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Mazda Protege5



  • alternatoralternator Posts: 629
    Before daylight running lights were available, I always had my parking lights on during the daytime as I felt it gave me an edge in being noticed, including from the rear. With the adoption of DRL however I don't understand why the rear parking lights aren't illuminated as part of the package. I still switch my parking lights on to cover my rear, so to speak.
  • shriqueshrique Posts: 338
    if anyone cares I came up with a cheap cargo mat this weekend. It's less than half the price but not as pretty as the Mazda one.

    Go down the Home Depot (or anywhere) and buy a 3'x5' rubber backed carpeted door mat. It's about $20(us). Take your factory hatch carpet out and flip it upside down on top of the door mat. Chalk the outline and cut it out. I used a propane torch to melt the edges of the carpet to make sure it wouldn't fray out (you just have to pass it over and the carpet melt). If you like you can even cut the slots for the cargo tie downs. Again I used the torch to melt the carpet around the tie down slots.

    I was going camping this last weekend and I needed something to protect my baby. (GRIN)
  • reitrofreitrof Posts: 122
    Since there were some posts on mileage I thought I would post mine from the holiday weekend drive. Boston, MA to Ontario and back. 30 MPG going up and 32 coming back.

    Up was mostly "spirited" interstate driving and coming back was a mix of Highway, city and cruisin thru the Adirondacks at again a spirited pace. Man I love this car.
  • tgif888tgif888 Posts: 351
    anyone bought the Mazda extended warranty and how much does it cost?
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    I bought 1 extra year of extended warranty for about $200 CDN.

    IIRC, the 7 years was just over $1000 CDN.
  • mustang87mustang87 Posts: 129
    thanks, but another question. does mazda know that you bought a car on the s-plan? my dealer never did give me s-plan documents and never did write on the order that the car was bought on s-plan. it is however the right price since they did show me the invoice with this price. thanks.
  • limpyboylimpyboy Posts: 26
    Maybe somebody can help: I received today a large white envelope from containing a copy of the Mazda magazine, a "Quick Reference" to my P5 and an accessories pamphlet.

    The front of the envelope, which had either accidentally or intentionally been opened before it got to our house, said: "Careful: Glass enclosed"

    Anyone know what the missing glass is?


  • mnkyboymnkyboy Posts: 108
    Is this the "Welcome Package" that you are talking about? Mine came in a flat box, and it contained the items that you mentioned, PLUS a bottle of touch-up paint. That is the "Glass" part. Maybe they forgot to put it in the envelope? I would email about this. They will send you another package most likely. After hearing about other people who recieved the "Welcome Package", I emailed Mazda USA about it (about 2 mths after I bought the car). About a week or so later, I recieved (2) "Welcome Packages". Now I have (2) bottles of touch-up paint. :)
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    I'm averaging a solid 30 MPG in my manual P5 with just over 17k on it. This weekend's 3-state trip brought me 34 MPG. All on 87 octane btw.
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    Who has the highest mileage Protegé5??

    My silver beauty was purchased 9/1/01 and I have just over 17,000 miles in 9 months. :D
  • clayman1000clayman1000 Posts: 69
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  • badboyeeebadboyeee Posts: 25
    MNKYBOY - whats the email addy? i cant find one on

    i just got my welcome package, its the same as limpyboys. i too noticed the label saying "Caution, glass enclosed!"

    ive heard most people got touch up paint. i want some too!
  • mnkyboymnkyboy Posts: 108
    CALL 1-800-222-5500 or


    For more information, see this thread on I posted the same info there. Hope this helps.

  • meinradmeinrad Posts: 820
    I bought touch-up paint, then got a bottle in my welcome kit, then got a bottle in the mail from my dealer. LoL. Now I've got 3, I can repaint the whole car!
  • jas9297jas9297 Posts: 26
    "does mazda know that you bought a car on the s-plan?"

    -Yes, I identified myself as being eligible for the S-Plan. There is nothing special on my order or invoice, but they showed my the S-Plan price on the invoice, and gave me the discount. The invoice is written showing the MSRP, and then discounts off that to get to the final price. Again, no specific mention of the S-Plan, but they knew I was buying it based on that price.
  • fgaydosfgaydos Posts: 319
    What's the S plan?
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    The Mazda version of Ford's X-plan. Both are made available to fleet customers (or to organizations that negotiate this with them; if your employer offers Ford's X-plan, then they likely offer Mazda's S-plan). Typically, a little to a lot (<$100 to several hundred dollars) under dealer invoice.
  • iamziamz Posts: 542
    21,737 miles. Picked up July 2001.
  • ggilliomggilliom Posts: 22
    New topic: paint.

