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If you want info on the new one send me a pm or email me at srybicki@comcast.net. I just got my father in law a new limited no nav in red for 24k flat.
I'm buying a SE with Nav/Sunroof for $23,750 sometim in aug-Sept
Glad I got mine early I would toot my horn, but you can't hear it anyway.
DESCRIPTION:
CONDITION
If a (YF) Sonata vehicle exhibits a rattle/creak type noise from the right front passenger
area when the vehicle is driven on uneven or rough roads, and the rattle/creak noise is
eliminated when the glove box lid is unlatched, proceed with this bulletin.
CAUSE
Rubbing between lid latch tabs and the retaining ports on the glove box housing.
REPAIR
Apply felt cloth tape to both left and right retaining ports on the glove box housing.
I was surprised when I opened up the console pieces of an Elantra years ago to find that all contact points had felt pads, and the harnesses themselves were wrapped in a felt material to eliminate sqeaking.
The dealer called me today and said they still don't know where the creaking is coming from and in the midst of trying to find the creak they cracked my windshield. I really hope they buy this car back from me. Fingers crossed!
I can;t believe the lemon law applies to creaks and rattles. If your current Dealer can't or wont fix it take it to another Dealer.
I think Hyundai is trying to make a decent vehicle but it's impossible to have a first class vehicle with a second class service department.
The biggest single complaint from everybody I know who had a Hyundai or KIA product was the lack of trained technicians they have to service there vehicles. This was also the main reason for not purchasing another one.
Your statement is very true; no matter the brand or price of the car, a bad service department can destroy confidence in the product.
Really?
I see just the opposite.
Manual Sonata GLSs can be had for just about 19k, and auto GLSs can be had for just about 20k in my neck of the woods, all day long.
I also notice there are no shortage of Sonatas on dealer lots, even though various salesmen have told me "they sell fast."
You can only believe what you can verify, and that does not include statements from car salespersons.
Yes, the 2011 is selling better than last years model did, and yes dealers are keeping it more conservative on how many cars they order, but that plant down in Alabama is plenty big and can churn many Sonatas out.
I honestly believe and have personal experience that prices on the 2011 Sonata are lower for good negotiators now than they were at any time since its release.
I like the Sonata, but I think we're going to buy a two or three year old Toyota Avalon or maybe a new Outback, because the roads are terrible where we are, and we need a smoother riding car with a large backseat.
Our biggest hangup is whether to buy new or used - you still get murdered on depreciation buying any car new, especially over the first two years, no matter what anyone tells me.
The Alabama plant is already on overtime and at or near capacity. Keep in mind it doesn't just make Sonatas, and Santa Fes are selling pretty well now also.
I don't know Hyundai's capability to ship US-spec Sonatas from the ROK, as they did in the early days of the Gen 4 Sonata before the US plant was able to produce the I4 engine.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0425928320100804
Lot of consumers out there in debt trouble because they couldn't tell the difference between NEED and WANT.
Lot of consumers out there in debt trouble because they couldn't tell the difference between NEED and WANT.
AMEN!!! You got that so right! I grew up poor but with a lot of help, a lot of good choices, some hard work and God's blessings I became financially blessed. I live well below my means. I always have. I was shopping for a midsized car and waited for the sonata to come out. I didn't like it so I took a step up and bought a new toyota venza. I also bought my son a new car for graduation from college. Cash deals - needed transportation - although could have gotten away with far less the money was insignificant to me. I was never contacted by XM so I contacted them. It is now $500 for lifetime plus royalties bringing the total to about $590. That dollar amount is insignificant to me, but it's the principle. Although I WANT to listen to the radio I DO NOT need to pay for it - and certainly not that amount of money - from a company that was already on the brink of bankrupcy and may not be around too long. Distinguishing wants and needs makes it much easier to live off yesterday's monies than tomorrow's.
Did you try another Dealer for service?
Does anybody else hear these creaking sounds besides you or is just you dislike the vehicle and want to get rid of it?.. :confuse:
That dollar amount is insignificant to me, but it's the principle.
What principle is that??
My kids think they are deprived. :P
As far as going to another dealer: Hyundai corp advised me NOT to go to another dealer since they have been working on my car and know the history.
Not sure why you guys are so skeptical. :confuse: Do you think there is no way this can happen to a Sonata? I realize its only a creaking sound, but with less than 2K miles on the car it shouldn't have nor should I need to deal with this.
It is not surprising that some may have a problem, just as it would not be surprising for some other make/model automobile to have a problem including much more expensive vehicles.
Sorry you are having to deal with it, fish8. However, you are in the middle of diagnosis and hopefully the resolution of the issue.
What I am finding most interesting is what Hyundai will ultimately do regarding this.
I sometimes think as fit and finish improves (as has been the case with Hyundai over the past 15 yrs), and tolerances decrease there is more chance that even a 1/64 of an inch difference in plastic parts or a little burr can cause rubbing of parts and in turn creaking . I can also imagine it would be difficult to detect and may involve trial and error before it is fixed. Good luck, and try not to let this experience
keep you from ultimately enjoying your new car.
Sure it can happen to any vehicle. What I am skeptical about is there are only so many things you can tighten, lubricate, insulate or spray on a vehicle to get rid of squeaks and rattles. It seems like your Dealer had your car for quite a long time on more than one occasion, and still can't fix it. You even claim he cracked your windshield. Doesn't sound like a place I would take my car to.
I live in the North East part of the country where we have harsh winters, and years ago when they made cars out of metal we use to undercoat the cars with a tar and rubber substance. They would spray the wheel wells and the under carriage. It not only protected it from the salt but also deadened the road noise. They don't do this any more because they make the panels out of plastic and rubber instead of metal..
Not sure where you live but perhaps some kind of undercoating would solve your problem.
My car has been in the shop for this issue alone 10 days and including my ac issues almost out 16 days.
Honestly I think the sonata is a good car. I just happen to get a bad one. I could sit back and just live with the noise, but I am not sure that is the proper thing to do. I really think the dealer has no idea what is wrong. For that matter, Hyundai is probably stumped as well. Hope to hear from Hyundai today on what the next steps are.
Lot of consumers out there in debt trouble because they couldn't tell the difference between NEED and WANT.
Well aren't you judgemental! Sure, there are lots of consumers out there who need to keep their spending habits in alignment with their income. There are also lots who have worked both smart and hard to get ahead in this world, and have now have the fruits of their labor in the form of discretionary income.
No I haven't. I test drove the SE and Limited but never looked underneath them.
You could ask your dealer if this normal but my guess is he wouldn't have a clue.
Really. I never heard that before. I never heard the term ziebarting before either.
I have heard of Ziebart which is a franchise that specializes in undercoating, window tinting and Rhino truck bed liners. There is a Ziebart franchise not far from my house that has been there for years and seems to be doing ok