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2010 Ford Fusion Brakes

koho955koho955 Member Posts: 97
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I own a 2010 Ford Fusion SEL with about 3,000 miles on it. I always noticed the brakes feel funny when releasing them at a light or stop sign on days when it's raining and the brakes are wet. Yesterday a car pulled out in front of me and I had to slam on my brakes. It was a sunny day with dry pavement. I had that pedal to the floor and the brakes did not lock up or pulse from the anti-lock braking system. I didn't think I would be able to stop in time but did. The braking distance for me to stop a car going 25-30 MPH was huge with no tire squeal. Made me very nervous and I'm having the brakes checked soon!
Has anyone else out there with a 2010 Fusion had this problem?
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  • xmechxmech Member Posts: 90
    Hmm.. Haven't noticed anything funny. Had my SE since August, 8,000 miles. Does the pedal feel mushy or anything? When anti-lock kicks in, it's more of a buzz than a pulse, and while I haven't 'used' it yet on the Fusion, on a previous vehicle i owned, the pedal kept going down as the ABS buzzed. Perhaps the going-to-the-floor you encountered?
  • hackattack5hackattack5 Member Posts: 315
    I just read this today of the web news

    Software also appears to be to blame at Ford Motor Co., which said Thursday it plans to fix 17,600 Mercury Milan and Ford Fusion gas-electric hybrids because of a glitch that can give drivers the impression the brakes have failed.

    The automaker says the problem occurs in transition between two braking systems and at no time are drivers without brakes. Ford spokesman Said Deep says the company will ask owners to bring their vehicles in for a software fix that changes the pedal feel
  • smarty666smarty666 Member Posts: 1,503
    your right, it seems Toyota's aren't the only ones that have possible problems stopping when they need too, here is a link to the recall on some 17.6k Fords!


    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=9750168
  • xmechxmech Member Posts: 90
    We're getting off track. He said he has an SEL, not a hybrid.
  • koho955koho955 Member Posts: 97
    xmech...The brakes are totally normal except the one time I had to slam them on and it was kinda like when you slammed on you brakes of your ten speed and you would slowly come to a stop....no lock-up, no pulsing from the anti-lock brake system.
  • smarty666smarty666 Member Posts: 1,503
    no were not going off topic, this is a milan/fusion brake forum and that includes the regular vehicles and the hybrids

    please stop nit picking!
  • xmechxmech Member Posts: 90
    Sorry, smarty. I figured this topic was about his SEL brake problems, and I'm sure there's more than one thread about the FFH regenerative brake issue, which as I understand has little or nothing to do with standard brakes, so will be of no help solving his problem, or may even confuse matters, but that's me. Sorry for trying to help.

    And Koho, sounds like your brakes worked as advertised.
  • smarty666smarty666 Member Posts: 1,503
    hey I'm just looking at out for the consumer and making sure anyone with a hybrid knows about the recall because no matter what car you have recalls stink and any opportunity to get the car manufacture to fix something for free is worth it; they screw us over enough so paybacks a pain!
  • xmechxmech Member Posts: 90
    Well, I stopped and looked the the threads listed under "Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan", and there isn't one there about the Hybrid brake issue, so you have a good point on that issue. I frequent several Fusion forums, and I'm so used to seeing them, I assumed there would be one here, too. I'm real suprised it isn't. Maybe it's a good idea for you to post your link in an appropriately titled new thread just for the Hybrids? It might alert more people with hybrids and I'm sure they will appreciate it! :shades:
  • hackattack5hackattack5 Member Posts: 315
    Koho955:
    Let me know what the dealer says. My Fusion SEL has 3300 miles on it and the brakes seem fine even when my wife had to slam them on to miss a deer. She said it stopped fast and straight.
  • jrseykid686jrseykid686 Member Posts: 9
    YES!
    I had this problem today. 2010 Fusion SEL AWD 6500 miles on it.
    I could NOT stop from about 3 MPH on a hill coming out of the gas station. After that I took the car to about 25 MPH and slammed on the brakes (to the floor) with horrible stopping distance and absolutely no tire sequel or ABS pulsating.

