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mike
However, $2000.00 is a pretty sad amount. What are we supposed to buy with that?
Got my letter from Honda...still need to make my appointment. My frame was replaced this past summer by my husband and son. It was featured on a local TV station, investigative reporter, which was cool. I think they want to continue the story and see what happens when I take the Passport into the garage for the undercoating "preventative" and the extra brackets. We have saved 1/4 of the old frame, with the serial # on it for documentation, and that will be coming with me.
Really waiting to see how this all plays out for the 144,000 - 188,000 affected Rodeo and Passport owners. The saddest thing is the number of people who got tired of waiting and junked their vehicles and now have nothing left. For them, the $2000.00 would be a Godsend towards their new car payments.
Once again, thanks to our host, Steve-O for staying with us while this all played out, over the past 2-3 years, Edmunds was a big part of helping the owners get together and push this recall through. That and the facebook forum, both reached people that otherwise might not have been made aware that they were not alone in this rusted frame problem.
It is a sad state of affairs....The recall has been made - but the issues remain - the companies doing the repair are in mass confusion and do not have the forms or the fixes to take care of this - In many cases they are at a loss. Isuzu denied to me two years ago that they had issues.....that it was all nonsense....guess they should have looked a little closer and got a head start...
We have a review appointment next week to see if the frame work welding was done correctly and if it was then we can process a claim for the welding - the car is in good shape - aside from the frame issue - now repaired - so if you can get it welded completely for $2000. and Isuzu picks up the tab....that may be the way to go....worked well for us
Now I am told that they will give me $1500 , the cost of installing the bracket, in return for my signing it over to them so they can destroy it ? They are not offering to buy it back from me, So why would I sign it over to them. I feel that there is alot of value left in my car that they are not alowing me to recover. I am currently on hold to let them know that I will sign a release stating that I acknowledge the car to be unsafe for use but I want the car back in my yard as even scrap value is better than nothing !
and I can use alot of the other parts for other projects. I feel otherwise I should be paid fair market value for the surrender of my car for them to destroy.
The person I spoke with told me that he saw pictures of my frame and that there is obvious rust holes in the frame that should have been noticed before. I told him again that the holes thru the frame were not there until the welding shop started to look for good metal. When this happened he showed me sections that looked pretty solid, after a few light taps of a hammer it would just crumble away ! I feel this is just an extention of the recalled issue and I am surprised at the way they are acting about it.
I dont know how everyone else feels about it but I paid alot more for my rodeo and would like to atleast be allowed to try and recover some of my money. I am not sure what will happen but I will repost when someone answers the phone.....
uuggghhhh.... :mad:
It's sad that this is what I had waited for ? after being told in october they would buy it back at "fair market value" if it was not repairable ?
Maybe he thought I had a pasport in october ?
total pita... :mad:
fyi
Going to call the dealer we purchased it from and get my appointment set up...I will keep you informed. As mine is drivable due to the frame swap, I am hoping I don't get jerked around. Keep you posted! Unfortunately, the ABS and air bag lights have remained on, despite being to a garage to reset the codes. Hopefully, Honda will do that for us at no charge.
Too bad they won't reimburse us for medical bills. The tranny and engine fell on my son's hand/thumb during the frame swap process, and he ended up with 3 surgeries, 6 pins and wire wrapped around the remaining bones. 50% loss of his thumb movement (of course, on first glance, they were going to amputate). He had such a bad crush injury that the bones shattered into unusable splinters. $29,000 medical bills. We were fortunate that the Hand Center in Louisville is only 20 minutes away, otherwise the outcome would have been drastically difference and much much worse. Thank goodness for insurance, but still, it cost us around $10,000. Wish we never replaced the frame. I would have loved to have the Passport towed in to Honda and stood there to see what they thought of the frame that has been denied as being as issue for 2 years now. Of course, I was the first to complain (ha ha ha ha!), and they had not hear of any complaints before or after mine (another ha ha).
I think a class action law suit would be a great idea...but what lawyer or law firm wants to take on a corporation as big as Honda America? Would be great if we could find one. Toyota bought back the Tacomas affected by the same frame rust issue (manufactured both our frames and the Tacoma frames), can't understand why Honda won't do the same. Of course, they put their badge on an Isuzu, it never was a Honda.
but the parts were made in Japan and China. I think we could find a good lawyer if we all sign up together and/or get NHTSA to go after the real issue here of a rotten frame not rear brackets. I have spoken with Derek from NHTSA many times He was supposed to call me today . I think if we push the issue they may go after the frame instead of the brackets thats not was not the whole issue here.
