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2014 Infinti Q50 Sedan
Next week at the Detroit Auto Show we will see the totally new 2014 Q50 Sedan prototype, formally known as the G37. It should be interesting!
For Infiniti's new naming/nomenclature system refer to this link:(http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/17/infiniti-queues-up-questionable-q-and-q- - x-naming-scheme/ )
For Q50 spy shots/teaser refer to this link:(http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/28/infiniti-teases-g-replacing-q50-ahead-o- - f-detroit-debut/ )
Jake
For Infiniti's new naming/nomenclature system refer to this link:(http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/17/infiniti-queues-up-questionable-q-and-q- - x-naming-scheme/ )
For Q50 spy shots/teaser refer to this link:(http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/28/infiniti-teases-g-replacing-q50-ahead-o- - f-detroit-debut/ )
Jake
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2014 Infiniti Q50 Teased Ahead of 2013 Detroit Auto Show
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http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2013/01/this-is-all-new-infiniti-q50-sports.html
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/01/14/2014-infinti-q50-detroit-2013/
Claire S, our Host, perhaps we should use a different Forum title, Q50?
Jake
Wow!
The available optics and words pertaining to the new Q50 make it look good (better than the outgoing model by far), appear to advance the G37 by a wide margin and so on -- it's all goood, far as I can see and read.
The new pres of Infiniti is a 19 year Audi veteran. Perhaps it was his idea to rationalize the names of the cars as Audi did when it came up with the A3, A4, A5, A6, A7 and A8. And Audi cars do use Q5 and Q7, S4, RS6, etc to mean certain things -- and there is no direct way to tell from the name, A6 for instance, what the displacement of the engine is.
Sure, BMW does, mostly, conform to a designation that mostly allows the casual observer to see 328 and know that a 328 has a smaller engine than a 335. Indeed, the engine in L is suggested by the numbers following the model "3".
So?
I actually have more problem with the notion of a Q50 and a QXsomething -- where X is used to proclaim AWD (I guess). But a Q50 can be either RWD or AWD and I imagine there will be no naming like Q50X.
This change to the naming convention is a step in the right direction -- I guess some folks would have rather seen the name be Q37 and have the 37 actually have some meaning in liters as to the displacement of the engine.
I'm fine with rationalizing the naming and don't need the name Q50 to be any more descriptive than A4 is in an Audi or S60 is in a Volvo and so forth.
As for the dropping of the stick shift -- this was clearly in response to the market's lack of interest in actually purchasing them. Cadillac (and Buick) can offer all the manual transmissions they want, in their line-ups; the uptake, based on published numbers rarely reached 3% -- and once automatics started offering 6 and more speed autos, the market for manuals just continues to be eroded due to consumer apathy in that regard.
When I asked the 10th largest BMW dealer why he had hundreds and hundreds of cars on the lot and on boats and trucks coming soon to his dealership and virtually none of them were stick shifts, he replied: "I'd love to inventory stick transmission cars -- but the carrying costs would kill me, the cars sit on the lots for months and months with no takers. But, hey, I'll order one if someone would actually place one on order -- that too, very rarely happens."
The Audi dealer says esentially the same thing and further carries it to colors. Audi has a color called Imola Yellow -- it is really cool looking in brochures, but put one on the lot or on the showroom floor and the only way to move it (and it must be moved eventually) is to discount the crap out of it. Same goes for that Pearl Red A6 -- it is still unsold. Imagine a brand new 2011 A6, now discounted $12,000 and it still sits.
The point is, the number of folks who will pony up for a stick car is statistically so small as to be insignificant -- and dealers are in the business of selling cars, not showrooming them for grins. If a sufficient number of protests (with checks attached) comes in to Infiniti, I would assume manual transmissions will be, once again, offered.
Now to the rattletrap 3.7 engine. I assume the 3.7 engine isn't REALLY a rattletrap. I have read and understand that this engine tends to thrash as it approaches full-cry and is nearing its red-line. OK, that may be true (probably is for that matter), and that same critique cannot be ascribed to a BMW 6-cylinder engine (and I assume that is the case).
