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scaperscaper Posts: 9
I hope I will get some info here on this subject. I have been searching for a work truck for my business for the past few months. I looked at the big three and the Tundra v6. I like the Chevy 4.3 but a friend of mine is a Chevy mechanic and stated they were having drive ability problems and that if I were to go Chevy get the small V8. I like the dodge but am afraid of the 3.9 not having enough grunt. The Ford was very nice inside but I hear reports from friends that the 4.2 doesn't yield great mileage in this platform. Well I don't know squat about the Tundra V6 combo so that's why I'm in here to find out. First off, I'm using this truck to do estimates not haul alot of material. I'm getting 2wd not 4x4. I have a 4x4 91 Dodge Ramcharger for winter and a F450 SD to tow my 22 foot equipment trailer so this is my pleasure ride. Does anyone own the Toyota V6 in the Tundra? If so how do you like it? What's your mileage? And how is the power in this size truck? These are all questions I'm trying to answer. If anyone owns the above mentioned trucks please fell free to give the same information. I like all three big three trucks but would like to give the Tundra equal consideration. Thanks ahead of time for any and all answers. Scaper
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  • tucsonjwttucsonjwt Posts: 283
    GMCs. My guess is that they get them cheaper than the other models. I bought my 2K rado stripper from the Chevy commercial lot, where almost all of the pickups were 1/2 ton, regular cab, longbed, 2WD, A/C, auto, cruise, and some with PDL so you can have keyless entry easliy. This is the truck they sell in the greatest volume. I have not driven the other models because I qualified for GMO/GMS - so I only looked at GMs.
    I did have a bad fuel injector at about 5K miles which was replaced under warranty and the dealer also cleaned all of the injectors and put a can of Techron in the gas tank. The service advisor recommended that I use only Chevron to get the Techron additive and I have done so since that episode. I also dump a bottle of Techron in the tank at every 3,000 mile oil change as a precaution. So far, no recurrence of the driveablity issue(about 13K now.). I think the dealer may have been right. I would use Techron in any vehicle now.
    If you are concerned about getting a problem engine, I would stay away from the new 4.8 and 5.3 votec GM V8 engines. You can search here at Edmunds and still find problems relating to knock, ping, and driveablity on these engines. A co-worker just took delivery of a 4.8 Silverado and he has had the engine ping from day one. I think the 4.3 is an old reliable design and not a problem. The problem with all of the new GM engines is that they are leaned out too much and any imperfection in the fuel or fuel delivery system causes a performance problem.
    I drive very carefully in town only and get 20-21 mpg. On the one extended highway/city trip I took I got 27 mpg, with about one hour spent stopped on the expressway in a traffic jam with the engine idling.
    If you go with GM, I would buy the GMC because you can get a fold down armrest in the base model. If you are going upscale it doesn't matter - Silverado or Sierra - as long as you don't mind spending an extra 4-5K for the doo-dads.
    I would, of course, take all of your prosective choices on a long test drive under the conditions you will drive daily before you buy (rent one?).
    Good Luck.
  • yurian44yurian44 Posts: 25
    The best idea would be to spend an afternoon and about $50 and rent a V-6 Chevy or GMC or Toyota for that matter (if you can find one) toss a few hundred pounds in the back and take a drive.You'll be able to judge much better without a lot lizard yammering in your ear while you do the test drive.
  • tundradudetundradude Posts: 588
    Look at tundra 4x2 v6
  • redsilveradoredsilverado Posts: 1,000
    "lot lizard" now that's funny, but also excellent advice.
  • bigsnagbigsnag Posts: 394
    My brother just got an X-cab short bed 2wd Ford with the V6 and 5sp. He didn't tell me his exact mileage down to the tenth, but he did say he gets over 20 on the highway and I know him, he hauls butt. Most likely averaged about 80-85 mph. He hasn't had the truck too long, but I think he likes it so far. I'll try to get details next time I talk to him.
  • cth7312cth7312 Posts: 18
    My Dad has 2000 GMC Sierra LB w/ the 4.8. He's had it for almost two years w/ 35,000 miles and no problems. I'm not sure what the mpg, but I can alsmost make a round trip from Dallas to College Station w/o filling up. (220 miles each way). Actually I could probabaly make it, but there are a couple spots where I would be in real trouble if I ran out of gas, so I play it safe.
  • jim4444jim4444 Posts: 124
    We have a huge fleet of trucks from many manufacturers and a mechanic told me that when they want to get rid of one they drain the oil and radiator fluid then start em up with a brick on the gas pedal.

