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It did have the tan interior, but the colors did not bother me. actually resembled the interior of a BMW with the same colors.
anyway, plenty of room, but I did have to drop the seat a little (i tend to sit "tall"). fine in the back seat too.
very nice style, and great looking interior. Engine was very peppy and smooth, and tranny seemed fine. Seemed quick. some road noise, but seemed to be just tires. but not overly loud.
only thing I did not like was the seat angle. If this had a power drivers seat (or at least front/rear height adjustment) it would be about perfect. I can't stand the 1 ratchet lever height adjustment, because I can never get the cushion tilted up enough for me.
also the seat seemed to pinch a littlat at the bottom, but that could be just the way I had it adjusted. Did not really play with it. At least the cushion seemed long enough.
overall, this is a winner.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Driving impression was that of a previous generation mid-size. More than adequate power, transparent shifting with the six-speed automatic and a very quiet engine. Mileage indicated was unbelievable. At a steady 60mph freeway drive for 15 miles, 45.1mpg. This with a new engine was almost beyond belief.
This will be the one to beat in 2011. The competition, from early spy pics and guessed at specs will still be looking a bit dowdy. Time will tell.
The mpg is very good news. It looks at least 10% better than the Beta II engine, which could get 40 mpg at 55-60 mph cruising with a light foot. And the 45 mpg was on a new engine... Hyundai engines tend to get better mpg with time (maybe that's true with other makes too, but I've especially noticed it on the two Elantras I've owned).
This shows up on the exterior. It looks very "cab forward.
probably more than good enough for most buyers, since I expect that if you are regularly transporting tall adults back there, you will probably get a bigger car!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
auto or manual, and what do you or they claim it does?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
The first thing I noticed was that the lower dash did not have an orange-ish tint--not that I could notice anyway. It looked tan/camel, and matched the door panels and seat fabric quite well. I thought it looked fine. I think it shows pictures can be deceiving, also that tastes vary a lot.
The driver's seat was comfortable with firm support and good lumbar support. I had it set pretty high. The interior materials looked good to me and seemed of good quality for the class; quite a few padded surfaces including the dash top, door panels (cloth), and of course arm rests and top of center console. The only controls that were disappointing were the two concentric round knobs for fan and temperature; they seemed stiff, not silky smooth like on the two previous Elantra generations. Also, I would prefer a simple knob for HVAC function vs. several buttons--it took me some searching to find the button for "defrost". Once I found it though, it worked well to clear the huge windshield.
The back seat had enough room for two adults my size (I'm 5'10"). There was just enough toe space under the driver's seat for my size 10 tennies, and plenty of leg room. Thigh support was adequate, but headroom was tight--only about an inch clearance for me. The trunk seemed roomy, with the traditional hinges vs. struts.
I thought the Desert Sand car was very sharp; it had the optional 5-spoke alloys. But I also liked how the black cars caught the sunlight with a deep metal flake (I don't like black though--too hard to keep clean).
After looking at the tan and gray interiors, now I think I like the tan interior better, as it's less drab looking than the gray.
It seems to visually overpower the dashboard area somewhat. The controls are very convenient to use and noiseless in operation. The day was cold and the heater produced heat quickly.
Overall, I was very impressed with the quality and appearance of the Elantra and am sure it will do well in the competitive marketplace. The one I drove was assembled in AL.
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Also, automakers can pay for an early test, if they think the results will be good i.e. a Top Pick. Obviously did not happen in this case.
It's reasons like this that I choose to ignore the IIHS. They are funded by insurance companies, which only have their best interests at heart, not yours.
Personally, I'm happy to see NHSTA seriously stepping up their testing to be more stringant so it is not easy to get a 5-star rating.
It takes money to pay for the tests. I have no problem with the IIHS getting reimbursed by a car company if they want their car tested earlier than the IIHS' budgeted schedule.
The Touing OTOH felt very roomy and airy, as it's much taller than the sedan. And the rear seat legroom in the Touring is humongous--more than in the Sonata for example. Headroom in the rear is also much better than in the sedan, with several inches clearance over me. That is to be expected given the wagon profile.
When it comes down to choosing my next car, it might be tough to choose between the sedan with its better fuel economy and swoopy looks, and the more practical Touring (as a used car). And of course options like the Forte 5-door.
And for anyone wanting a loaded (leather, moonroof etc.) Elantra with a stick--the Touring SE comes standard with a B&M sport shifter. Might be hard to find, but it's available.
Would take a touring with a stick if it got better mpg.
There has been rumblings for quite sometime that manufacturers can buy their IIHS ratings. That's a problem.
Have they helped in making stronger safety ratings? I suppose. But, when they release reports on how they rate repair rates from different manufacturers, it's very clear they are looking out for their financial interest first.
All they have to do is make the stick available on the higher trims - can't cost them anything with the computerized assembly. I would even pay extra for a special order. Would be nice if one car maker stood up and allowed special orders for a small extra price. It used to be the norm (and still is in Europe). I remember ordering American cars not too long ago and you had a sheet with a hundred items and you could pick and choose what you want.
I don't have a problem with packages, but car makers need to be aware that some items are deal breakers. Some people won't buy a car with a sunroof or an automatic, but may want everything else. Others may hate leather etc. They can pile on all the doodads and whatzits they want in a package, but the big ticket options should be stand alone.
