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This morning for example the temp was around 38F. The RPMs stayed higher than normal (2700??) for about 5 miles into my commute, then dropped to about 2000 or slightly higher. The average MPG display always drops durring this time. Today it dropped by over 1mpg since there are less than 100 miles on the tank. After the 5 the MPG levels out and then starts climbing back up. By the time I'm in the office (30+ miles) I've gained back the 1 mpg I lost and gained a little. Average display was at 37.5 if I recall.
Overall I'm pleased with the mpg. 32mpg is the lowest and the highest is around 37mpg hand calculated. Display is 1 to 2mpg optimistic most times. My old 2001 outback got 27 to 28 with the same commute. Speed ranges from 50 to 70mph with spots of stop-n-go with traffic and construction.
Very happy with the CVT.
And you just lost 3mpg real world.
Fuelly.com has Impreza owners averaging 28.0 mpg, while Avenger owners average 25.3 mpg.
And the Avenger is smaller, and not a wagon.
To get 43mpg Subaru would have to remove the spare, mount hard Prius tires, remove all sorts of safety beams, use thinner glass and metal, etc.
Basically a new age Geo Metro with AWD. No thanks.
Or design a boxer diesel ... oh wait, they already did that.
P.S. 43 mpg can be obtained on a flat highway run at moderate speeds (55-60 mph). Been there, done that on the NJ turnpike with only 1100 miles on the clock.
To the other person who hated the outback - why would *anyone* with a clue buy a AWD wagon for MPG only? If all you want is MPG, you need a non AWD car - it's obvious. Heck, you probably need a Prius or really light small engined or diesel car.
And for the people doing only 5-10 mile runs each day, if you don't need AWD, you probably ought to have looked at a plug in hibrid, or even the nissian leaf (and then had infinite gas mileage :P) ...
That extra idling will lower your MPG. Start off immediately but not full throttle.
No, it doesn't make much such sense to me. No, I'm not crazy, but yes, I've held all other variables constant. I am not done with the tank of gas yet, but my computer is giving me 32 mpg instead of the normal ~29. I still don't step hard on the gas, but I do cruise at 65 - 80 on the hwy stretch.
I don't notice the down shifting/engine breaking as much, perhaps I can maintain top gear better. Hey, I get to work faster and my mileage has increased. Great.
Next time my boss gives me a job I don't want I'm going to tell them to go to hell and do what I want. Maybe doing the wrong thing will help at work too?
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LOL! I wouldn't try that if I were you... ;-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I have no idea what filter kylesmom installed.
Both cold (anything below about 20F, and it gets really bad at -20F and lower) and snow brutalize fuel economy. So, if your mileage results are primarily winter-based, you have something to which you can look forward come summer!
As an example, last week it was -30F here (Fairbanks, AK) for a week+. Our car's FE was 20 (vs. 26-27 during summer in same driving). This week, it is a balmy 25F (we're loving the warm temps, mind you!), but we are having heavy snowfalls. With the 12+" of new snow on the ground, our FE is still 20. Without the snow but with the warm temps, we'd likely be at 24 MPG.
Looking at that from a percentage standpoint, that's a 15-25% drop from summer fuel economy numbers. So, that would put your average of 24 closer to an average of 30. :shades:
I have a long commute in Mpls/St.Paul of about 35 miles one way. I'm still managing to stay over 30mpg, but just by a thread. I'm well short of the 36ish I was getting in August.
Both my old 2001 Outback and now the 2012 Impreza have behaved this way.
However last weekend's 12" of snow was fun. Maybe that is also why the mpg dropped a bit more for the last tank of gas.
In the snow, the Toyota blows chunks. It struggles to make it up our driveway in conditions the Subaru simply laughs off.
There's no comparison if you're in foul weather.
The Sienna is a competent all around vehicle, but it totally falls flat in the slippery stuff, hyper-active VSA only getting in the way (thankfully an Off switch helps), so I borrow my wife's Forester.
In fact I drove her Forester today (sleet + snow mix here in DC).
This model was rushed to market. A number of things have become evident in the year that we have owned this car. Don't get me wrong. This can be a great car but Subaru simply did not take enough time to find its early shortcomings and fix them. (Very unlike Subaru. What were they thinking?)
1) We can only get close to the promised 36mpg under very specific circumstances. Not too hot; not too cold; dry pavement; no wind and no hills. (Does this really sound like Maine?) 30mpg is more realistic with the base model version of the CVT. Other models should be able to squeak out a bit more.
2) The shift logic used by the Base 2.0i CVT transmission is less than optimal. This REALLY needs to get this updated. It hurts MPG and the driving experience substantially. Those who have shifting paddles found in the more expensive models can take control of shifting and do much better than the "computer brain" controlling the CVT in the Base 2.0i. A few have mentioned getting logic updates, I think it should be a required service recall.
3) The computed average MPG on the dash is always overstated by about 7 to 10%. It kind of makes you wonder about the math skills of their engineers.
4) The standard tires (Yokohama Avids) are NOT suited for snow & ice in the northern tier states. They are quite good for typical wet/dry conditions. Subaru should have used another tire model for vehicles delivered to the the snow belt. I get the sense that this decision was made by an accountant and not an engineer.
5) Subaru of America does not appear to want to help its customers out. They cannot admit they made a few mistakes and then propose how to fix them. They seem to be in denial about this model's issues. (This does not make a good customer experience!) So, my advice ... get your facts; have them on paper; know what solutions are acceptable to you and then just keep pushing. Subaru will make it right eventually.
They can and do listen.
Lowest tanks have been 29 to 30mpg.
Highest tanks were last summer and in the 35 to 37 range.
15,000+ miles so far.
But, a very big difference when I drive vs my wife or son. They are typically 3 mpg lower. When I watch my son drive (more like, when I look out the window while he is driving), he will usually hit 3500 rpm off a stop. I find if I can keep it below 2000 rpm from a stop, it will maximize mpg. My wife will usually hit 3000 rpm. Neither of them is OCD, like I tend to be.
It's amazing the mpg difference between 60 and 70 mph, my guess is 3-4 mpg.
That is a fairly flat to rolling hills type of drive. Since it is North West in direction the wind probably had some effect. Last week had a good 20mph wind from that direction and the temp was cold with high temps just above zero. Of course the way home scould have had help from the wind.
I've noticed that more passangers and higher speeds (above 65) will affect this car more than others. My old 2001 Outback didn't take nearly as big of MPG hit with passangers and a little extra speed. I'm one of the fairly happy ones with the Impreza MPG.
Keep in mind the EPA test is mostly 55mph testing with a few short accelerations above that. Every 10mph increase above 60mph drops the MPG by about 10% to 15%. I read that somewhere recently but can't find the link.
'12 Sport Limited and average 28 to 30 on congested highway commute. Have gotten 36 mpg on highway road trips.