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  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    How about choosing AWD as an option ?

    Between AWD, ABS, Traction Control, that' s like putting 3 condoms on.
  • ederzawiecederzawiec Member Posts: 61
    Hey mschmal,

    As many of us are interested in when we'll see the Five Hundred locally, could you tell us which dealer?, state?..

    (nothing in maine, usa yet?)
  • fdcapt2fdcapt2 Member Posts: 122
    Nothing here on Long Island either. I talked with salespeople from Ford and Mercury dealers today, and they told me between 15-20 days before they get here. I guess they did pull them back because of way to many 2004's still on the lots. Or that's what was said in a few articles I read. Some of the reviews on the three new models said that they had no real pizazz to catch the peoples eye, and they could really use more power. A few also said the interior materials looked "bargain basement". Before anyone gets their shorts all twisted, this is what supposed professional car reviewers are saying. I'm also a bit put off with paying over $30,000 for a Ford. I realize they have new technology, but it still seems a bit much. I guess I'll have to wait and see, and maybe hold off a while to see what problems come up, if any.......
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    James Healy states "The vehicles also seemed sluggish in the standstill-to-30 mph dash that marks much of U.S. driving. Independent tests by AMCI (Automotive Marketing Consultants Inc.) show the Fords make up the deficit as speeds rise, dashing to 60 mph as much as 1 second quicker than rivals with significantly more power."

    Has Ford made this information available? Car and Driver's estimate for 0-60 times for the 500 are 8.6-8.8, which isnt very impressive for a new vehicle thats not going to be getting a new engine for some time.

    I think Ford's major cause for concern with this vehicle will be the new Avalon, debuting in just 6 months...

    ~alpha
  • nedc2nedc2 Member Posts: 192
    Ford claims a 0-60 time of 7.45 sec. for the Five Hundred when equipped with the CVT and for the heavier Freestyle they're claiming 8.65 sec. in AMCI certified. Judging from the way they felt when I stomped on the pedal I'd believe those numbers. Unfortunately the Ford brochure doesn't make it clear if the numbers apply to both FWD and AWD.
  • nedc2nedc2 Member Posts: 192
    Winter rubber is different, much softer, and modern winter tires usually incorporate additives to improve grip on ice. AWD, ABS, Traction Control are all great but generally won't make stopping distances shorter. And you really have to experience a Northern Michigan winter to believe it. Around Detroit most all season tires will be fine for all but about 10 to 20 days each winter, and "acceptable" on most of those days but on trips up north in January or February they're out of their league. Alpena frequently gets to -20 F or lower, and many side streets and secondary roads are ice covered for weeks or months on end. AWD would help, but I really don't need it that often, and it cost $1700.00, plus you get worse mileage. I'm thinking about it but I'd rather avoid it.
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    Nedc,

    Ironically my family lives in Montreal, so I've been "blessed" with numerous winter blizzards when I grew up. A far cry from the humid heat we have here in the Refugee Republic of Miami. My grandparents have always maintained RWD MBenz's up there, and with Stability Control systems do quite well, in situations where even FWD vehicles were slipping and sliding on the roads.

    What I like about the Haldex system in the 500 is that it only engages when needed. And when it does, it kicks in quickly, unlike other systems which the wheels have to spin 7/10th of a turn before it kicks in. The Haldex system takes milliseconds for it to kick in, without being bulky and weighing 400lbs like other AWD systems.

    As for added costs, it's one of those issues that if it can save myself from an accident, I opt. for it. Then again, my driving behavior is quite "unique", so I need every safety system available. heh...

    Alpha,

    Ford already discussed all the acceleration times that were conducted by an independent firm (AMCI) as Nedc stated. And this information is also being printed in their brochures, supplements, teasers, etc.
  • bobbymcgee1980bobbymcgee1980 Member Posts: 11
    I must be shopping at the wrong tire places. The only 17" tires I could find in stock were huge offroad truck tires. They could special order Z-rated (or somthing like that) low profile tires that were hideously expensive had had about a 20,000 mile life expectancy. Great for a Corvette, not so good for a family car. I'll have to do a little more looking and see who sells non-speed rated tires.

    One good thing, though. Full-size Fords have traditionally been known for having good brakes. Looks like the 500 will be no exception. Picked up a brochure at the Ford dealer this morning, and it mentioned the massive rotors, as well as dual piston calipers, so hauling the car down from warp speed shouldn't be a problem.

    The brochure also claimed that thanks to the CVT, the 200 hp Ford could out accelerate a 250 hp Chrysler 300. Haven't drag raced either car, so I'll take Ford's word on that for the time being.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    Autoweek has a nice article on the Montego.

    The online tire places have the best prices, and shipping is not very expensive.

    The exact size on the Five Hundred / Montego / Freestyle (225/55/18) is unique, but for such a high volume car, the exact same tire and other choices will quickly become available. Also, you don't need the exact same size. To keep the speedometer accurate, the diameter should be similar, but even that is not a big deal, as long as you know it is reading high or low.

