Edmunds dealer partner, Bayway Leasing, is now offering transparent lease deals via these forums. Click here to see the latest vehicles!
2010 Toyota Highlander
This discussion has been closed.
Popular New Cars
Popular Used Sedans
Popular Used SUVs
Popular Used Pickup Trucks
Popular Used Hatchbacks
Popular Used Minivans
Popular Used Coupes
Popular Used Wagons
Comments
be delivered to the dealerships?
I have been given several dates?
What is a good price for a limited
with nav. & Dvd
Thank you, Joe
Total cash out of pocket was my 1st mo payment of $509.
The thing that made it work was that I 'traded' my current lease which had low miles. I suppose they felt they could make a few extra bucks by selling it for more than my residual. Had I turned in the current lease, I would not have netted anything.
This was a dealership in NC.
I had a 2009 Camry that I bought in a haste - great car - but I needed the AWD badly since I live in PA. I didn't do too bad due to interest rates and current deals available - it really helped absorb my negative equity.
Or is the problem that Toyota itself not clear what is on the HL?
Does this 'one-wheel-drive' (I take it that's your tongue-in-cheek wording) mean that if the vehicle has ice under three wheels, its not going anywhere, or, it will move once the traction control starts grabbing the disk brakes on the spinning tires?
I have a 2002 Subaru Forester 'S' automatic with viscous fluid limited slip rear differential, I was looking to get more space for the family. Not sure about current Subies, but with the automatic 2002, most of the power is going to the front wheels, and when they slip in the snow I hear a clunk and then the car takes off. Never been stuck on the street. I never got around to figuring out what gives between the two front wheels on this car, or if the present Subies are better.
Now add two more of those simple open diff'ls, one in front and one in center.
Same as with the OLD RWD, one-wheel slip/spins, thereby limiting engine torque, severely so, the other wheels remaining with traction get an equal level of engine torque, but....
TC, Traction Control, is used to hopefully alleviate the above circumstance. The activation of TC will be INSTANTANEOUS and COMPLETE upon detection of wheelspin, applying braking to the slipping wheel(s) and dethrottling the engine down to idle or closely nearby. Absent the dethrottling there might be a threat of rotor overheating and later warpage.
And remember that this is a "base" FWD vehicle and therefore it is more likely than otherwise that it will be a front driven wheel that first slips/spins. Loss of traction on the front wheels is considered a really serious matter so TC activation MUST be INSTANT and COMPLETE otherwise the threat of loss of directional control would be highly probable.
You can think of the new Venza F/awd system as a programmable VC. Anytime there is a threat of loss of traction, mostly during acceleration, even acceleration while turning, the "VC" will be tightened up in order to distribute some of the high torque of/for acceleration to the rear. It is my understanding that the harder you accelerate, at least at lower speeds, the tighter the rear coupling is adjusted.
But again, since this is, remains, and always will be a base FWD vehicle the threat of loss of directional control due to front driven wheel slip/spin must be considered to be potentially so very HAZARDOUS that TC activation will remain INSTANT and COMPLETE even though the rear drive will also be coupled in at the same time.
Hopefully once the HL is adapted for this new system a manual engagement switch will be provided.
But I wouldn't place any bets on that.
In spades...!
Toyota makes it quite clear as to when their F/awd system works.
"..ice under three wheels.."
No only one wheel need be "tractionless" and the HL will/can/might be STUCK. In some instances the activation of TC will get you moving but there have been enough cases otherwise, and the appropriate public outcry, that the current HL system has a TC disable capability.
Is/was this with a FWD or with AWD? Cuz I have a bad feeling you are telling me its with the AWD too. In other words, what I have right now I will loose if I trade in the Forester on a HL.
.... current HL system has a TC disable capability ...
Must have missed that on the test drive, where is it (if you don't mind)?
Since TC prevents any and all VC capability the TC fluid formulation for my '01 was changed so the VC remains forever flaccid. The VC was eliminated entirely for the RX330 model run and more likely than otherwise the RX350.
The latest model RWD I have driven with TC was a 2000 GS300. With the GS TC was just as agressive insofar as braking the rear drive wheels but has a significant delay in dethrottling the engine. Loss of traction due to wheelspin/slip is not nearly as potentially hazardous as with FWD and F/awd vehicle as the driver remain with FULL direction control. That braking delay also gives the driver a chance to react and "feather" the throttle.
Don't know the location without referring to techinfo.toyota.com but I'm sure the saleperson will advise if asked. The PB, Push-Button is first used to disable TC and then once TC has been disabled a second push will disable VSC.
More space..??
The 2011 Sienna, coming in February, will have the new Venza F/awd system. The 2010 RX350 already has the new Venza system AND has a switch to engage the rear drive manually.
So far only the Venza is available with the new I4 engine and the new F/awd system. I'm hoping the Sienna will be made available with the I4 and the new F/awd system once the I4 is upgraded to DFI...and maybe Toyota's new e/VVT-i (EXTENDED/VVT-i) system.
