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MSRP $18,630
Supplier price 17,915 or 18,059 depending which GM website you believe (neither is a very good price)
Invoice per Edmunds 17,518
Local dealer is quoting me the following:
$17,893 vehicle price
$204 doc fee
+ taxes and plate transfer
- $500 rebate
- $500 dealer cash (is this the $500 'marketing support' mentioned on the Edmunds site? The GM site currently lists $1,000 cash back so I want to make sure there's not actually $1,500 on the table here, i.e. $1,000 cash back PLUS $500 marketing support)
- $2,000 GM owner loyalty
- $2,000 GM Card (can I really redeem $2k on the Vibe? My card is not one of the old 'unlimited' earnings ones; it says the redemption allowance is $1k on Vibe but I've got a $2k top-off bonus earnings and the GM Card website says "GM Card Bonus Earnings can be used above applicable GM Card program limits."
TOTAL approx $13,100 excluding taxes and plate transfer.
This quote looks to be about $375 above invoice, plus the $204 doc fee.
I've read the recent deals on the thread but just wondering if I should expect that a deal at invoice price is reasonable/attainable? I would think so, but don't want to be too greedy.
The dealer would need to trade for this vehicle, from what I can tell.
Same dealer offered a price of approx $11,600 on a 1.8L manual transmission Vibe with Preferred Package but without AC. That sounded like a much better deal -- $1,500 less than the one with AC, and AC is only a $950 MSRP option.
Anyone thinking about purchasing a Vibe should consider that according to this New York Times article:
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/23/gm-to-end-pontiac-vibe-production-in-- august/?nl=wheels&emc=wheelsa1
production of the Vibe will end in August of this year rather than sometime in 2010 as was previously announced. I have not seen any rebates or incentives listed for 2010 Vibes so far and they have been arriving at dealerships as the 2009 Vibes disappear.
There are no rules on stick vs auto cars. It is mostly supply and demand for that particular vehicle.
Good luck
--jjf
Looking for thoughts on this one. Are dealers generally more willing to give a good price on a manual transmission since most buyers want automatic, or do they price higher because there are fewer manual trans Vibes for stick-lovers to choose from?
MSRP $18,630
Supplier price 17,915 or 18,059 depending which GM website you believe (neither is a very good price)
Invoice per Edmunds 17,518
Local dealer is quoting me the following:
$17,893 vehicle price
$204 doc fee
+ taxes and plate transfer
- $500 rebate
- $500 dealer cash (is this the $500 'marketing support' mentioned on the Edmunds site? The GM site currently lists $1,000 cash back so I want to make sure there's not actually $1,500 on the table here, i.e. $1,000 cash back PLUS $500 marketing support)
- $2,000 GM owner loyalty
- $2,000 GM Card (can I really redeem $2k on the Vibe? My card is not one of the old 'unlimited' earnings ones; it says the redemption allowance is $1k on Vibe but I've got a $2k top-off bonus earnings and the GM Card website says "GM Card Bonus Earnings can be used above applicable GM Card program limits."
TOTAL approx $13,100 excluding taxes and plate transfer.
This quote looks to be about $375 above invoice, plus the $204 doc fee.
I've read the recent deals on the thread but just wondering if I should expect that a deal at invoice price is reasonable/attainable? I would think so, but don't want to be too greedy.
The dealer would need to trade for this vehicle, from what I can tell.
Same dealer offered a price of approx $11,600 on a 1.8L manual transmission Vibe with Preferred Package but without AC. That sounded like a much better deal -- $1,500 less than the one with AC, and AC is only a $950 MSRP option.
transmission) + $616 (sunroof) + 585 dest. charge = $20,470...That's for a 2009 Vibe GT. Incidently, the smoker's package invoice is $31 and MSRP is $35..
Let me know if you need anything further....
transmission) + $616 (sunroof) + 635 dest. charge = $21,902...That's for a 2009 Vibe GT. The smoker's package invoice is still $31 and MSRP is $35..
So GM added almost $1500 since then.
Still $20470+31=20501 is $1301 more than $19200, the invoice mallaik got. Wish we can get a deal that good.
We have a current Pontiac, so quality for the loyalty rebate. Dealer is passing along the dealer rebate, so total is 3K.
1,000 in rebates expire 6/30, although the loyalty rebate expires 7/6. My intuition is telling me that regular July rebates will go up, but the loyalty may go down. I'm hoping to have a day where I can double dip so to speak.
Other peoples thoughts on this, please!
If you're looking at what you want and it's a good deal, pull the trigger. It may not be there a month from now, or rebates might not go your way and after all, time really is money. If your time isn't worth anything, then I suppose wasting it on wheeling and dealing for a car is worthwhile to you. But on the other hand, if the lowest possible price on a new car means so much why aren't you looking at a Kia or a Suzuki?
I've made a verbal deal on the price of the car. Just trying to do some guessing if the rebates might be a little better in July. They will hold the car for me, it's only a matter of a couple of days.
Just sealed the deal on a 1.8 w/ air, auto and perferred. Pick it up tomorrow.
