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Mazda Protege5
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Since I drive 25k per year, it won't make much difference, but I think it's great anyway.
Snow Tires:
I have the Artic Alpins size 195/55-15 on 15" steel wheels from tirerack.com
We found some pirelli snows in exact size at www.1010tires.com
I will keep everyone informed.
rich
The maz6 people don't get the info from me anymore...they are too mean, nasty and absurd. haha. It's too bad because I got a ton of juicy info on it today.
Rich
Revka
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Bruno
If these incentives come through, do you expect them to be available when the current set runs out in early December or even sooner? Those of us anxiously considering the P5 would appreciate any information you could share.
Thanks,
P.J.Heff
bluong...lol, thanks.
When you purchased your Pro5's....if the roof rack was an option, at that time, would you have purchased it?? Figure the cost of the option to be around $175-200.
Rich
I haven't experienced the whistling that some of you have with my P5, even with the sunroof open and hauling [non-permissible content removed] over 80 mph...
I just couldn't see spending the extra just for looks, since I use a hitch rack for ski's and bike's.
Just out of interest, though, if a P5 is purchased without the rack can it be added later or are the attachment points missing?
Thanks for your input.
Rich
I would not have ordered the rack. In fact, I had the dealership de-install it before I picked up my car, which they were happy to do. Then after seeing the canadian P5 I have searched for the rubber rain strips so I can get rid of the roofrack attachment rails altogether. I think the P5 looks much cleaner without the rack, plus the noise, weight, and aerodynamics improve.
Will those strips be availabe down here now? Otherwise, if you can get those rubber rain strips for me, I'll drive down from Boston to get them!
But I've been too lazy to remove the cross bars.
Jessica
Bluong: they still come with the rack rails installed but no cross-bars.
I actually had it OFF for most of my first year with the car, but I recently put it back on because I bought a small rooftop carrier (XPORT).
I just did my orders for January and did apx a 50/50 split on racks...
Rich
Does Mazda make a special BIKE attachment for the Factory Rack? I know they were planning one for a while, but I have had not luck finding out if one exists.
I know you can put Thule/Yakima on to the Factory Rack, but I would prefer not having the extra horizontal crossbar that those require.
Thanks,
Andy
Can't comment on the way kbb and edmunds calculate values (did you factor all of your options into the edmunds estimate?), but it is common knowledge that new cars lose a significant percentage of their value in the first year. That is why many people always recommend buying used - let somebody else pay for the most expensive period of ownership.
When I was looking to buy I checked out a lot of one to two year old cars (mostly Honda's and Toyota's) and none of them were half off the original price with less than 10,000 miles on them. In fact, the Honda's and Toyota's seemed to be almost the same price as brand new if not even more.
None of this makes any sense to me. I guess I'm just going to have to live with this car for awhile and hope the gas mileage improves miraculously.
Not that I'm really complaining about the P5 or anything, it is a good car, I just hate feeling like I wasted my hard earned money. I probably should have bought that ugly Matrix car when it first came out, it gets better gas mileage and probably won't lose its value as quickly. I just couldn't get a good deal.
I would expect the Pacer (oops, I mean Matrix) to drop along the same lines. Whether it's a P5, Pacer, or anything that first trip over the curb costs at least 3K unless it is a car in short supply. If you want to see something really sad go look at the Taurus prices. They drop about 9K in the first year.
Figure you lose at least 10% the instant you take possession. At least it's not as bad as jewelry (at the beginning...they do plateau at a higher percentage).
So, what's the floor? I think in my area, most everything (y'know, everything but "prestige" or "collector" types) that still runs (somewhat) bottoms out around $500.
ALL cars are depreciating assets... nothing more.
Mazda's resale values are slightly below Honda and Toyota, and about even with Nissan and VW. They are all much better then the domestics.
None of that actually reflects on the car.. low resale does not necessarily equal "piece of junk." It all comes down to what the market will bear for each make.
How bad is your mileage that you would even consider getting rid of a brand new car that you otherwise like very much?
Pacer! Excellent! I also like Corolla5. Who would buy a Corolla5???