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I think it would be nice for the Accord to have Paddleshifters. Many cars in this segment have this option already. The TSX has this option, a few other Honda's have this option. I might not use the option all the time, but adds a more sport appeal.
It might be reason enough for me to choose the TSX over the Accord. It is a lot of fun, only if its synced right with the engine and gives you almost complete control over the engine. Is it a make it or break it option? No, but it would be nice!
Majestic Honda's part number is 4888656 for grey or 4888657 for tan interior for a 2009.
Here's my write-up of about month ago for a '10 coupe:
SUCCESS!!! Yes I had to use a jumper to get the ambient light to work. Here's the scoop: The connector that plugs into the sunroof switch has 12 pins (2 rows of 6 pins each). The first 3 pins (top left) are for the lights. Pin #1 is for the ambient light (no wire from the harness goes this slot - one end of the jumper goes here - the other end goes to pin #2), pin #2 is power and pin #3 is for the S/R light. Good luck.
I'm still playing with jumpers, etc but so far no success.
Thanks
•Leather-trimmed heated front bucket seats -inc: 8-way pwr driver seat, driver pwr lumbar, passenger-side "walk-in" feature
•Driver & front passenger active head restraints
•Fold-down rear seatback
•Center console w/sliding armrest, storage compartments
•Blue ambient console lighting
•Floor mats
•Tilt & telescopic steering column
•Warning lights -inc: door & trunk open, fuel, coolant temp, low oil pressure, low brake fluid, Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) on, passenger-side airbag shut-off
•Maintenance Minder system
•Pwr windows w/front auto-up/down, illuminated switches
•Pwr door locks w/auto-lock
•Remote entry system w/pwr window control, pwr trunk release
•Cruise control
•Remote fuel filler door & trunk release w/lock
•Security system
•Immobilizer theft-deterrent system
•Dual-zone automatic climate control
•Rear window defroster
•Illuminated lockable glove box
•Front & rear cup holders
•Coin box
•(2) 12V pwr outlets
•Side door pockets
•Sunglasses holder
•Dual illuminated visor vanity mirrors
•Map lights
•Cargo area light
•Premium interior accents
•Driver & front passenger seatback pockets
and, of course, here's their disclaimer....
"We try to present information that is complete and accurate. However, as the possibility for data error exists, the information listed on this site may be incorrect and is not guaranteed".
Where do they draw the line? Could they install vinyl seats instead of leather? Could they install a 4 speed tranny and not the advertised 5? You could be paying more $ for something "heavy duty" or "sport suspension" or numerous other items, how are we as consumers suppose to verify we are getting what we are paying for?
Mrbill
Good, question. Actually it doesn't. I'm looking at my window sticker and the sales brochure, and numerous items in the brochure do not appear on the window sticker.
As examples, The interior ambient console light, lock able glove box with light, dual illuminated vanity mirrors, rear window defroster, tachometer, and other features and numerous safety items are not shown on the sticker. Maybe the list would be too long to fit, but again, how do we verify what is there and what isn't.
When I research on what new car I would or would not be interested in, I do look at the options in the brochures. I would be more then a little P-Od if items were missing on my car I decided to buy. At least for my 04, it appears I got what was in the brochure.
Mrbill
I do think before you buy a car, you should get a list of every option the car does, or does not have. I wonder if a dealership would give you such a list, if you asked for it? Unfortunately, they would probably have to pass a law to make it happen, and for it to be legally binding..
Check out Honda's website and build one: Build your Accord Sedan
Same with the coupe, although you can get a manual with the V6.
Sad day indeed.
I'm only speaking for myself, but this type of under-the-table business approach makes ne uneasy.
Almost as uneasy as Toyota trying to hide all their defects. LOL! :confuse:
The 7th gen V6 Sedan didn't have a manual until 06 (the 03-05 V6 Sedan didn't), so maybe the 2011 V6 Sedan will have the 6 speed.
Knowing the Gen 7 history, I was hoping for that but with the current trend of leaving them off the higher trimlines, I highly doubt it. It would also mean dropping the VCM in the V6 and I don't see that happening either. I wouldn't mind being wrong in this case though.
With the 5MT versions of the Accord EX-L 2.4 4-door and LX-P 4-door being discontinued this year, the chances of them adding to a V6 model are almost nonexistent. Even worse, the Accord isn't the only Honda model that had some trim levels lose the MT option! The Civic EX-L Coupe & Sedan (with or w/o Nav) and the Civic EX Coupe & Sedan w/ Nav are now automatic-only. The Fit Sport w/ Nav is also automatic-only...
The only way to get a manual transmission and navigation system in the same car is the Civic Si Coupe & Sedan or Accord EX-L V6 Coupe. The only way to get manual transmission and leather in the same car is in the Accord EX-L V6 Coupe with or w/o Nav...
I'm currently in the market for a new vehicle and have the 2010 Honda Accord on my list of cars to consider.
Before test-driving, I was wondering how you feel about the 2 four-cylinder models. I've always read how refined the 4-cylinder is on previous Accords, but one thing that surprised me was that a couple of reviews said how loud the 177 hp version is and that the 190 hp version is considerably more refined.
Power is no issue for me, but is the base 4 cylinder really not as refined as it was in the last generation Accord? I was just curious since I don't think I have the budget to step up to the EX to get the 190 hp version.
Thanks!