Are you going with the 1.8 or 2.4?
We test drove both the 2.4 and 1.8 quite a bit, and while the 2.4 did have quite a bit more power, the 1.8 was sufficient. The extra 4 MPG w/ gas at 2.50 was not much more, but my guess is during the course of ownership gas will be double to triple current prices.
We came out better much taking the rebates since only 60% was financed and my credit union has rates currently at 4.6%.
Current MSRP: $20,875 + $1,050(Auto) + $700(Sunroof) + $295(Alarm) + $53(CargoCover)+$635(Dist. Charge) = $23,615
Current Invoice: $22,215
Price paid: $17,425+$300(SC car tax) +275 (other fees)=$18,000
Hope it may help.
Remarks:
1) Dealer had this car since 9/2008 at a then lower MSRP of $22,000 and Invioce of $20,783.
2) We were told that there is a $680 dealer added "car care protection system" on the car, not sure what it is, likely worthless.
3) We also had $3,441.47 GM card reward, so final cost for us is $14,558.53.
4) Would like to trade in our silver 03 base vibe with 65,000 miles and top condition. Did not work out, as dealer's offer was very low. Edmunds' trade-in value is about $6,900. We'll be happy to get that much. How hard will it be to sell the car? What is the best way to it?
Thanks.
Not sure if this is the best way to sell privately, but these methods have been successful for me in the past.
1. Totally detail the car inside and out. Make it as clean and shiny as those on the lot.
2. Take it to a well known trusted garage (I've used the dealer garage) and pay for them to give it a total inspection, the same as if you were looking to buy the car. Make sure you get their written checklist and make copies to give to those interested in buying.
3. Get the Carfax report on it and also make copies.
4. Advertise both on the internet, paper and on free community bulletin boards.
5. Put for sale signs on the car and make sure it is at visible well traveled areas.
6. Let family, friends and co-workers know that is for sale. Even if they aren't looking they may know someone who is. Buying from someone you know or knows someone you know makes people more open to buying privately.
7. Use the internet to really research how much you should ask. Look how many similar vehicles are for sale in your area, and how much they are asking. Leave yourself some wiggle room between the asking price and how much you really want. No one wants to pay full price for anything!
Good luck!
Got it from a guy on Ebay who bought it for 16800 otd - a ton of GM cash he had accumulated. His intention was to sell it so he could pocket the difference. But he was unable to get his original asking price, so he put it on Ebay for $13990 in the hope it would be bid up. It wasn't and I got it.
This was about $2100 less than I could have worked a dealer down to on an otd price. I financed with a 60 month, 3.9% loan from Pentagon Federal that I plan on paying back in half the time, so add about $720 in interest.
I'm thrilled with this deal! I would have preferred a 2009 Mazda3 hatchback, but would have been hard pressed to get a manual for under 19k otd.
Good or sour deal?
The car was just delivered from another location and I can possibly refuse delivery, or not.
$16.5K puts the actual car price ~$14.5K because 9.25% tax, license and registration neared $2K
Congratulate yourself for not voluntarily being on GM's leash with the GM card. Cards with cashback you can spend on anything or low interest rule. Having GM "allow" more points on heaps they need to move, and limiting points on hot models was for the birds. (as is GM itself now)
Good luck
--jjf
White Manual Vibe with Anti-theft, 2.4L, A/C Front/rear vents, $150 audio system and that is with all discounts and negotiations in Burlingame, CA. I have not ever had a GM car in my life nor had I accumulated any of those 'GM Points' or what not.
Good or sour deal?
The car was just delivered from another location and I can possibly refuse delivery, or not.
$16.5K puts the actual car price ~$14.5K because 9.25% tax, license and registration neared $2K
Going by Edmunds, Invoice + Destination - Holdback should be about $21,200 before rebates. With $2750 in rebates + $915 in "Event Special", is $17,535 a reasonable price to start as my base before factoring in dealer profit? Also, there's a $500 manufacturer to dealer incentive through the end of the month.
In other words, the second dealer's cost is the same as the first dealer..
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Sure. I get that. But normally destination is considered non-negotiable. In this case, I'm wondering if it can at least be negotiated since it's no longer "required"? I also noticed that the out-of-state cars have lower MSRP. Is that an indicator that they have been sitting around for a while (besides having come from out-of-state)?
Out of state cars having a lower MSRP? Two possibilities...
Older inventory, before a price increase..
Or... PZEV cars sometimes are priced about $200 more vs. non-PZEV cars.. These are usually found in CARB states.. Not sure if this even applies to Vibes (or even if a CARB state could sell a non-PZEV car.
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I'm pretty sure that those lower MSRPs are from older inventory.
Richard
After reading some of the forums, I'm thinking I should counter the supplier starting price with something closer to $22,000, even though Edmunds TMV is $23,170 (which is only $248 less than dealer's supplier price). Anyone have any thoughts?
Thanks in advance!
I got a 1.8L auto w/ air, dvd, power everything, and cargo cover for OTD price of $12K... I'm sure I paid a bit more than I should have.. but I'm curious what extra options your car had.