Chevy Silverado - Continued XVIII

whitevette01 · March 2001

Just enjoy the vette like I'm doing.

Traded a 99 BMW 5 Series on a 2001 Vette
in month wise was only a year, 7000 mile.
Pre ordered the 2001 in 2000, and worked
off MSRP. BMW lost $15,000. Chevy told
me should try to sell because they didn't
want the car since people coming into a
chevy dealership weren't looking for that
class of car. I looked at as no hassle
expense - over and done with.

tucsonjwt · March 2001

pickups at about 5% per year (about $1500 on a $30K truck) but I think those days are gone for 2 reasons: 1) pickups have more competition from SUVs, 2) sales of all vehicles are slow. After 6 months of ownership and 6,000 miles on my stripper, my dealer would offer me $12K on the truck I paid $16K for on GMS. Anymore, I think you can count on 20% loss when you drive any vehicle off the dealers lot. Dealers can't move the new pickups, so they really don't need any used pickups either. The best plan is to trade in every year if you have the money, or keep the vehicle 10+ years if you get a good one.

lwittorf · March 2001

You better grab that 20500 and run as that is high for a 99 I just had GM buy back my y2k with 19000 on it and all they would go was 22000 and that was with all the extra's I had on it. That inc visor,penstripe.stainless rocker&wheel well,wood grain dash and other misc. I tried to get them to go higher but with the formula the BBB uses and the blue book that is where it stayed. I could have backed out but the pu was a piece of junk from day one. I now have a 01 and love it. msrp was just about the same as yours.

64roadster · March 2001

I've narrowed my truck selections to two very similar vehicles. Both are 2001 2wd Silverado 1500 LS extended cab with a 5.3L, 4 spd auto, same color, interior. They differ by the rear differential: one has a 3.73 locking differential but no tow package; the other has a 3.42 non-locking differential with a tow package. I would like to dress up the truck in the future with a 3-4" lift and larger diameter tires (30 or 31"). I intend to drive the truck daily, a 60 mile round trip mostly 50 to 75 mph unloaded. Most of my "hauling" wil be of the Home Depot/CostCo variety with a rare trip to the dump. Rare tow of a 5000 lb. boat and trailer if the Suburban isn't available.
I'm looking for advice on the gear ratio choices and whether the tow package is a must (for the trans cooler). If this has been debated in the past (and I'm sure I'm not the first to wonder out loud) please point me into the abyss of archived discussions.

ryanbab · March 2001

Your paying how much for your truck?

whats another $285 for the tow pkg. Get it save you headaches down the road from having one put on.

joelis · March 2001

Thanks for the feedback guys:

Michgndr - regarding selling it privately, I gave that up years ago. After 31 vehicles, it gets pretty old if you know what I mean. I expect to lose some money on each exchange, I just don't like losing a LOT of money on each.

smart99 - Corvette has been my dream car since I was 10 years old. I can finally afford to have a new one now. Why do you call it "queer"? You don't have to be a drug dealin pimp to enjoy them. If you ever get a chance to drive a new C5, you'll know what I mean. Since the stock market is going in the tank, I decided to put my equity to something real, and enjoy it as it drops, rather than worrying about the rise and fall of a piece of paper.

I'll be getting another truck in fall (since we have real winters here), I'm just not sure what that is going to be yet. (2500 CC? Avalanche? C3?...) Something I'll have to think about while I'm driving my Vette this summer.

z71bill · March 2001

If you plan to put larger tires on in the future go with the lower gears (3.73's). The larger tire raises your overall gear ratio.

Look at it another way - adding a tranny cooler is much easier (and cheaper) that changing out the rear end. Have the dealer do it before you take delivery. Should add about $200.

I have a 98 Tahoe with the 3.42 rear end - put 31 10.5 tires on the 1st day - stock tire was 235 75 15's. I wish I would have gotten the 3.73. When empty it performs good, but when I tow it could use a little bit more punch.

My 99 Silverado 4x4 has the 3.73 rear end. It feels much faster (although that could be because of the 270 hp 5.3L Vs 255 hp 5.7L)

mgdvhman · March 2001

I think the only person who would call it a queervette is someone is is jealous??

