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It's nice of you and others to share their knowledge/information/experience....but no need to be smart-a**ed about it.
Just for reference, in Germany, a certain VW dealer refused to service a car which is bought from somewhere else. The court orders them to pay a penalty if they continue to do such thing. So they did!
Bruno
I'll see what the cars direct specialist has to say.
Sharon
14 Proteges:
1991: 1 LX
1992: 1 LX, 1 DX
1993: 1 LX, 1 DX
1994: 1 DX
1995: 2 DX
1997: 1 DX
2000: 2 ES, 1 DX
2002: 2 Protege5
(That's a record, y'all)
... and ...
1 Jetta (now who could THAT be? ...)
And 21 people from the following states: Virginia, Illinois, Maryland, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, New York and Connecticut
... coming to the third-annual Mid-Atlantic Protege Picnic, taking place in the mountains of northern Virginia on Saturday, May 18! Wanna come? Check out the Yahoo group mazdaprotege, or e-mail me directly at:
mdaffron@the-rma.org
Looking forward to it! 33 days, everyone!
Meade
Drive safe and enjoy this weather!
(singing along to the Clash) "hey. HEY! That was just a silver P5 that passed me. Wonder if that was birdman??"
So it wasn't until you had already passed that I thought about waving. Next time I'll try harder. That was still the first time I've seen a silver P5 on the road in Milwaukee.
vf (Jessica)
Happy zoom zoom.
Bruno
Best of luck on our negotiation.
Rear of Protege 5
http://www.performancewestgroup.com/vehicles/2001/mazdaprotege/images/rear.jpg
http://www.performancewestgroup.com/vehicles/2001/mazdaprotege/images/front.jpg
Sorry about the (3) separate messages, but why only 115 characters? Ive seen post longer than that...
Revka
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it looks good though.
as much as I adore my pro5, i would have to say that the mini exceeds my adoration, but it's also out of my budget right now, so I await the day that I finish med school and residency :-)
I couldn't believe it! I had said NOTHING to this person about having heard wind whistling noises in P5's. In fact I didn't even tell him that I had ever driven a P5 before and the first thing out of this guy's mouth was that I was going to hear a wind whistling noise! We didn't ever drive fast enough to hear the noise on this particular test drive. I find it hard to believe that the windows don't roll all the way up. I am driving a Protege sedan right now that has no wind noises and I can assure you the windows roll all the way up. I would be very suprised if the P5 windows didn't roll all the way up but it does have different rear doors than the sedan so I suppose that is a possibility.
But to respond to minkyboy, I didn't quite understand what he meant by installing a moonroof deflector would solve all the problem since cars WITHOUT the moonroof make the noise too. If however removing the roof rack cross members and installing the flat inserts solves it I would be happy. But if the cause is the windows not rolling all the way up like the salesman said that would give me some concerns to say the least.
One other thing...my girlfriend and I were shopping for a new car for her. She's in a "slightly" higher income bracket than me (to say the least). Anyhow, we were looking at the X5 and the Audi Allroad...nice cars--needless to say. Even so, while they were all beautifully appointed (right down to the heated steering wheel!), I can honestly say that my P5 handled as well as any car we drove. I think Mazda can take pride in that fact. After a brief bout of car envy, I still love my P5.
I can't believe a salesman would say something like that it serves no purpose. For the buyer who would believe him, they would never buy the car (who would ever buy a car that the windows didn't go all the way up, they'd leak). For the buyer who knows better, they would never buy it from him. I know they are not all car geeks, but you'd think he'd know better than to say something like that.
I left thinking fun car, but not really compelling. Okay, the double sunroof is amazing, and heated seats is something Mazda needs to make available on all it's models. Still, I'd buy a Miata with a hardtop first - roomier, more fun, more reliable. Leaving the MINI dealer, I was more impressed with the Infiniti G35 in the adjacent lot. Wow, they got the lines on that thing right. And I was more than happy to start up my P5.
In my Honest opinion - it even put the average GoKart to shame with its handling! and I drove it VERY hard (encouraged by the salespoerson!)
But, like I put it to a friend, I would buy the mini if I had no friends, or it were a second car - not otherwise!
As for premiums on mini prices, I understand that many BMW /Mini dealerships are doing the 'right' thing and selling for MSRP. No markups. But my local ddealership (as a result of this relatively accptable policy) has a 3-5 month waiting list for base Minis, and around 11-13 months for a Cooper S!!!
Great car, though!
Where exactly is the whistling coming from?
Bruno
Trust me on this. :-)
Bruno
As for your howler monkey, thats pretty funny. LOL
Bruno
You are right, mooroof-less, not moonless roof...DOHH!!
If all Mazdas do this then I'm going back to Hondas.
I disagree. I am in south florida why should i pay for heated seats when i am NEVER going to use them? i would rather pay for an extra power oulet, bigger armrest and deeper cupholders, more storage compartments, cupholders in the back, light around the lighter...
Somewhere Vocus, with his Jetta's heated seats, is waiting to agree, I suspect.
Also, seat heaters make me sleepy...not warm air. Maybe it's just me though.
Also, for safety, I believe all vehicles definitely should have heated mirrors as standard equipment. Even Dixie dwellers must come North on occasion and could use them! I have been forced to use a hair drier sometimes to clear my iced-over mirrors.
So I think that the car should have ESP and a whole body heater and just defrost the whole car automatically 20 minutes prior to the owner wanting to leave....