    Stopping distance is about double our 2007 Fusion SEL FWD with 24000 miles... any solutions to this problem yet?? I'm VERY concerned about this seeing as how I'm a paramedic and the Fusion is my emergency vehicle...
  • xmechxmech Member Posts: 90
    Jrsykid, any more details? Rain, snow, dry? Doind this all the time? Just this one occcassion? What does your cities' vehicle maintenance dept. say about it? I assume you had to have it towed back?

    And just in case we never hear from jrsykid686 again, plz note his story seems to follow a trend I've seen lately on the Fusion Forums I follw: Amazing story, really dangerous-bad problem with Fusion yet not quite enough details to determine what really happened, extra bit to the story to make it a bigger deal. For example, in another Fusion forum, a poster in a thread about Forum traction in snow, said basically 'I was going up this snowy hill, and suddenly smoke came from the right wheel well then from under the hood, so I pulled over and the car went up in flames, lost my car, all my stuff, and my 3 year old's car seat, lucky my 3 year old wasn't in it....'. Also, this poster had 1 post in the forum... Never heard back.

    Hope this isn't the case again here, but... just saying. Mods, I guess if you have to delete my observation, do what you must. I just have to call it like I see it. I'll be suprised if we ever hear from jrsykid686 again, or if the what he adds to this makes any sense, etc.
  • hackattack5hackattack5 Member Posts: 315
    I agree with you xmech it almost sounds like a kid messing around on the internet. I see his profile has never been filled out and he has been a member for 1 day. Too bad this is happening because it takes away from the good discussions on this site.
  • jrseykid686jrseykid686 Member Posts: 9
    Wow guys... way to have no faith!

    The reason My profile isnt filled out and I'm a member for one day is because I am a member of a different forum that I cant find information about this problem with my car.

    Moving on...
    The car is currently in the shop.
    The first time it happened i was pulling out of a gas station with a steep grade, hit the brakes and could not stop before rolling into traffic. Luckily i did not get hit. The brakes were not overheated or anything. Slamming on the brakes yesterday resulted in a slow stop, with nowhere near the stopping power I should have to even come close to activating my ABS system.

    Last night the car had been parked for hours. I drove it and slammed the brakes to check, and the stopped like a champ with ABS and tire squeal. Figures...

    This morning backing out of my driveway I almost took out the neighbors mailbox becuase my sopping power was gone again. I drove it straight to the dealer and left it with them with very weak breaking power. I'll keep you updated on what they tell me later today or tomorrow.
  • jrseykid686jrseykid686 Member Posts: 9
    Update

    Dealer just called... apparently my rotors and pads were all "gummed up" with some sort of "crap" They cleaned all components of the brakes and said it works fine. They are looking into a transmission issue. The car seems to shift hard when cold.. they are researching it due to how new it is it may be normal for the car. I'll keep you updated on the brakes when I get my hands on the car again.
  • koho955koho955 Member Posts: 97
    My 2010 Fusion SEL also shifts hard when cold and it's not much better in the lower gears when warmed up.
  • jrseykid686jrseykid686 Member Posts: 9
    Mine is great once it warms up... I'll let you know if they find anything.
  • jrseykid686jrseykid686 Member Posts: 9
    Ok,

    Picked up the Fusion from the shop today... no improvement. Brakes are still very weak, service manager drove it and compared to one on the lot, mine has about 50% stopping power.

    Trans seems great now, they re programmed the trans. Tomorrow the dealer is going to be in touch with Ford Engineering to try to figure out the braking issue... i'll keep ya posted.
  • xmechxmech Member Posts: 90
    edited February 2010
    Just have to ask, this is your paramedic 'emergency vehicle'? I've always pictured paramedic vehicles are like ambulances. What are you using in the meantime? Your older Fusion?
  • jrseykid686jrseykid686 Member Posts: 9
    this is the vehicle i use to get to the ambulance which sits at the station. When a call goes out I respond in the fusion to the station to pick up the ambulance to respond to the scene. Right now the dealer gave me the sales man's demo that sold me my car. I have only owned it 3.5 weeks.
  • hackattack5hackattack5 Member Posts: 315
    "Trans seems great now, they re programmed the trans"
    Is there a TSB on the transmission? my 2010 SEL hits 2nd gear a little harsh.
    Sorry about jumping to conclusions but you were new to the forum and we are paranoid :sick:
  • jrseykid686jrseykid686 Member Posts: 9
    There is a TSB on the transmission. I can look tomorrow at the paper work and give you the TSB number if you want....
    As for the brakes, they have been cleaned and replaced... neither with has improved the problem The brakes are intermittently working great and time to time real weak. Not sure what is going on... I'm going to give it the weekend before heading back to the dealer...
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    " The brakes are intermittently working great and time to time real weak."