    Two hours later the Chevy 4.3 is still running.

    I've heard of em going over 200,000 miles with no problems in full size trucks from other sources as well.
  • 5spd5spd Posts: 38
    Drain the oil and coolant and the truck could run for two hours ? Yeah right ...
  • gwallnegwallne Posts: 3
    I have been researching 1/2 trucks for the last 8 months.Its become a obsession. Anyways I drove the chevy,GMC,Tundra and Ford. If your not going to load alot into the bed the Tundra is a very nice responsive truck with the 6 and the long box in 2wd. It is slightly smaller inside than the domestics and the bed sits higher off the ground ( tough on the back for loading) but a nice personal vehicle and the 6 is reliable . The gas mileage on the Tundra will be worse than a domestic because of the stock 3.9 rear end. The Ford and Chevy/Gmc rode very well with the 6 . If your just doing estimating ,you might want to look at the Ford short bed flairside. Ford offers a big discount package if you go with the 6.You will have a sporty truck that is peppy with the short box and agile in traffic and driveways and yet their flairside has almost as much cargo room as a regular short box bed. Check out the ford online website for pictures of owners trucks.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    Sure, don't you see it on those TV infomercials?
  • jim4444jim4444 Posts: 124
    Thats what the mechanic told me. He isnt full of it or he'd be out of a job. Hes the one who makes a living working on the trucks. Why does he need to lie?
  • joeltranejoeltrane Posts: 25
    I used to drive a 1990 GMC 2wd 1/2 ton with the 4.3 when I was with the Gov't. This thing had 190,000 miles on it!!! It was actually kind of fun to drive (it was auto trans). It still had good power, but it had also been maintained well by our regional mechanic.
    My personal vehicle is a Toyota T100 so I'm generally a little biased when it comes to trucks, but that chevy 4.3 impressed me with that many miles and having numerous drivers over the years.
    It kind of makes me think that I could get the same miles out of an American truck as my Toyota!
  • richcolorichcolo Posts: 81
    I think you're right Joeltrane, I've got 160,000 on my 1991 GMC Sierra 1500, 4.3L, 5 speed, 2WD, Long bed. It uses a quart of oil in 4,000 miles and the only time I have ever gotten less than 20 MPG was towing. It has been in a shop once in the last 60,000 miles--for a throttle position sensor and a throttle cable. I've put shocks and tire on it, and changed the oil, oil filter, air filter, PCV valve, spark plugs and coolant, and it has never stranded me. (Ran pretty weird with the bad throttle sensor though!) Unfortunately it got a bad case of hailed on last Thursday... think it will be totalled when State Farm get a look at it this Friday. I'll probably take the payoff, pay the salvage and keep driving it (with liability only), but not fix the damage. It's a shame because the paint still shines. (I park in a garage at home and at work... was within a mile of home when the hail started, not close enough.)

    On the other hand, I have been dreaming about a new Sierra 2500 HD Crew Cab Duramax 6 speed....(I'll have to get a short box to fit in the garage... maybe I'll keep the old truck around for the bulky and messy loads...)
  • tucsonjwttucsonjwt Posts: 283
    one beater to take to the dump and the lumber yard and embarass the neighbors, and one other shinny new truck to impress the neighbors. It's the best of both worlds.
  • abc246abc246 Posts: 305
    I have a 2k Silverado with the 4.3 V-6. This engine is amazing. I tow 5000 lbs with it every weekend. It has a lot of power and is smooth running. I like the fact it has the same transmission, transfer case, rear axle and front diff as the V-8. Best part heads and block are still cast iron. Not many of these left.

    I would not buy a Toy with the V-6. Toyota has never made a good V-6 truck engine. After 5 or 6 years the head gaskets go. I thought they would fix them in the 90's but looks like they can't.

    By the way, I believe jim4444. I bet it gets hot, but cast can take it. Loose tolerances on 200k or more engines have places to store oil.
  • tundradudetundradude Posts: 588
    How many truck V6's has toyota made?

