are saying that Broder is an oil company shill trying to slam EVs to protect the gasoline sellers.
With folks like Broder telling bogus stories, that's not going to change. Most of the public won't catch the part where the NYT apologized.
Plus Fox News has had it out for the Volt since day one, to them it's the bail out poster child.
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/02/20/tesla-delivered-2-650-model-s-evs-last-year- -musk-confident-of-p/
$20,250 to start here in MD after Fed and state incentives.
That is the truth. The Volt has cost US billions and with little chance of it EVER becoming mainstream at a competitive price. We cannot continue to subsidize every crazy scheme that comes along and stay strong. Good ideas have to make it on merit not government subsidies.
It will take longer for EVs, but I wouldn't dismiss them quite yet.
Yes, it's slated for production.
No, we won't get it.
1,953 pounds, 32 mile range in all electric mode. Two cylinder TDI engine.
They sell now even after the incentives are gone.
Leaf prices dropped, they'll keep going in that direction. Right now a Leaf is cheaper than an Altima.
I can imagine in 5-10 years an EV being price competitive (in certain classes) without incentives.
But this time it's different. There are no time limits. And no scary big brother black boxes watching over us. It's our car. We paid for it. We picked it up at the Fremont factory with 50 Tesla-test-track miles on the odometer. And our plan is simple. We're going to drive the hell out of it for a year. We're going to drive it as much as possible. Where we want. When we want. And Mr. Musk can only sit back and read about it like everybody else."
2013 Tesla Model S Long-Term Road Test
Imagine pulling up and exchanging the battery instantly instead of waiting to charge. Might even be quicker than pouring 20 gallons of gas.
A B segment car could have one battery pack, a bigger van or truck could have 2 of the same battery packs, all interchangeable.
That's a key problem to these cars now - want to take a 400 mile trip without a huge detour in the middle? Tough luck.
Yet...after taking into account the up coming inflation for 10 years, we'll see higher prices on EV's even though cost of production should decrease for a number of reasons.
We just completed a 2000+ mi. road trip and our '10 Fusion Hybrid only averaged a big 38.3 MPG . (Texas speed limits are like 75 MPH
Nobody reads the corrections/apology on the bottom of page 6, in small print.
They take the headline and run with it. Most readers only scan the paper and don't even read the whole story. They'll tell their friends "See? Those EVs still can't go very far".
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/02/26/musk-says-new-york-times-debacle-may-have-cos- t-tesla-100/
NYT has a pretty big circulation. I also would not overestimate the intelligence of the car buying public.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/09/15/tesla-motors-gets-a-465-million-taxpayer-- loan-why/
Bankrupt Tesla CEO Buys $17 Million Mansion After Receiving $465 Million Taxpayer-Funded Bailout
Although I do think Musk, being a zillionaire, should have been made to use more of his own fortune for his pet project. But that's how we roll here - socialize losses, privatize winnings.