    That sounds more like a faulty booster or a faulty ABS computer to me.
  • jrseykid686jrseykid686 Member Posts: 9
    agreed... still no answer to solve the braking problem Its goin back this week after the snow storm... i need my AWD to plow through the 10 inches we've got comin tonight/tomorrow
  • 68jcode_stang68jcode_stang Member Posts: 5
    When I had my 2010 Fusion SE in for another warranty issue, the service consultant said that the brakes are electronically controlled and not directly connected to the booster similar to the hybrid brakes. I haven't checked into this, but if it's the case, maybe there's a programming issue for gas only Fusions that's available. I've had no brake issues with mine....yet. It may be worth asking the service people if the brake pedal is in fact not connected to the booster/master cylinder. These new cars have so much technology in them is scary.
  • 68jcode_stang68jcode_stang Member Posts: 5
    When I had my 2010 Fusion SE in for another warranty issue, the service consultant said that the brakes are electronically controlled and not directly connected to the booster similar to the hybrid brakes. I haven't checked into this, but if it's the case, maybe there's a programming issue for gas only Fusions that's available. I've had no brake issues with mine....yet. It may be worth asking the service people if the brake pedal is in fact not connected to the booster/master cylinder. These new cars have so much technology in them is scary.
  • akirbyakirby Member Posts: 8,062
    The pedal is connected to the hydraulic brakes directly if the pedal is fully depressed. You always have mechanical brakes, even on the hybrid.
  • jrseykid686jrseykid686 Member Posts: 9
    never took the fusion in... we had 10 inches of snow yesterday and i needed the AWD to get to where i was goin...

    wouldnt ya know... after the snow the brakes are working perfect. Maybe they did need a really good cleaning?? The snow was past my bumpers at times so the brakes got quite a bit of snow in them to clean them... I'll keep an eye on it.

    I must say that the AWD is amazing! i did get "stuck" once because the driver (me) backed over the snow bank about 2 feet tall... oops. I just rocked it and all 4 wheels pulled me right off the mound... amazing! Ok im done bragging now...
  • hackattack5hackattack5 Member Posts: 315
    " amazing! Ok im done bragging now"

    I am glad you still like your Fusion after the trouble you have had. Yours seems to have more trouble than most. If you do get a chance to see if there is a TSB for the transmission flash I love to know what it is. Thanks again
  • sob123sobsob123sob Member Posts: 1
    Hey I have a 2010 ford fusion se with the v6 and 9000 miles. I am having the same problem with my brakes feeling like they have 50% power most of the time and then other times they work perfect.

    Had it at the dealer and when I dropped it off I rode with a service tech to make sure he experienced the same thing I was and he agreed there was something wrong. Once they looked it over they couldnt really figure it out and made it where now it only loses braking power sometimes.

    It is still acting up and looking to take it back to the dealer.

    Did you ever get yours fixed so you had no braking problems and what was the fix?
  • fenderman2fenderman2 Member Posts: 11
    edited June 2011
    Jerseykid, have you solved the brake issue? I have the same problem with my 2011 and dealer tech agrees. A new 2011 fusion on the lot has the same issue. This not not NORMAL operation. There is not enough friction to lock the wheels so as to engage the ABS. Driving this car is dangerous. Everyone with this issue please file a complaint with the NHTSA here https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/online.cfm
    I have already filed a complaint which can be seen here http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/results.cfm?odi_ids=10407265&SearchType=- QuickSearch&summary=true&refurl=email
    Thanks
  • acdiiacdii Member Posts: 753
    I haven't had problems stopping my 2010 Sport, but did have a hanging left rear caliper. I replaced the pads with EBC pads, and this sucker STOPS!

    Only drawback of these pads is the brake dust gets all over the wheels, but I would much rather have dirty wheels and excellent brakes than clean wheels and mediocre brakes.

    I do however have similar braking problems in my Flex EB. Sometimes you step on the brake while going slow and it doesn't feel like it will stop. The pedal will also travel to the floor if you press hard enough.
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