The e/VVT-i system is being used in the current HSD (Hybrid Synergy Drive) vehicles to change the engine from Otto mode to the Atkinson cycle mode. HIGH compression mode for light to moderate engine loading (partial cylinder filling), then a lower CR for high engine loading, WOT.
With DFI and e/VVT-i the CR could be 15-16:1 in Otto mode, and lowered to the DFI "standard" of 12:1 with WOT.
Gotcha on the Venza, I am considering that car too. Full size spare. Have other issues with it.
Even if you immediately replaced the RFT's with something more acceptable what would be the cost vs risking a base FWD..??
I just put 4 good tires, quiet and comfortably riding, on a '95 LS400 for under $400.
I don't know if I would want a mini-van with a four cylinder engine. Unless I was given it free I suppose.
Duty calls, I'll check back here tomorrow.
The Venza I4 has 187HP, roughly equal to the 190HP the V6 produced for my HEAVY '92 Jeep Cherokee Limited. With DFI it would probably reach 200HP easily. And with e/VVT-i another 5MPG hwy.
I've been spending my time checking out the new 4Runner on line - I need to take a test drive and sit in the back seat. I don't really care for the center second row seating in the HL.
Keep that in mind about the I4 Venza. I think it costs some $2000 less or is it 2500 or is it 2500 between the Outback 4 and Outback 6, can't remember.
This SUV has been my favorite Toyota ever, and I have had many. The quiet, smooth ride is by far better than many other that I tried.
We recently had one of the worst snow storms in Va in many years, and the Highlander went terrific through the ice and snow covered roads during one of the worst times of the storm. It did not slip or slide one time and got me through a very bad situation. Sorry you feel the way you do, and I hope things improve for you. I simply LOVE THIS SUV, and plan to have it a long time.
You can count on at least 1 quart per hour of fuel usage while idling and, yes, it can add up!
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
Additionally when I drive to my beach place in South Carolina over the winter months the mileage returns to normal once I leave teh blended fuel behind. I always leave with 1/2 a tank or less to take advantage of the lower prices in Va. and resultant better gas mileage that the fuel mix provides me.
Strange thing though, it was MADE IN JAPAN according to the dealer and the VIN. I think I'll keep it.
Are they having problems getting rolling at the U.S. plant?
John
Good point!
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
The metal plate on the inside frame of the driver's front door states that my 2010 Limited (purchased 12-23-09) was built in Indiana.
Mine starts with J. Yours should begin with a 1, 4 or a 5, but I think I've only seen 5's recently while looking at Highlanders, but I'm not in the business.
"North America 1 - 5
1A-10 United States
2A-20 Canada
3A-3W Mexico
3X-37 Costa Rica
38-30 not assigned
4A-40 United States
5A-50 United States "
www.angelfire.com/ca/TORONTO/VIN/WMI.html
John
Winter blend and excessive idling were already offered as alternative causes of poor gas mileage.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
Winter blend and excessive idling were already offered as alternative causes of poor gas mileage.
So now we're up to winter blend, excessive idling, driving habits, possible tire inflation and a new engine that's not fully broken in just yet. I believe the reader has his/her answer about mileage that's sure to get better with time.
What do you think....is it worth buying the warranty? I plan to keep the vehicle for 8-10 years.
Driving habits has a lot to do with gas milage.
2010 AWD Limited
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
I looked up my paperwork and found that I had paid $1100 dollars for the warranty. But it saved me $5000 for a new transmission. Well worth it, in my case.
I got 22.8 mpg on my first tank; the sales guy said he filled it up, but maybe it was a little short. The first 60 miles were inner city and a little suburban and in-town highway. Friday was my first extended period on the Interstate and I was very impressed with the ride, handling and gas mileage. Richmond to Charlottesville is rolling country and then across the mountain at the southern end of Shenandoah National Park and into the Valley. The last 25 miles of the trip is north on I-81. Nothing like rolling hills and heavy semi traffic to make you punch the gas and go around them in a hurry.
To give you an idea of my driving style, I've been driving an '06 Avalon XLS for almost 3 years and making this 260-mi. round-trip drive every Friday to have lunch with my father. I consistently got 27.5 mpg with the Avalon by setting the cruise on 72 and trying to keep it under 80 when passing.
I really tried to baby the HL on Friday and didn't use the cruise and didn't do much hard accelerating at all. OTOH, it won't break in properly if all it ever does is idle either. Anybody know what the top speed on an awd Limited is? The '06 Avalon was listed at 138 mph.
I know I've had it a week, but I just got it back Thursday night with the XM receiver installed and now I'm enthused.
John
My Question is simply: What is the clarity of calls using your cell phone through the 2010 Highlander Hands Free System?
I have not yet set my cell phone up on the 2010 Highlander Limited I purchased just before Xmas.