Go for it!

although now is the time to hold shares or buy more...but to each his own.

When it makes sense...and I don't have other things to do...I plan on buying a Convertable Vette as well. We have real winters...so I'd need something else as well. The dealer always has a nice one or two in the showroom. Had an awesome Red metallic (don't know the color) in the showroom. Salesman always says "when you gonna buy one?"...I always tell him.."if you sell cars long enough here...you will sell me one someday"

He had some 19 year old kid come in...and want to test drive it...he said we don't do test drives on Vettes..(figuring kid was a dreamer...plus they really don't do test drives on vettes!)..kid said well what if I put 20 grand down on one?...he ended up selling him that car..

Good Choice....enjoy the only True American sportscar.

- Tim

smart99 · March 2001

You're right I'm jealous, I'm 6'5" and and can't fit in one of those rockets. Consequently I drive a big rig.

jagdtiger · March 2001

Hello Silverado owners.
I just bought a 2001 LS Ex Cab 4.8L Silverado. The paint is Victory Red. I intend to Zaino it, but don't know if I have clear coat paint. I looked through the owner's manual and the Chevrolet web site and there is no mention of the type of paint. Forgive me if this was covered in previous threads, but I couldn't find any posts on the subject.

Thanks

meisterman · March 2001

I am planning on buying a 2001 Silverado EX cab 2WD. I was wondering if the 4.3 V6 would be enough engine for me if I were to do some light towing and mainly city driving. Or if i should go for the 4.8 V8. Thanks

ryanbab · March 2001

Test drive them both before you decide.

Personally i would not get a v-6 in a full size truck. My moms blazer with the 4.3 seems underpowered. Going from the 5.3 to a 4.3 and back is a huge difference.

Drive em both and see what you like.

mgdvhman · March 2001

OK...but being tall doesn't make the car queer?

Vettes Rock....only true American sports car made....and what a statement they make....and compete with European sports cars to boot!

- Tim

white6 · March 2001

Hey guys, long time no post. I remember reading here a year or two ago about a website that lists the changes (equipment, colors, etc.) for the next model year. I have spent hours scanning old threads with no luck. Anyone here have that link? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

smart99 · March 2001

you're right cars can't be queer. Although when my dealer buddy pulled up in a lemon yellow mustang some may have begged to differ....

obyone · March 2001

You have clear coated paint on your truck. Order the Z1, Z2, Z5, Z6, and Z7. Well most people order these as a minimum for the Zaino effect.

whitevette01 · March 2001

www.corvetteforum.com

What color are you ordering. The color
mgdvhman is talking about is called
"Magnetic Red" its under special allocation
number right now due to demand.

mgdvhman · March 2001

Magnetic Red....and OHhh so nice it was.

smart99...well I kinda agree....Wife has a yellow Stang...which is OK for girls...but guys..uhhh...well...errr...

something about dudes in those yellow Rams too that just don't look right...

- Tim

whitevette01 · March 2001

Magnetic Red is a special paint process,
was told it has gold type base has to be
run through the paint process twice. I
was going to order but Torch Red leather
was top on my list and the 2 don't mix.
Most go with oak and grey.

ryanbab · March 2001

Red is a chick color too hehe

Get black or blue a real mans color

87lion · March 2001

manly men mount there own step bars. Not mentioning any names here.

chevy4me · March 2001

Anyone know if the 1500 hd will be offered in an extended cab 2wd? Same as 99 2500 with 6.0?

vince4 · March 2001

Go for the small V8 for sure. It's better to own and has much better resale. Several (but not all) folks with the V6 comment that it is weak in this size truck and are sorry they bought it. On the other hand, I haven't read any negative comments on the 4.8, but have read some very impressive mpg figures (~20) which aren't much worse than a V6 I expect.

mgdvhman · March 2001

Obviously you have no clue what color we are talking about....I'd take that color over any color GM makes on any vehicle if I could....must be seen in person. I like Reds.