    2

    The new 3.4 did blow some head gaskets the first two years, but I have not seen one documented 97 and after. Toyota also footed the bill. The 3.4 is a good truck engine.

    I would asume Toyota is in the works of a new V6 when the new Tacoma arrives as well as the mysterious (rumors) bigger V8 for the Tundra.
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Posts: 2,728
    Not just bigger V8...bigger truck!
  • tundradudetundradude Posts: 588
    Like a extended-cab long bed maybe.
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Posts: 2,728
    That's a "go nowhere" marketing proposition for Toyota. Crew cab with mini short bed like Tacoma Double Cab is the name of the game.

    New truck will be 1" wider, have all new platform, similar styling queues.

    Of course, regular cab trucks are never out of style, because they were never "in style."
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    Of course, regular cab trucks are never out of style, because they were never "in style."
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Posts: 2,728
    That's why we pay you the *big bucks*
  • tucsonjwttucsonjwt Posts: 283
    I rarely see anyone riding in the back seat of an extended cab, and also rarely see any serious cargo stowed back there. One everyday advantage would be more reclining room, if you like to drive laid back style. Most extended cabs are shortbeds, which have the disadvantage of having long items hang out the end of the truck. Must be why SUVs are more popular as people haulers.
  • sjsporsjspor Posts: 10
    I have 97 C1500 x-cab with the 4.3 and the light duty 5 speed, The only reason a tool has entered the engine compartment in 97,000 miles is to change the water pump. With the 5 speed I have more than enough get and go, but when pulling my camper, I do the wish i had bigger motor dream. But since the rest of the time it's just me and my tools, I'm happy with the 21 MPG i get around town, never gets any better or worse on the highway. I have actually been looking for a new Truck, and would take the 4.3 with a 5 speed again, if you could find one!!
  • If it is just for driving to the clients house to do estimates why not use your Echo,then give your guys a raise with the money you save.

    jim444 you should suggest to your boss that they should auction those trucks they want to get rid of instead of destroying them,then he will think you are a genius and give you a raise.
  • bmaigebmaige Posts: 140
    A pickup seems to be "overkill" for what you want to do, and an Echo--or some other small car, will get a lot better gas mileage than any of the pickups.

    Why would anyone want to destroy a pickup engine to get rid of it as much as they sell for used? Or is it an unbreakable company policy, perhaps, to keep one a specified number of years and/or a specified number of miles, so this method is being used to remove lemons from the fleet? If so, selling them would still be a better business decision, so I would suggest a change of policy.

    I'm afraid as far as picking a newer version 6 cylinder I wouldn't be of much help. I have an old 1982 F-150 4x4 with a manual tranny and inline 300 cubic inch 6 that is still going. Unfortunately, those engines are no longer available. It needs a new muffler, but is strong and tows a lot with the granny low it has in it.
  • jim4444jim4444 Posts: 124
    I work for a huge company, destroying an engine when they get old is a way to send em to the boneyard.

    If they were pickups they might consider selling them but they arent.

    They are kinda like delivery trucks, you know "bread vans" not a popular vehicle.

    Dont get me started on the clowns I work for....oops management.
  • ken27ken27 Posts: 2
    I have just purchased my first F150 its a stander V6 4.2 XL model...after compare with tundra and layout the paper wk finally I dicided go with Ford...its drives very smooth and plenty of cargo space and I love the super cab that opens outward give more space to the move things in and out. I also got $2000 dollar factory rebate on the price but I saw on edmunds.com it has $2500 rebate..could anyone knows more about this post some info on it. I paid out the door( includes everything) $18100.00. Is it fare price?..also I get about 18 to 19 mpg for city and hiway drive..
  • You paid a good price for a good truck. You may have been able to get it a little bit cheaper, but not very much. You got a good deal for a Ford F-150 ext. cab.
  • why do people insist of saying you can do it with a car, echo come on, who the heck wants to ride in that death trap.

    I don't know if someone has mentioned this yet but the Chevy v6 is based off the 350 the best engine ever made.

    thats something to think about
  • bessbess Posts: 972
    I agree that 350 is an awsome, bulletproof engine.. I also know the 4.3 is based on the 350 (just 2 cylinders cut off).. However, for some reason the 4.3 doesn't seem have the same reliability as it's big brother 350..
    Not sure why this is..
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