I have been on the phone several times and would like to just take the $1500 but I feel that they are not going to be able to secue the link to the frame.... I have not given the go ahead yet. I am in if anyone needs more pictures or a statement... or witness.... I may go down and make a video of my frame and the "area" the recall is speaking of... because the bracket is not the issue ! :mad:
You need to file with Isuzu and NHTSA concerning your vehicle, and once you get your recall letter, take it to your local dealer who handles Isuzu's. Take your receipts for the welding, you probably will get reimbursed, good luck!
at Isuzu in the ca office That he inspected my Rodeo by pictures set to him by the dealer and my isuzu could be fixed with the brackets and would be ok I told him to take his family on a test drive for a few months after it is fixed
the whole frame is rotted out I had one auto body shop refuse to put it up on the lift.
So I call Isuzu consumer affairs and talk to a guy named Jim. I asked for his full name but he would only give me his first name. So I tell him what I was told about my vehicle and he asked me to stay on the line while he called the mechanic that has my car. After he comes back online he tell me that he told the mechanic to go back outside to see if the trailining arm on my car can be repaired. I told him the machanic already said it was rusted so bad he refused to fix it! So Jim proceeds to tell me that he chewed the machanic out for telling me this! Because the recall only covers the trailing arm not the frame! I said it can't be fixed! I've had 4 other mechanics look at it! Then Jim says to me you need to watch what you say because you would be suprised how many we have fixed and it worked out great! WTH??? He said let's give him a chance to look at it again first then we will go from there!Because the mechanic was confused about the recall! Ohhhh ok so this Jim yells at this mechanic for telling me the truth! And is making him go back outside to try and preform a miracle!
ok so I'm thinking they will fix it as it is, I will get it back and it will sit in my driveway for another year! Because I will fight them on this! I will not drive this death trap! Class action law suit coming! Stay tuned!
Owner Relations Department
13340 183rd Street
Cerritos, CA 90702-6007
Toll free: 1-800-255-6727
Fax: 562-229-5455
E-mail: info@isuzu.com
Web site: www.isuzu.com
This is where I called and talked to Jim
Search Results: Total items: 16
Name Description Size (KB)
RCONL-10V436-9090.pdf Owner Notification Letter(Part 577) - Honda's notice to owners of vehicle more that 10 years old 234
RCMN-10V436-0099.pdf Isuzu - Manufacturer Notices(to Dealers,etc) 764
RCRIT-10V436-0099.pdf Isuzu - Remedy Instructions and TSB 1426
RCMN-10V436-1234.pdf Honda's Manufacturer Notices(to Dealers,etc) 16
RCRIT-10V436-1234.pdf Honda's Remedy Instructions and TSB 2318
RCONL-10V436-1234.pdf Honda's Owner Notification Letter(Part 577) 21
RCONL-10V436-7789.pdf Owner Notification Letter(Part 577) 76
RCRIT-10V436-0234.pdf Remedy Instructions and TSB 2343
RCMN-10V436-3456.pdf Manufacturer Notices(to Dealers,etc) - Honda - October 26, 2010 28
RCRIT-10V436-3495.pdf Remedy Instructions and TSB - Honda's pre-recall inspection 118
RCORRD-10V436-8744.pdf Vin Range Vehicles 46
RCDNN-10V436-2927.pdf Amended Defect Notice(Part 573) 44
RCMN-10V436-2671.pdf Manufacturer Notices(to Dealers,etc) 233
RCMN-10V436-4814.pdf Honda Manufacturer Notices(to Dealers,etc) 16
RCAK-10V436-9651.pdf Recall Acknowledgement 31
RCDNN-10V436-5281.pdf Defect Notice(Part 573) 379
These pdf files are very interesting, and do include photo repairs from stage 1 - stage 4, although of interest, the vehicles shown being repaired are no where near what our vehicles are as far as stages of rust.
Click on the following link or copy and paste, and it will take you to the above pdf files, from NHTSA.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/documentList.do?docId=10V436&docType=RCL&fromP- ublic=true
So, copy and paste and read everything...M
forward them to the Mass Attorney Generals office, too.
Took 1999 Rodeo LS to Peters of Nashua. It is a "Stage 4". I knew it. I've done work on a frame of the car over the past 2 years. My 1966 Mustang frame, that I've restored 7 years ago, looked 1000 times better!!!!!
Frame is decomposing!!!! You cannot weld to rust - simple as that.
I don't think that we are going to get much out of Isuzu unless somebody will get killed in their truck, God forbid.
If nothing else, I feel obligated to get Isuzu out of the US completely. If all of us join our efforts in putting Isuzu out of business that would be satisfactory to me.
So, how many NOT SO HAPPY people are out there?
I am one.