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2005 VW GOLF V
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2005 VW GOLF V
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Let's hope VW gets reliability right from the get-go this time and keeps prices in check. VW seems to be retreating from the economy car business that really made a name for itself. I would like to see VW bring the Polo over here so they can have a true inexpensive car again. I also hope the added length actually translates into more rear legroom, an area where the current Golf and Jetta is seriously lacking.
Read more here: Volkswagen Driving Ahead With New Golf.
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By the time I'm ready to buy a new one in '07, I should have around 75K miles.
What I like about the MK-V is the extra 2.6" of rear legroom, and the independent rear suspension.
Sadly, there has been some talk over at the VW Vortex, that we won't initially get the traditional Golf when they become available to N.A. Initially there will be a Jetta sedan and a GTI hatch only. Since I like 4 door hatches and will insist on a diesel, I may be holding on to mine for quite a while.
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If VW can get this one right, I will definitely consider one down the road in a couple years.
It has so much torque, that if you push the accelerator to deep, every start will end up with a wheelspin. (sorry for my english).
It steers so much better than the former Golf IV, I just love it! Hope it will come to the USA soon.
And as far as the MPV (which I don't really care about either way), I think it (and any other minivan out there) look better than the Eurovan.
What the Golf has that Mazda doesn't is a 3 door hatch - which is getting pretty rare these days. Looking forward to part 5.
That said I am looking foward to seeing what kind of job VW did with this new Golf, especially the GTi.
Even w/ the "6-star" interior, the VW Phaeton is a disappointing car when comes to ride comfort & steering/handling.
The plush-interior Golf/Jetta IV has a telescopic steering wheel that's still too far away as if VW wanted to preserve the air-cool Beetle's tradition. I'll rather give up the VW's padded dashboard & go for Mazda's good driving position, even the past models w/o the telescopic adjustment. What Mazda loses is the noise level, especially when cruising on the concrete fwy.
This is getting exciting, the Euro Focus has spawned all those suspension pieces to make these new cars competitive to each other -- Golf/Jetta/Passat, Mazda3, S40/V50, & even the Mondeo-based Jaguar X-Type. Then throw in the similarly roomy 3-series & TSX...
I like the Euro VW Sharan minivan's looks better than the Mazda MPV.
& next year's Honda Odyssey? The smaller Japanese (4-cyl?)version sure looks way better than the "giant" one we're gonna get.
Is it true that even if BMW-1 series coes to the US, it will only be the Sedan and not the hatchback? Any chances of Audi A3 coming to USA?
All I want is a dependable hatchback with good mileage - preferably diesel / hybrid. Toyota Prius - they said they have a 12-month waiting list. Maybe Mazda 3 or Scion?
- Bret
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- Bret
We will probably get the existing engine range to start, though, the diesel at this point is still up in the air. Diesels, if they come, will not be sold in California as they cannot meet the emmissions requirements there. Prices will be probably be higher than current models, but we don't know how much. As it is currently, the Passat is less expensive in the USA than in Europe (I was there last year and compared prices in a dealership over there, to ours).
I have been told by a VW corporate person that the aim of VW is not to be a mass merchandiser of vehicles, but to move the brand up market; I took this to mean that the vehicle will be a fair percentage higher than our current model and that the vehicle will not be sold in the US until they think they have it right! (Given the issues of coils and window regulators, that's probably a smart thing). dennis
I'd be really surprised if VW invests in a new 5 cylinder, normally aspirated 2.0 engine when they clearly have been pushing turbos as an alternative for those desiring better performance. Since VW has been too cheap to upgrade the normally aspirated 2.0 to multi valves, variable valve timing, and double over head cams, I doubt they will spend the enormous sums required to design, test, and gear up to build a totally new engine.
In some ways it would be cheaper for VW to come out with a "lower boost" turbo (like with the PT Cruiser, which has a high output, intercooled turbo, and a non-intercooled, lower output turbo) than come up with one extra cylinder and all the hardware to go with it (the valve train etc). This is somewhat feasible, as a marketing tool, since the turbo has risen in power over the past 5 years from its early mediocre output. They could just "niche under" the present turbo.
