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I thought I might save a little money by ordering it from the local shop, and I never checked with the Toyota dealer.
Or what does the + mean.
It hard to imagine that you are getting that low. At that speed I got around 32 on the road consistently from the very start.
I just did a trip to Vermont, and averaged 29.85 MPG, (501 miles to the tank) and this was pretty much a round trip with very little stopping. Some hills, mostly highway with 2 adults. 4000 miles on the car at this time.
Now this is about 100 +- better then the last few tanks of gas, so a nice improvement and pretty much right where it's suppose to be.
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I drive like this will be my last car I ever buy. It very well might be too. I have nearly 9000 miles on it and love the ride. Love the MPG for such a big car. Love the drive and all the options. I did not get the nav. system but my daughter bought me a small one to use. We've owned the car almost a year now. (I think that's right)
I get around 24 mpg and that's city/hwy driving. I live in the city but it's in the country. On the road we've got as good as 31 or maybe 32, (that's about right), I'm sure we never got 33. I believe 28 or 29 MPG on the HWY would be my average. Always two people on the road. Always carrying a lot of things too. :^) I log every fill up, every oil change, EVERYTHING.
I try not to jack rabbit start but can't help occasionally blowing off a very surprised BMW driver. : )
MY MPG varies a lot, depending on my driving habits. I checked on my last long distant trip and got about 28-29 MPG on the HWY. Driving normal speeds. Around 80 or less.
My car computer is always off by 2 MPG, showing I'm getting better than I really am.
I have nearly 10 thousand miles on my car. Still runs good and no road noise and NO squeaks what so ever. NO problems to speak of. I do have a slight wiper problem everyone has talked about. I found out if you slow your wipers down it's almost stops. I think a lot of that depends on how hard it's raining. My wipers skip a little only when it's barley raining. NEVER on a hard rain. I don't believe there's anything wrong with the wiper arm.
I reset my computer on the MPG every time and I'm still 2 miles off per gallon every fill up, no matter what I'm always off that 2 MPG. I hope the MPG people are posting is NOT what the computer says.
IS there anyway to adjust the computer settings? Anyone!
I'm guessing they will never make the Avalon rear wheel drive. I say this because if you wanted rear wheel drive then move up the Lexus. I THINK all of them are rear wheel drive but I'm not really sure.
Inflate the tires "properly"...?
The ES350 and RX350 are FWD like the Avalon (The RX having f/AWD available). Those vehicles also share many components with the Avalon. The GS/LS/IS sedans are RWD.
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OK so I am saying that I dislike NAFTA, but then I purchased an Avalon Limited. Well that had nothing to do with NAFTA. The last Domestic Brand sedan I had was purchased pre-Nafta an '87. After countless window regulators, alignment issues, overheating, several engine control parts breaking, A/C going out on trips, A/C compressor self- destructing to the point the vehicle had to be towed (serpentine drive belt), all before 60 thousand miles, I was fed up. Because the one before that - an '82 - did the same general things. And I do not beat my cars either. At that time, it seemed the Japanese big 3 did not have those issues. So I jumped ship so to speak, straight to the Nissan dealer - sorry I am as patriotic as the next person but I just did not need the aggravations.
Now I just prefer Nissan / Toyota because it is what I have personally had the best luck with most recently. Some just happen to be made in US. We still have the '95 Altima, made in the US, over 100K miles, just has required a water pump and some hoses, drives great to this day and the A/C works too. I had an '07 Camry before the Avalon. Honestly it seemed a bit cheaped out in some interior fitments - but zero mechanical problems for me - nothing ever broke. Four-banger, and it performed very well too - about as expected. Sold it for almost half what I paid for it. My wife had a '05 Nissan X-Trail (outside US 4X4 model) - in 5 years, replaced an oxygen sensor. Sold it for more than half what I paid for it. I even owned a '00 Daewoo for 2 years - it never broke. Once I thought it broke - turns out it was a shot of bad gas. Awesome A/C.
All indications are the Avalon is pretty well sorted too. Time will tell of course. My wife has nicknamed the Avalon the "Cloud". What a sweet ride. I delivers on it's promises so far.
I never got too upset about the gas pedal fiasco - I am old enough to remember Audi had the same thing happen in the mid-80's.
Im am also old enough to remember that in the 60's Chevy had a batch of defective engine mounts that could snap on a hard shock, engine would be free to twist and then pull/jam the throttle linkage full-on. Happened to many cops when they jumped curbs or hit a bump hard in the course of pursuit. Can you imagine going to uncontrolled full throttle with a police package 409 or 427? The interim solution was to add a safety cable to the engine mounts as a back-up - something already well known to racers. OK it was probably a bad design and accident waiting to happen and I know GM was pinching pennies and perhaps could have prevented it from happening. Perhaps. By that is life and we are humans motivated by factors that sometimes conflict. Witness the shuttle O-rings.
In 15 or 20 years it will happen again to some other car company. And it will be new news and everybody will forget and the press will not mention Toyota and Audi and Chevy. That is how it goes.
Only one way to totally totally stop these unfortunate happenings really - stop driving, stop flying, stop sailing, etc.
Or, try this: Stay sober, stay focused and situationally aware when operating a powerful and potentially dangerous mechanical device such as a table saw or car, read the owners manual in detail, anticipate emergencies like a pilot, practice an emergency stop once in a while to maybe learn the feel of the anti-lock peddle vibration so it doesn't freak one out, and do not allow passengers to ride without fastening their seat belts. Oh gee, am I talking about responsibility here?