I have rode in it a few times and can truthfully say during cruising and light acceleration it is just as refined if not more than my 160hp 2003 model.
Only under hard acceleration does it sound slightly less refined than the previous generation 4.
My second Honda was a 2008 Accord EX coupe with the 190hp engine, and as the reviews state it is a bit more refined, but not enough to justify the price increase in my opinion.
Give them both a try and I think you'll agree... Good luck!
There are two trim levels that come with the 177hp engine- the LX and LX-P (P=Premium). The LX-P adds the following features to the standard LX model:
16" alloy wheels (base LX has 16" steel wheels with plastic wheel covers)
Security system
8-way Power Driver's Seat
Chrome exhaust tip finisher
Auto Up/Down for Driver & Passenger Windows
Illuminated Window Switches
The LX-P is priced $1,000 above the regular LX model with automatic transmission. It's well worth it, in my personal opinion! The wheels look much nicer than the standard plastic wheel covers and the security system will get you a discounted insurance rate with most major insurance companies. The power seat and other minor upgrades are also nice features.
I also suggest taking a look at the following competitors before making a final decision-
2010 Mazda6 i Touring
2010 Ford Fusion SE 4-cylinder
2010 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium 4-door
2010 Hyundai Sonata Limited 2.4L
2011 Hyundai Sonata GLS
They are all very competitive and currently sell for significantly less than the Accord LX-P and/or they have more features & better warranty coverage! For example, both Hyundai Sonata models have a 60-month/60,000-mile Basic Warranty, 10-year/100,000-mile Powertrain Warranty & 5-year/Unlimited mileage roadside assistance. The Accord has 3-year/36,000-mile Basic and 5-year/60,000-mile Powertrain coverage. The 2010 Sonata Limited has Heated, leather seats, Infinity 7-speaker/6CD/360W audio system, Moonroof, 17" alloy wheels, automatic climate control and gets slightly better highway mileage than the Accord.
You can't go wrong with Accord, but it's wise to explore all your options before making a final decision. Note- the Accord will have a higher residual value than any of the cars above (or any other mid-size, for that matter). If you don't plan to keep the car for at least three or more years, the Accord will retain the highest percentage of original value...
I don't know what a "Honda Genuine accessory nose mask" is, and where to find it. The recall letter does not specify.
Please help. Thanks
And igozoomzoom, great minds must think alike because the other two cars I'm looking at are on your list- the 2010 Ford Fusion SE 4 cylinder (with Sync) and the 2011 Hyundai Sonata GLS 4 cylinder. I'll probably keep the car for four years at most, so resale may be fairly important, but Hyundai's warranty may tip the balance in its favor in the end. I guess I'll see what I think after the test drives.
Again, thanks for the input. I'll have to post my review in the midsize thread when I get a chance to test drive the cars.
You can look at the accessories on Honda's website or see it on HandA's site at the link below. It is a vinyl covering that fits over the front of the car. You may have seen them referred to as bras.
Nose Mask on HaA
Accords do not come with spoilers. Of course, you are buying one without so I'm guessing that is obvious.
You can have your dealer install one. They have two kinds: A wing and deck lid version. You can check them out here (and the previous poster can also see the nose mask at the same link): Accord Sedan Accessories
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I appreciate your help.
To answer your question, as a new 2010 Accord EX-L 6-speed coupe owner, no, frustratingly there is no USB port on the 2010 models. Only an AUX port in the center console, which is just a bizarre omission to me. The Fit, Honda's cheapest model gets a USB port, but the Accord EX-L which is the flagship model in the Accord line doesn't? I have no answer for that one.
Thanks for the help!
The answer is to have your new Accord insulated with a material like Dynamat (do a Google search) or a similar product. This is what car stereo stores use to insulate vehicles when a big sound system is installed. The cost of labor will far exceed the cost of the materials though, as the car interior needs to be almost completely stripped out--the material installed--and then the interior reassembled. Many, many hours of labor if you pay someone to do it.
I had some Dynamat left over from a partial install I did on a Honda Element a couple of years ago. The Element is also a horribly noisy vehicle. I removed the Accord's rear seat bottom cushion (no easy job) and stuck the Dynamat on the floor under the seat, where Honda put virtually no sound insulation/deadener at all. I also stuck some under the rear seat carpeting since I had access to that area with the cushion removed. Still having a bit left, I removed the trunk liner in the center of the trunk and the spare tire and completely covered the spare tire well and all other accessible sheet metal I could get to. Again, Honda did not apply any insulation in the trunk area at all. It's no wonder the car was noisy. All this took about three (3) hours to do, and is only a small fraction of the car that could be done.
The result? The Dynamat reduced the noise to a tolerable level. Perfect? Heck no, but a lot better than it was. I'm sure with another $150 worth of Dynamat and several days of work, I could quiet the car down to the level of a Lexus or Acura. The inside of the doors and the rest of the floor need to be done, which means removal of the front seats and all the carpet--a MAJOR job indeed.
My guess is that it would cost at least $1000 to have a stereo shop do the work, maybe a bit less, or a whole lot more. And, this may affect the warranty if it could be claimed that installation of the material caused some failure to occur.
Maybe it would be easier to simply look for a quieter car. We like our Accord, but it's unlikely we would ever buy another one.
The Accords are a very good car, but will pass for now.
Thanks,
rt4