    I lived in St. Louis my first 29 years, and had few problems with rear wheel drive, a limited slip differential, and studded snow tires. With all of the fancy mechanical and electronic equipment now on cars, and the wonderful snow tires now available, winter driving should not be much of an issue. Ice is the worst, especially black ice, but that is were all of the new technology really helps.
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/- 38122
  • ederzawiecederzawiec Member Posts: 61
    TireRack has several 17", no 18". All pretty pricy.. I've Got the Turanza'a on my Passat. Great tire if you don't get much snow. Before that, I had the MVX4, almost as good.

    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?startIndex=0&width- =215%2F&ratio=60&diameter=17&search=true&pagelen=- 20&pagenum=1&pagemark=1&x=6&y=6&performance=G- TAS&performance=ST&performance=AS
  • mschmalmschmal Member Posts: 1,757
    I'm at a large dealer in Southern New Jersey. Right out side of Philadelphia.

    The Brochure has the published 0 to 60 numbers.

    The CVT apparently has adaptive software. I will learn how you drive and respond accordingly.

    I test drove the one my lot just got in. At first, it felt sluggish. This was because the CVT wasn't really "down shifting." The CVT would take a few secs before it would really go to a low ratio for acceleration.

    After about 3 or 4 starts where i floored the pedal. The CVT started responding alot quicker.

    Whats neat is that the electronics won't let you hurt the engine.

    Mark
  • nedc2nedc2 Member Posts: 192
    Studs are illegal in Michigan and Ontario, fortunately new rubber compounds help alot. The 225/55/18 is unique, and its only on the Montego Premium and Five Hundred Limited, the lower models use 215/60/17s, that size is shared with a few other cars including the Mazda MPV. No snows yet though, they recommend 16s for the MPV but I don't know if those would work with the size of the rotors on the Five Hundred. The Freestyle SE and SEL uses 215/65/17s, also used on the Chrysler 300. The Limited uses 225/60/18s, same as the Chrysler 300c. There are winter tires available, but they're rather expensive and wider than the normal tires, usually you want to go narrower.

    As far as winter driving goes, black ice is the scariest thing because you don't know its there until it's too late. I've gone through intersections, against the light spinning around and winding up backwards after hitting a treacherous patch, got lucky and didn't hit anything.

    I prefer FWD to RWD in winter less because of handling, I really can't say one is superior to the other regarding conrol and accident avoidance, I've got into trouble and got out with both. The reason I prefer FWD is that I've yet to get stuck in an FWD car, whereas with every RWD car I've owned, including one's with Limited slip differentials or traction control and snow tires, I have gotten stuck. It happens when coming to plowed intersections, driveway aprons, or after having been parked on the street and plowed in. The front of the car rides over a ridge of compacted snow, and then the rear wheels are basically in the air, or at least making very poor contact with the ground hence getting no traction. Of course AWD or 4WD is even better for this but it's usually more than needed.
  • samnoesamnoe Member Posts: 731
    Have been at the dealer today, and found one SEL sitting there.

    What should I say? WOW! This is one beautiful car! I just love the looks inside and even more on the outside. I would really recommend Ford to keep the diamond shaped grille, and drop the new 3-bar design (as the Fusion).

    I didn't drive the car (the dealer is closed on Sunday), but had a good look around. Price is very competitive, I think. $24,795 for an SEL FWD, equipped with so many options (6-CD changer and MP3 reader; Automatic temperature; Fog lamps; and more).
  • pluto5pluto5 Member Posts: 618
    For $25K I don't think this is a buy given the Duratec motor. The 17 and 18 inch wheels severely limit you tire options and they are expensive plus some shops don't have the equipment to mount them
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Member Posts: 1,565
    Given the trend to larger wheels, you will soon see 17" tires widely available as all manufacturers seem to be moving in that direction. If nothing else, you will be able to replace them with the OEM tires, which are never all that expensive for a high volume car.

    Given the base model with shipping has an MSRP of $22795 and an invoice of $20950, I don't think the base model is that overpriced, and will sell pretty well. Note, base model is pretty well equipped, in my opinion.

    If the ever pervasive rebates kick in eventually, you might be able to pick one up for about $20K. This doesn't sound too overpriced to me.
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    I agree. If anything, the car is NOT overpriced. However, there is no need for the base model to wear 17 inch tires. 16s are class competitive and would have served just fine. For the time being, 17s are a bit too expensive on a non-sporting vehicle that starts under 23,000. Wont those buying this version be the more budget conscious anyway?