And these rumblings are based on hard facts... which you can provide references to? Otherwise... with a rumor and $2.00 I can buy a cup of coffee.
Anyway, I do care that one car receives more, or less, damage in a low-speed collision than another. Again, if the interests of the IIHS mesh with mine, that's fine with me.
So please folks, make sure to distinguish between "fact" & "personal opinion" so as not to mislead others seeking help or information...it's just the right thing to do!
Slowly getting off my soapbox, I am...The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
People usually aren't asked for proof of everything in polite conversation, so I don't quite know what to say.
We aren't writing scientific papers that require peer review here, we're chatting informally about cars.
I can't prove this, but I wish you a happy, healthy, and prosperous New Year.
And if it is a link to a government site, or gvt findings, advertisers, mfrgs site etc., all that info can be, and often is, manipulated.
I have also seen certain people go from one forum to another and try to stir up things to enjoy a reaction, and will even repeat the attempt a few hours or even a couple days later if no one bites. You run into all kinds on the internet.
Some people need to just relax more.
I too wish you happy, healthy, safe and prosperous New Year, bobad.
Did you notice if there's a tire well that has space for a spare (even a space-saving spare), and some way to lock the spare in place? If so, it's possible a spare could be added.
that was the nice thing about Honda. Not only did they offer sticks, you could usually find a few, and they had them on all trim levels. I doubt I could find something like my Accord EX-L stick anymore from most makers (even Honda).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/elantra/2011/features-specs.html?style=101286105&- sub=
The difference isn't huge... OK, it may be nice to have the proximity entry with push-button start... Still the down-side is you're stuck with the plastic covered steel-wheels. Having said that, we COULD be looking forward to this factory manufactured aero kit (currently only available in Korea):
http://www.motorward.com/2010/10/factory-made-aero-kit-for-2011-hyundai-elantra/-
I'll certainly know when I take a test drive this coming Saturday.
Gotta pay something for that 0.28 drag-coefficient.
the problem with that lower lever model (even with the pop equip package) is no moonroof. To me, that means no sale. I also won't buy a car with steelies and hubcaps.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
If wheel covers are good looking, I don't mind them at all--actually prefer them. The Elantra's look OK, but I've seen better e.g. on my Sentra.
I could deal with the "steelies and hubcaps" if I can get the Aero Kit I mentioned.
I fear that if they do offer the MT it may only be with some goofy "performance" engine that does not get good gas mileage.
We shall see I suppose.
we will see more of this type of mkting both from a cost aspect, but moreso, so they can advertise lower curb weights. And even a donut steel wheel spare is very heavy.
They also get to do their slalom tests to acquire higher passes if the car doesn't have 50 lb of assort spare tire stuff.
There is a chance that a spare in place will affect rear-end crash ratings also. Probably improve it, but not if a big hit drives that spare between the elbows of two rear seat passengers, so we can't assume.
Funny, I know we both love out sticks shifts, yet you won't have a car without a leaky (in winter) PITA extra liability and more unsafe moonroof, and i would MUCH prefer a car without one. I would go so far as to say that if i was given the option to PAY a moonroof price to get my car loaded the way i wanted (premium sound system, heated seats etc) but get it WITHOUT the moonroof, I would actually do that. Takes all kinds to keep our world interesting.
I never have been a fan of moonroofs since i quit smoking about 20 years ago. But I really took on an against attitude when my black X Trail roof would leak right into the car on bright sunny days on a -20 cold winter day. It would melt the snow, but freeze in the draintubes at the point they don't have sun warming the A pillars they route down through. And when that happned, well the water had nowhere to go but inside the vehicle. It has destroyed possessions ON the seat before I discovered it. And was not too healthy to the seat or seat heaters either or seltbelt sensor either.
In the summer the roof was faultless in a torrential rainstorm. But a PITA when ope even a bit. Noisy and was more than willing the suck your change from a hundred dollar bill after the drive-thru, right out of it once pulling out onto the freeway. oh ya...gimme a moonroof, i realy need that hot beating sun beating down on me and the higher ins costs and tha boulder against my ear when someone cuts me off and they rolled me over.. just gotta have one.. :sick:
it may sound like i am being too intense, but no I'm fine, just stating my case against 'em. To each their own right?
Although 148 hp is more than enough for me, given all the urban driving I do.
The fact that the current Touring SE has a standard stick (B&M short-throw shifter no less) is a good omen for a stick on the high-end next-gen Touring.
Haven't seen my favorite color yet, the titanium looking Elantra...that car checks all the boxes for us & don't even need the Limited, as the wife hates sun/moon roofs anyhow. Wish we could just trade in the Mazda 3 like...tomorrow!! Think I've gotten the bug...badly!!
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2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
http://www.hyundai-forums.com/t56209-i-bought-the-2011-elantra.htm
last time I had a flat, I was on a highway 200 miles from home, and the sidewall ripped. by the time we got off the road, the tire was in tatters. That little can of sealant would have done me no good. So instead of on the donut to a hotel and tire store, it would have been onto a tow truck and I have no idea what after that.
put me on the list of people that don't want to drive without a spare, even if I had run flats
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.