    I've read complaints on other P5 forums that people with Red and Yellow paint complain that it chips very easily. I haven't heard that complaint from people with the metallic colors (gray, for example, and I think the blue is metallic, too).

    I have a 93 MX-6, and my only complaint over the years was that the bright red paint seemed to chip easily, and has severely faded/"chalked" over time. I mentioned this to some other Mazda fanatics online a few years back, and they commented that the non-metallic paint Mazda uses looks fantastic (and almost wet) brand new, but is considered a "soft" paint and not terribly durable.

    Based on early to mid-'90s MX-6s and 626s I've seen with metallic paint, they seem to have aged much better.

    So...all this said, do any of you older Mazda owners agree? Any idea if the newer glossy paints are more durable?

    I LOVE the red P5 paint. It's the color I really want. But I'm wondering if the white or gray might age better.

  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    All the paints chip easily. I believe most, if not all auto manufacturers are now using a water based paint that chips hella easy. It sucks :(

    My friend's '02 Subaru Impreza TS wagon (blue colour) has way more chips than my '01 black mica Pro.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    Another reason the metallics (or mica in most Mazda's) look better over the years is the clearcoat. Mazda does not apply a clearcoat on their Classic Red. It requires a lot of maintenance to keep it shiny and it will oxidize (turn "chalky") if not taken care of.

    My Classic Red '99 ES sedan still looks as shiny as it did 3.5 years ago when I bought it. At least three times a year, I spend a whole day on it. First, I wash it really well. Then, I apply a chemical cleaner which removes any oxidation and stains. I follow the chemical cleaning with a good polish which restores the lost minerals and oils back to the paint's finish. Finally, I protect it with two coats of wax. I use Meguiar's Clear Coat Body Scrub Paint Cleaner to chemically clean (I know it says clear coat, but it works with or without one), Meguiar's Deep Crystal Polish, and Meguiar's Gold Class wax.

    A severely oxidized red car (paint not peeling) can be brought back to show room shine with some time and effort. The oxidation actually forms a protective layer, much like aluminium does when it oxidizes.

    You can check out my car's Classic Red finish here.

  • sharonfsharonf Posts: 120
    Hey everyone...this clearcoat issue has been settled before....see prior posts....

    #3093 of 4251 re re: Clearcoat by coznefx Mar 18, 2002 (12:49 pm)
    OK, had to resolve this...just got off the phone with the manager at the dealer's body shop...and YES, the factory paint is other words, there is clear on every color.

    #3094 of 4251 Time to settle the Clearcoat dispute by mnkyboy Mar 18, 2002 (05:48 pm)
    I emailed Mazda USA today and the answer is plain and simple. The Vivid Yellow Protege 5 DOES have a clearcoat. IMAZ, I suggest you take a ride to your nearest dealer, and find out why your paint is coming off!? Here is the email I recieved and sent...

    Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:24:38 -0800
    To: "XXX XXXXX"
    Subject: Re: Your E-mail to (KMM53678V90XXXXXXX)
    From: "MM"
    Reply-to: MM

    Dear XXXXX,

    Thank you for contacting Mazda North American Operations. I appreciate
    the opportunity to respond to you.

    You've inquired if your 2002 Mazda Protegé5 in Vivid Yellow has a
    clearcoat. I have verified with our Product Support Engineers that the
    Vivid Yellow paint on the Protegé5 does, in fact, have a clearcoat.

    I hope this information is helpful.

    Again, thank you for contacting Mazda. It has been my pleasure to
    assist you. If for any reason this response has not completely
    satisfied you, please feel free to reply to this message. You may also
    contact our Customer Assistance Center toll-free at 1-800-222-5500.

    Please take a moment of your time to give us your opinion about our
    e-mail service. Click the link below to complete a brief, online


    Lisa Lasky
    Specialist, Customer Assistance E-Business

    "Want a bit of Miata-like sportiness in something that can handle
    home-improvement-center runs, a stroller, or a few golf bags? Consider
    the Protegé5." - Motor Trend

    Original Message Follows:
    Form Message
    Year: 2002
    Model: Protegé5
    Message Body: I have a Vivid Yellow Protege 5, and I have been told
    that the paint DOES NOT have a clearcoat on it. Is it true that the Red
    and Vivid Yellow Protege 5 has no clearcoat? If it doesn’t have a clearcoat, why not? Can you please verify this information. Thank you.

    sharonf by coznefx Mar 18, 2002 (08:38 pm)
    I'm begining to feel like I'm invisible :-(...

    Yes, I checked with the dealer, and red does have clear, as does every other color. Anyone who owns a red P5 (as I do) need only take a look in the engine compartment or behind the hatch to see what the paint looks like without any clear on it.