I do agree that when I got my 2001 Golf, I was pretty upset that the 2.0 normally aspirated was so low tech, way behind the curve. In reality, it had good freeway punch, because it was geared low - it was running 4000 rpm at 80 mph - I didn't have to throw a down shift to scoot up from 60 to 80, but at the same time, it didn't get rough or particularly noisy if I ran it up to 100 mph. For some reason it didn't run out of steam at the upper rpm range, despite the fact that it peaks torque very low in the rpm range - around 2200 rpm as I recall.
No, it's just a VR5(a VR6 w/ one cylinder chopped off). One Brit car magazine pointed out that, compare to Audi's 1.8 turbo, this 5-cyl, which was introduced not long after the Audi's 1.8 turbo, costs more, has weaker torque, worse fuel economy, & no better smoothness, but...
Since the 1.8 turbo has max torque all the way &, therefore, sounds boring(literally) & even feels boring due to lack of torque change for several thousand rpms, you're likely to FEEL more satisfying revving this 5-cyl back & forth, &, therefore, has more character!
Glad to hear the 2.0 won't be offered here though.
Honestly, I'll be sad to see the old 8 valve engine go. It's the last close tie to my 84 Rabbit GTI which has a bulletproof spunky engine. Over 20 years of service is a testament to the durable design of the engine.
Unfortunately the GEX header kept rubbing my GTI front swaybar(this Jetta didn't have a front swaybar to begin with), so the mechanic tried to move the header & broke it. Now I'm stuck w/ driving my Japanese cars for a while.
For the price of a cramped Jetta, one can get a nice roomy true mid sized car.
They deserve their recent sales dive.
Let's hope VW can figure out how to make reliable cars, at least the ones imported from Germany. CR gave the Passat 2.8 the highest reliability rating of all German cars. That's a start.
"Also, to think that people will sit and wait 6 years for a new design today is ridiculous."
6 yrs isn't much. Have you wondered why the Camry/ES300 still rode uncomfortably shallow over deeper bumps for another 10 yrs from '92-02? It's b/c they've been using the same low-tech short-spring platform all this time! Even my '84 Jetta Wolfsburg coupe(just restored) based on the '74 Scirocco rides more comfortably over bumps than any of the low-tech FWD Toyota's from the '90's! While this manual-steering "vintage" VW's stable comfortable ride also provides fun-&-safe tossable handling & good-feeling steering, if only the noise level...
Besides, the new quiet Golf V is a truely new design w/ the Focus-type control-blade rear suspension, so it's level of ride/handling compromise will climb to a new height. While someone in the VW family just figured out how to tune the new electric steering from numb into...
creakid1 "2006 Volkswagen Jetta" Apr 1, 2004 2:07pm
So far, the base 325i is the champ.
Back in '99, when I told another customer in the Pasadena VW dealer, "I guarantee! You can't find another car (rides)this comfortable at this price(over $19k Jetta)", the salesman was mighty impressed. That's right, while I sat in the back seat during the test drives, even the '99 Avalon didn't ride as calm as the '99 Jetta over bumps/undulations.
The current Passat also lost leg room to the previous generation, but China Passat & Skoda Superb simply added their own wheelbase inches.
Even I, 5'11", had no problem fitting into both the front & back of my pre-'85 Rabbit/Jetta I.
Car companies purposely shrink their cars once while, as they can't just let the Golf growing in size continuously so no one will buy the Passat any more, especially the Golf is already quiet & comfy.
The Volvo S80 costs a lot, so all the cheaper Volvo's are required to come w/ a cramped back seat. Heck, the old affordable Volvo 200 series got excess leg room even w/o FWD's packaging efficiency!
& of course, w/ FWD packaging, a 173"-long '84 Camry has enormous amount of rear leg room.