But I will still consider an American brand car especially if the reliability statistics are at least par - which brings me to the Avalon - actually I really wanted a Town Car, but it just would not fit in our garage properly. I was wanting to get a TC before they went away, and would have taken a chance on it but for that issue. I always rent TCs or Grand Marquis when traveling out of town and love them. But the Avalon fits the garage, has a superior electronics package, and is the closest I could find to a TC/GM in general driving characteristics at the price point. To me it seems like a 6/8 scale model TC.
Avalon just doesn't have that awesome TC long hood sticking out a half light year into the future!
Enough of my rant I apologize, I just get riled whenever I see or hear that 5-letter acronym N*F*A!!
Cheers and good luck with Avalon's (and Town Cars)!
I hope not.
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Personally, I think NAFTA should be haulted, completely. I would LOVE to buy a competely made American car. (like one of the old Dodges I owned) I think we should all buy American made products. There should be a saying, "if your going to sell it here then you should build it here". Diana Sawyers said if every American bought an American product that cost a mer $3.33, then in turn it would put 10 thousand Americans to work. We did our part last week. We bought a $10 dollar, competley made, American plastic basket at Target.
Nick name "Cloud" is perfect for this car. Suits the car to a T.
Mileage reductions are also a function of speed as it relates to air resistance. Doubling the auto speed means four times the air to push out of the way... it's exponential... this is meaningful beyond about 75 mph in a car, you are right that at 80 mph the air you push is burning your fuel more quickly, not the distance covered. Enjoy your Avalon... great cars..
I know there was a lot of discussion on this problem sometime ago but I was wondering if anyone has been able to have it corrected by the dealer?
This really is a safety issue. I didn't really notice it unitl after I had several hundred miles on the car, and then it was too late to tell the dealer I didn't want it. I'm taking it in to the service department next week to determine (1) if the speedometer needle is too short and needs to be replaced (2) if the tips of the needles should be liighted and (3) if the inistrument panel light can be increased/intensified.
I can't find the prior post on this subject mentioned in another reply to your posting.l
Has anyone else had this problem?
Thanks.
I did like the guide lines that show up in the mirror when backing up, but I ended up with a limited with nav and all the other options:)
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I know you're not suppose to use it for backing but I really have to force myself to not use it 100% when backing. I remember to turn and look but I usually don't.
Yes, it disappears when you shift out of reverse.
When I pulled into the garage I notice a ticking in my engine. My garage is quite and this noise can easy be spotted in a quite garage. I cut the engine off and then I checked the oil. To my surprise there was barley any oil on the dip stick. I was shocked. The ticking is NOT loud enough to hear in the car because of all the insulation but in my garage you could hear the ticking. Any tips out there on this. What should I do?
I know to check the engine oil after a oil change. I should have but being cripple I didn't. I just trusted my dealer. I called my dealer first thing after my return trip. I left a message and I am quite upset. Is it out of line to have them change the oil again? To perhaps put synthetic oil in? Can this harm the engine? I am REALLY upset because some lazy tech didn't do his job right. I hate the word fire but I paid 36 thousand dollars for this car and paid CASH. Any tips please advise.
If the car is over a quart low the oil should definitely be changed. Whatever oil is in the car has worked harder and got hotter than it normally would have. No, it would be out of line to ask or even demand that the dealer change the oil.
I would advise against synthetic oil since you didn't start with this.
If the ticking is still there after filling with fresh oil then you have a serious problem.
I'm not sure what Toyota (I'm talking headquarters here) will do but I would definitely get this on record with then. That way if you have problems down the road then you have a record of what happened. You can call then and they will take all the information and ask you what you how you would like to have this fixed. They will call the dealer and he will get back to you. I speak from experience on this one.
Mine fell on the highway and came apart. The case got destroyed but the printed circuit board was ok. I tried to order just the case but they said that wasn't an option.
Ouch, if it happens again there are always replacements on Ebay MUCH cheaper.
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The Dealer did call and assured me it was NOT their habit to do this. They also assured me they was looking up the tech who changed my oil.
Oil refills below capacity have happened many times with this generation of Avalon but damage claim numbers are minimal. Still, check out what happened and be satisfied... you never know...
The clicking noise was there. I could hear it clearly in the garage. Now I can't. I assume I drove the car a little harder than normal on the way home. There is no clicking sound now. I only heard it the one time.
I think I should change to synthetic oil. Any thoughts on this. I could really feel the heat from the engine but no lights came on at all. Someone said it's a bad time to change to synthetic oil. Any thoughts on this?
We all have the two year agreement, maintaince free. I've owned my Avalon for over a year now with 10 thousand miles on it. So I think I will switch next oild change.
Thanks for the advice.
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Off the top of my head a couple of issues come to mind.
Speedometer. Probably not the best vision but I really have a problem seeing 55, 65,75, etc. I think part of the problem is that 80 is at top, which I'm not used too and units of 20 between numbers instead of 10. If they had left off the 120 mph to 160 mph there would have been a lot of room to improve the speedometer.
Temperature. Really hate to have to go through the dash menu everytime I want to see the temp. Could be real easy to put in mirror or radio screen.
Keyless entry. Really dislike not being able to leave my car running and lock the door. We have some really cold weather and it's nice to be able to let the car warm up with the doors locked.
Last is the power supply at the bottom of the storage box. There is no grove to run cords through.
I realize these are minor issues and I really like my car but unless they are changed I would have to think a long time before I purchased another Avalon.
Curious if others have the same or different issues.