    #3100 of 4251 Red and Clearcoat - Sport Shift Auto by phoenixmp5 Mar 19, 2002 (09:00 am)
    I had to double check before posting but my Red P5 definitely shed some clearcoat when the bumper was scraped with a cardboard box :-( Fortunately, it waxed up real nice. :-)
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    I used to sell Mazda's and was the Inventory and Lot Manager in charge of the delivery detail shop. I am not sure about Vivid Yellow, but I would be surprised if didn't have a clear coat. However, Classic Red DOES NOT have a clear coat on it. I know this as a fact, not as an opinion. If you like, I can send you many red polishing and buffing pads from my own car and from the dealership. When using polishing or buffing pastes and compounds, the red paint comes right off. If there was a clear coat, this wouldn't be happening. A pure red such as Classic Red is not possible with a clear coat since a clear coat actually has just a hint of yellow in it. Hence, those orange-red paints you see from other manufacturers.

    Information from the dealer is, unfortunately, not very reliable. Especially from the sales and service staff. I have looked inside my engine compartment and trunk... I clean that paint all the time. It's just as shiny and red as the paint on the outside. Millenium Red is a different story. That does have a clear coat.

  • toyotatedtoyotated Posts: 11
    I've got 3,500 miles on my car. That's a lot in just two months, but about 2,000 of the miles have been the result of two long road trips. On my latest journey through the California desert (600 miles), my P5 got 29 mpg going out and 32 mpg coming back. That's not bad. Now if I could only get that gas mileage driving around town! That would be awesome.

    Go Wings Go!
  • fgaydosfgaydos Posts: 319
    Thanks for the info.
  • mnkyboymnkyboy Posts: 108
    You state "Information from the dealer is, unfortunately, not very reliable" Can you presume that your information is unreliable? I am the one who contacted Mazda USA directly, and they said there is indeed a clearcoat on the Vivid Yellow. Im not sure about the Red, but they also said that all cars have a clearcoat. This may not be the case for older Mazdas, but im sure new technology has allowed a clearcoat to actually be clear, and not give a yellow tint.

    BTW, when did you sell Mazdas? What year(s)? Im not trying to prove you wrong, just trying to get the facts straight :) I hope Mazda USA isnt lying to me...
  • shriqueshrique Posts: 338
    I bought my car 11/2001 and I just got my welcome package. Did anyone else get the "Winter 2001" magazine that came with it? Oh and never got my touchup paint either. I'm emailing!!!!
  • dwryterdwryter Posts: 87
    Same story here: got the package sans paint, emailed a 'Hey!', little bottle's now on its way. Perhaps Mazda stopped sending the paint to save money, figuring they'd do so later only for those who learn of the previous policy. My thanks to those who told us about it here. I don't suppose they're doing the same with decent stereos? 8^]
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    Information from MNAO is generally pretty reliable. Dealership sales and service staff, whom are not MNAO employees, can be unreliable. Heck. Ask most Mazda sales people what engine a Protege5 has. Most of them have to look it up.

    I sold Mazda's from 1999-2000 and was the Lot and Inventory Manager from 2000-2001. I never said Vivid Yellow did not have a clear coat. I actually said I would surprised if it didn't. I'm talking about Classic Red. It leaves your towels, chamois, pads, and applicators red after you use them. This is a reason why you see heavily oxidized red Miata's, MX-6's, Protege's, MX-3's, etc.

    I did some research on the web. It seems I may have to bite my tongue, but I am not sure...

    I could only find information on the Miata. It seems in mid-1999, Mazda began using a clear coat over the Classic Red and other non-metallic colors. Before this, all Miata's with non-metallic colors did not have a clear coat. I know for a fact that the 1999-2000 Protege sedans did not have a clear coat over the Classic Red, which was the only non-metallic color available. In 2001, Classic Red was discontinued on the Protege line, replaced my Millenium Red. The Classic Red was reintroduced for the 2002 Protege5. This may have a clear coat.

    The best way to tell is to look at your towel or chamois after you are finished drying the car. If there is red residue on it, then your car is not clear coated. We've had this discussion many times in the sedan board. But, for the sedans, Classic Red did not have a clear coat.

    I also found some interesting information regarding clear coats and why Mazda didn't use them on non-metallic colors. The color coat underneath the clear coat stills fades from the sun over time. Because the clear coat is over the color coat, you cannot restore the color.

    If the Protege5 Classic Red does indeed have a clear coat, which sounds like it probably does, I digress...
  • sharonfsharonf Posts: 120
    Well...i'll soon be washing my car for the 1st I'll let ya know what happens on the towels/chamois.
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