#1972....BWHHAAHHAHHAHAAAA

- Tim

bugsplat · March 2001

I'm one of the few who have the X Cab V-6 and think the power is adequate, though I have not done any towing yet. I have the 3.73 rear vs. the 3.42 which does make a difference, so if you like the V-6, see if you can find one with the 3.73. Despite being pleased with the power of my V-6, I must agree with others that you must test drive and see. If after driving you any still have any concerns about the V-6 power, go with the V-8. Whether the V-6 is truly adequate or not, buying a new pickup and then not being satisfied with the power sort of kills the enjoyment of driving/owning a new truck.

blacksilver · March 2001

All GM vehicles are clear-coated.

4.3L is NOT enough for any kind of towing in a full sized pickup.

joelis · March 2001

Geezuz H. Christ! Thanks a lot guys! First I'm queer, and now I'm being called a girl, and I have to pay extra for it to boot!

Long story but, I originally went in wanting Red (big surprise), but the closest they had on the lot to what I wanted in options, etc was a Millenium Yellow one, which they gave me for a test drive. (Yes, they actually let you drive them when they know you are serious and have the cash burning a hole in your pocket). This dealer had 17 brand new 01 Vettes on the lot last week, but most of them were Auto (ick!).

You know what, this Yellow 6 spd really grew on me quick. I have to admit that Yellow and Green were at the bottom of my list initially, but a Vette is one of the few cars that make yellow look good. It makes you take notice of every line the car has. Now, I love Black, and most things I drive are black, but real dark colors like the black does not do a corvette any justice because it hides too much of what a Vette is all about.

It costs $600 extra for the Yellow because they add a yellow tint to the clearcoat, and they have to reset the paint machines each time to go back to the original clearcoat for the rest of the colors (other than Magnetic Red, which also gets its own tint).

whitevette01 - yes, corvetteforum has a lot of great info, sometimes scary, when they talk about how the resale slide is starting to affect these as well. Oh well, who cares, I'm buying brand new because I want to know that nobody has had a chance to abuse the car that I'm going to keep for a very long time.

punjab · March 2001

Maybe you can add some black fender flares to that yellow vette...you know, to dress it up some...

mgdvhman · March 2001

perhaps a Vette would be the only new car that could be yellow?.....Yellow looks good in a Chevelle...as well as Older Camaros.....but new mustangs....Dodge rams.....they scream girl!

- Tim

bco · March 2001

LOL!!!

"manly men mount there own step bars. Not mentioning any names here."

cyber-high-five!

babs...he nailed ya on that one! LOL!

bco

joelis · March 2001

nah, I could only put black flares on an Indigo Blue Vette. lol.

Tim - I agree. I was thinking 'what is it about yellow that make some cars or trucks (like mustangs or dakotas) look stupid?' I think yellow is a high performance sports color - classic or new cars. If its an ugly car, it makes it uglier, if its a classic car, it makes it stand out that much more.

I had a buddy a number of years back get his 86 Grand National painted in Canary Yellow after a major vandalism. It looked absolutely fantastic.

mgdvhman · March 2001

I think GN's look wickedly nasty in all black...and can't imagine it yellow!.....some cars Henry Ford said it best.."you can have any color you want....as long as it's black"...

...Wife's Yellow Stang Convertable looks good....but stick a dude behind the seat....and well...it looks too pretty!......one reason I don't care to drive it.....and if a car is going to be a manual..and I am going to drive it....it's going to have mega balls under the hood....which almost no cars have today....

500 horses
and a Chevy Mill...
Makes me..
The King of the Hill
..Guns & Guitars
Bikinis & Fast Cars
Slide Behind the Wheel
....and GO!!

- Tim

ryanbab · March 2001

Wasnt calling you a girl just antagonizing tim

SO WHAT I DIDNT INSTALL MY NERF BARS! I DIDNT HAVE TO WASTE A DAY PUTTING THEM ON> I PICKED MY TRUCK UP FROM THE DEALER AND THEY WERE ON ALREADY!

Ok sorry

Yes i would add black fender flares to an indigo vette (do they even make indigo vettes?)

Ryan

eric2001 · March 2001

Hey, it only took me about an 2 hours to install my bars, and that included cleaning and two coats of wax prior to the install... BTW my truck is indigo blue, and I wish it had the UBF's. Looks like my CC I ordered will now have painted flares... What happened to the origianl UBF's???

ryanbab · March 2001

2 hrs?

