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And the lack of ANY lumbar support on a 2012 Impreza, let alone the Sport Limited, is right up there with a 20th century base model.
Better ride and handling than our '10 Legacy, the road feel is excellent.
Power seems better and smoother.
Due to some of the problems stated by others with very low miles the dealer suggested, and we put 400 miles on prior to leaving Colorado.
Even with fewer than 1500 miles on it one tankful read (actual calculation) at 29.2 MPG. Not too shabby.
Plugged my iPad in and I noticed severe static on it. As one of the books I just downloaded I switched over to one that I had already listened to and it was the same. Will have that checked. Also when I plugged my phone into the USB to charge it the XM radio lost it signal and one of the symbols popped up on the screen. Punching the SAT button got it back on. Will try this some more with the radio on AM or FM. Come to that I'll try taking the radio off SAT prior to hitting the AUX button.
I have to double check but the distance between the wheel wells seems wider than in the Legacy.
All for now.
easypar
My prime concern is safety, with environmentally responsible a second. I think I have narrowed it down to fully loaded 2013 at about 34K vs volvo wagon xc70 ( not as much fun as OB or XC60 but great rear visibility. but sticker shock at 48K!!! ( 5 years free maintainance though including brakes and wipers) I am a 60 year old female with a bad back and am noticing that I am not the brilliant, alert driver that I once was.. hence my desire for collision avoidance etc. Can anyone help me in this decision?
I know I want AWD as I live in a winter snow area and would need mild off road capability. Also as I am used to a van and I seem to live in my car and move large items often, I am loathe to go too small.thanks in advance for any help. Also does anyone know why the OB only gets 4/5 starts with the new rating system?
It also has the Eyesight system, which is new to 2013, and may play into that comment in your second post about your age and level of alertness. I wouldn't want something like that on my car, but you may find it to be a useful tool.
What vehicle do you drive now, as a point of reference?
On the Bluetooth, mine seems to do funky things. It shows connected on my Blackberry but not connected on the Nav screen. I have to turn off the Bluetooth on my phone, re-start it and then connect with the car. If I do this the connection is fine for a few days then starts over with the same routine. Any thoughts?
By the way, I had a 2010 without the Nav. I did not like it at the beginning but am now a converted Subaru guy, this is a great car.
There is something very relaxing about being able to simply be unavailable. :shades:
For those who drove earlier Subarus (before the new design) how do you like the 2013 model in comparison? Having more room in the backseat would be nice for my kids. What about the ride, the mileage, the features? I'm not all that hot on the styling, but it seems to be growing on me.
Thanks.
There are some changes from the previous models to the 2013---mostly with a 2nd generation CVT, suspension, styling, and a few other misc. things. The 2013's have air vents in the back seat and my 6 year old complained on the 2012 that he got hot a lot. No issues with the 2013 because of the vent in the back seat for heat/air condition.
I am very irritated that the keyless ignition only comes with the "special appearance package" on the subaru as I love not having to get the key out of my purse or pocket... it's nothing to do with appearance to me!
The Outback will be a good downsize move from a minivan. We went from a Dodge Grand Caravan (AWD) to our Forester. It was a massive downsize, but wasn't the system shock that going to something like a Prius might be (just from the perspective of seating position alone!). Cost aside, the good news on the Special Appearance Package is that those seats are fabulous.
Having driven in Alaska I take with a grain of salt knowing that kind of snow is DRY therefore much different than the WET stuff we get here. Ga red mud is a different animal.
I do understand every awd/4wd has it's limits.
If they use the Continental tires they started using in 2010, I imagine you'll be disappointed the first time you encounter a particularly nasty patch.
Weird thing I noticed, and I drove to my local to find out if all the 13 OBs had the same deal. The rear passenger doors have a weird body colored patch near the bottom corner on the outside. You kinda have to look right at it, but I saw it and though "that's weird". The dealer said that its to protect against rocks kicking up but I thought that sounded like BS. I didn't push it.
Thoughts? Seems like a really random place to expect rock damage.
Cheers -Mathias
First time poster here -- I really appreciate all of the details that you guys have shared in this thread, as it definitely helped me in making a purchase. A few days ago I got a 2013 2.5i Premium w/ the all weather and moonroof packages, and I'm loving it so far.
However, two questions / observations:
1) Most of the time when I start up the car the blue light comes on in the dash indicating cold coolant. The owner's manual isn't very helpful in explaining this, but a little bit of Google searching seemed to suggest that this is just a reminder to take it easy until the engine is fully warmed up. It is indeed just fine to drive while this light is on, though, right? It's just a reminder not to floor it until the engine is fully warmed up?
2) The outside temp display seems to have been fairly accurate until now, but I did notice tonight that it seemed to show about 8 degrees warmer than the actual outside temp. It hadn't been sitting in direct sunlight, and this distortion lasted for about the entire hour that I was out driving tonight. Has anyone else experienced this?
Thanks!
The vehicle sensor is relative close to the road surface. If this road is traveled heavy, the surface warms up and also the ambient temperature around this road is warmer. The vehicle measures this increased temp and thus the deviation.
The best solution is to put real mudflaps on the car, but this has less visual (and cost) impact and works pretty well, too.
Filled the tank last night and got (actual-calculated) 29.3 mpg. I was pretty happy with that.
By the way, how much you guys can beat against the invoice price from the dealer, i am in long island NY.
I need help/guidance. I am getting transferred outside US and need to sell my very new 3 months old Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited Prez.
2013 4 Door Wagon H4 Automatic 2.5i Premium PZEV REAR SEATBACK PROTECTOR,REAR BUMPER COVER,SPLASH GUARDS,ALL-WEATHER + MOONROOF for $25801 ( out of door 28434)
What price can I expect? Any similar experience and guidance so that I don't lose whole lot of money on this super cool new car ..only 4500 miles travelled.
thanks in advance
Just a rule of thumb, not scientific.
Is this rule applied on on-road value?
Do the dealers buy-back the car? What are the best way to sell it? Craigslists?
Would someone be able to supply the money factor and residual values please for this month. Also, if possible what would be a average monthly lease payment on an approximate value of $32K all in? I live in Oakland California.
I'm very excited to say that I'm going to be purchasing a 2013 Outback 3.6R Limited with moonroof, 12K miles and 36 to 48 month lease. Not sure about navigation as of yet. I have heard good things about purchasing the vehicle at the Livermore dealership. I will purchase it in May when my current vehicle lease expires.
If you need additional information I would be happy to supply it. This forum and the information found here have been extremely helpful. Thanks so much.
Lisa