My wife has a 2011 FX35 -- and when it is in for service we are almost always provided with a "something" 37 vehicle (M37 or G37 or EX37) -- and yes I have given these loaners (and our own) full throttle and let the tach go as far as the needle goes before the auto trans upshifts. The engine does "make noise" near redline at WOT. It is, however, not lacking in smoothness, it does not rattle. It just seems "busier" than a comparable 3+L BMW or Audi motor. But, overall, the Infiniti seems to eternally come in at a price that is thousands less than an equally contented German. So, I cut it some slack for making a bit less pleasing sound at full-cry than a more expensive (but not more motivating) German model.
With respect to the transmission, sure 8 or more speeds ought to be an improvement -- but much of the competition is still offering 6 speed autos, so perhaps good is the enemy of great, especially when you consider that a 7 speed transmission is still more cogs than most cars for sale on the planet. I have no doubt we'll soon be seeing more speeds -- hopefully before Cadillac gets around to offering its vehicles with more than 6 speeds.
I see what Infiniti has done is to take a couple of steps closer to being a totallly believable alternative to Audi, BMW and Merceces -- within the same or similar class of automobile. Infiniti has no A8 or 7 Series rival. The Infiniti family (of sedans) seems happy to compete with the A4 3 series and C class (with the new Q50) and happy to compete with the A6, 5 series and E class with what is currently called an "M" Infiniti model.
I see no other car line from Japan at least that is working on rationalizing the look of their cars (although Acura and Lexus do seem to want to do this) and the naming convention of their cars. Infiniti is or will soon get a dose of whatever its new president, Johan de Nysschen, learned after being with Audi for 19 years.
I think all of the things Infiniti is doing or has announced it will do, will be good for the brand -- brand equity will build and strengthen as a result of these changes.
Infiniti may, this time, actually produce something that will give the Germans pause and a good reason to look over their shoulders as Infiniti gains on them.
This is a good thing for all car lovers -- even if you don't particularly agree with Infiniti's decisions as embodied by the newly announced Q50.
I can't wait to see what's next. :shades:
So, goodbye Infiniti! It has been nice knowing you!
IMHO Nissan 2013 Altima 2.5 is a decent car at test drive and I believe G37 would be a good performer too. Have you owned an Infinity long enough pass warranty to say it is a good car that didn't give you problems? Is the 2014 Q50 promised to be improved on the G37? I just read that mpg is going to be better.
I've been reading car mags and checking forums on edmunds to see which inexpensive vehicle is reliable and with muscles. Seems like all makes and models have some kinks to work out, whatever price range they are in. Is Infinity a car to worry about water pumps? Did you find Infinity electrical and electronic things problem-free?
Thanks.
In my case I have moved on -- traded-in my 2006 G35 for a 2013 Acura TL SH-AWD 6MT (sorry about the alphabet assault) just a few days ago. In so doing I also moved from a sport sedan to somewhat of a grand tourer which is fine by me -- the Acura is sporty enough and has greater creature comforts.
I spoke to a salesman at an infinit dealer the other day and he told me that it should be in the dealerships late summer
Im dissapointed thought they would be early summer
I cant believe that you cant get what you want in it for around 42000$ It seems like it jumps to around 50000$ compared to the 2013
Maybe im wrong and i hope they change the pricing with the options If you get 1 option then the other one has to come with it and that annoys me and thats what jacks up the pricing
I am going to lease an Infiniti Q50 Premium AWD with Nav. 39 months/12K per year.
MSRP $43,855/invoice $40,416. Does anyone know the residual value and money factor for this car in NY?
Thanks
Just curious as I have the G37 Sport version now - did you drive the Sport or are you just not interested? From what I've seen in the pro reviews it's supposed to have the better drive.
Re the price, I'm glad I have 4-6 months to make up my mind and plan to drive a few competing models. I suspect the demand may not be great and reasonable deals will start surfacing within a few months despite being a new model, though the salesmen will work that angle for all its worth...
Shop the dealers and good luck!
For what it's worth, I have a 2012 G37 that I pay $325/mo leased, no money down (other than first payment). We're talking double that for a Q50. Infiniti just sent me a flyer saying I could lease a 2013 for $299/mo with $2k or so down, which translates into nothing down if I work the dealer some. So...is a Q50 2 times better than a G37? I'm just not seeing it.
-BCVC