Well that was 2 hrs of fishing i did that weekend

eric2001 · March 2001

And you should see them right now, all mangled up were I got slammed into. Best part is, they took much of the damage, not the frame, so no matter who put them on, they were still helpful.

jgmilberg · March 2001

Has any body seen the new on star antennas on the trucks?!! How dorkey could GM get with that little goofy antenna sticking up on the front of the cab?!! I could see if it was centered but man where they put it looks stupid. I was thinking about On Star on the truck my wife wants until I saw that. Nasty!!

schifer · March 2001

Does anyone have a 1500 with a manual transfer case? I just ordered a 2001 extra cab, 5.3, auto, Z71 and decided against the Auto Track. It just looked like something else to break, and a shift lever works fine.

I have never seen a manual case on the lot, and I just am wondering if this will delay my order as it is uncommon.

Thanks
Scott

blacksilver · March 2001

You're going to decide to not buy OnStar based on what the antenna looks like? On a boxy truck? Beauty among trucks is on a par with virtue among prostitutes! Amazing!

michgndr · March 2001

My dad's 2001 1500 has a manual 4WD lever. It didn't take too long to arrive. Your dealer can usually give a decent estimate of how long it takes. It is kinda ugly, and GM did nothing to dress it up. Not even a light so you can see what the markings are. At least the old levers had a lighted display.

I was going to order a floor lever on mine until I studied autotrac a little more. If you're concerned about the eventual resale at all...I'm betting the autotrac will work in your favor. $25-30k for a truck...what's another $400? Good luck.

Anybody got a picture of where that dumb Onstar antenna is? Blacksilver, there IS beauty among trucks. Look how ugly Fords are!

ryanbab · March 2001

For the floor shifter a light on the dash (4wd) lights up when engaged in 4 wheel drive

mledtje · March 2001

My 1500 has the transfer case shifter on the floor. It looks right at home beside the transmission shifter.

I like the positive gear selection with less to go wrong (no electrics involved in shifting).

Mike L

blacksilver · March 2001

Here's a picture. It's just barely visible on the front left top of the cab, roughly above the steering wheel.

whitevette01 · March 2001

Haven't really looked at the used prices of
Silverados until been thinking about going
with a newer model if family member decides
if they want to take my truck or vette.

Anyway it appears that an LT takes over a
10,000 first year hit where as seen LS
near or just a couple of 1000 off new ads.
Really wanted leather but its not worth taking
that kind of price hit.

Mom has a new T-Bird (Yellow) on order but
has decided will not pay over MSRP. So if they
S**** on price, will turn her leased LS back,
take my truck and drive till T-bird mania
is over than trade or take my vette and forget
the bird.

Both my vehicles are showroom new (vettes never
seen a wet day yet), so makes since to take one
of them. Joelis - not worried if the C-5 take
a price slide due to the C-6, it won't be going
anyplace soon whether in my garage or hers.

If get a new Silverado will go with gold again
or the sunset orange. If a new vette is in store
will probably order another white since want the
red leather.

michgndr · March 2001

True. But knowing where the lever needs to go for 4H, N or 4L requires a hard look. I was disappointed.

Orange Silverados. GM announced a new incentive program. Order one now and the castration is free!

whitevette01 · March 2001

I've seen those "options" you can get for you
pickups, they hang kinda low might get knocked
off.

One thing about Orange Silverados - you
won't see yourself at every stoplight

mgdvhman · March 2001

2 year old loaded 2500's...aka LT's lose 4-6K in 2 years here in Michigan...

where do you live?

- Tim

ryanbab · March 2001

Sorry but what options are you talking about?

n75v111 · March 2001

and the Hands Free Voice Activated Dialing Cell phone option is competitively priced with NO Roam Charges Nation wide or other normal Cell phone 'HIDDEN' CHARGES.

Antenna has to be located their for the PU Campers overhead bed etc.

75V

smart99 · March 2001

Got the 2500HD today! 8100/Allison 78 trouble free miles and loving it!!

Chevy Silverado - Continued XVIII

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