    ~alpha
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    It is difficult to believe that anyone would want smaller brakes. Ford will build hundreds of thousands of the various models, so that alone will make 17" and 18" tires far more common. They are already common on many other vehicles. As I pointed out above, top high performamce 18" tires are available now for under $400 per set. Even more sizes will be available at good prices by the time the first buyers of the new Ford cars need tires.
  • nedc2nedc2 Member Posts: 192
    They're 215/60/17 tires, not wide low profile tires. Yes they are more money, and at this time hard to find replacements, or snow tires, though Michelin does offer their Artic Alpins in that size, but I don't know if going with 16" wheels woud have given enough clearance for the brakes on this car. They have 13" rotors on the rear!
  • dae3dae3 Member Posts: 55
    Most people that buy a new car don't have the slightest clue what size wheels/tires are on it. They don't even think to ask. If you don't believe me just go stand near the counter in the Sears automotive section. Most of the people will not know what size wheels they have or if their car has the 4 or 6 cylinder engine. They do know that the wheels on that new Ford look pretty cool.

    Also, as has been stated here previously, as these cars start to need tires replaced, the tire manufacturers will start to make them in higher volumes which will lead to lower costs.
  • samnoesamnoe Member Posts: 731
    "I agree. If anything, the car is NOT overpriced. However, there is no need for the base model to wear 17 inch tires. 16s are class competitive and would have served just fine..."

    I know you're a Toyota guy, so if Ford puts 17" tires while Toyota not, you complain that 16" are class competitive...

    ...But when Ford does not offer the LED gauges (as the new Camry) then you complain "where is the LED gauges?"... (post #1127)

    I think that LED instrument cluster belongs to the luxury cars, and Toyota would never offer them in the Camry if Honda would not start using them in the Accord. But that's not the norm. I do agree with you that the white-faced gauges are not practical, but nice clear meters, with chrome surroundings is very good and competitive. We don't need the LED in low-end vehicles. So Toyota is doing some things more than the competitor, and Ford is, too.
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    Um, what? Toyota guy? I own a Nissan and my dad just bought a Subaru, which I LOVE.

    Not for anything, but I expect that Toyota will put 17s on the next Avalon, but I dont believe there will be an Avalon at sub $23K.

    LED instrumentation is an upscale feature and will not need to be replaced after 40,000 miles, and again after another 40,000, etc. as will 17 inch tires, which impose a far greater cost to the consumer than does whatever incremental expense there is for the upgrade from analog gauges. Honda started the LED trend on mainstream vehicles, and IMO, it was a great move-the Accords displays are outstanding- legible and attractive, and they are on the 2005+ Camrys as well.

    Also, I didnt say that all the 500s should have 16 inch tires, just the base model, whose purchases will obviously be dictated by a preference for lower cost over extra features. I will say that 18 inchers are a bit excessive even for the top end models, IMO, on a car with no sporting pretensions, or even a lot of power.

    ~alpha
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    Just on a personal note, like something totally from the sidelines....

    If someone CAN'T AFFORD the tires, what are they doing buying a new vehicle ? Why not settle for something used and much more economical, than having to extend themselves to the furthest limit allowed?
  • samnoesamnoe Member Posts: 731
    Alpha, don't take it personal... I really like to read your posts and you are very informative. I just couldn't understand why on one feature you get hot and the other one you blame... I have many more questions on some of your posts, but not always have the time to post back.

    I know you own a Nissan, I just meant to say that you're very active on Toyota Camry and Avalon boards, and I see from your posts the 'respect' you have for Toyota.

    And I understand that. Toyota, as well as Honda, have excellent engineering and producing quality vehicles which are very reliable too. And we all know that Ford is miles behind that level, though they're on track and getting much better, after losing market share and sales is dropping like never before.

    I'm pretty sure Ford will have LED instrumentation in the near future (as always, they copy features from Toyota many years after), and with the new 3.5 Duratec, the 500 will be more competitive.

    BTW, I found this article and I think every word is true. Very good article, and FORD! Please read it!

    http://autoextremist.com/page2.shtml#Rant
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosinsider/0409/21/c01-279950.htm
  • n144gn144g Member Posts: 7
    I went to a dealer recently after setting up an appointment to test drive the Montego. When I got there I was told there was a mistake and they would not have one to see for another week or two. While there I was looking at a Subaru Outback Sedan. The dealer told me "In his opinion, the Subaru had a better quality interior than the Mercury". Your opinions please:
    Is what he is saying true, or was he just saying this because he has the Subarus on hand but no Montego's yet? I'm not sure I trust him because he told me he had the Montego when I set up the appointment; then none was there when I arrived.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Member Posts: 1,565
    Sounds like a classic dealer bait and switch to me. How can he judge the interior of a Montego he likely hasn't even sat in yet? He wants to sell you a Subaru because it is on his lot and tying up his money inventory. Scratch this dealer off your list. At the very least, wait until you get into a Montego and judge for yourself.
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    I've seen both... And the Montego has better quality materials than the Subbie. And because of rarity in parts, I surely wouldn't want to get stuck in a small town waiting for parts on that thing...

    So yes, bait and hook. Once they have you in the dealership, chances are your much more willing to buy something... Than say, missing the opportunity and having you leave and probably buy something else, elsewhere.

    Plus, majority of sales people have not yet sat in a Montego to judge such a thing.
  • mariner7mariner7 Member Posts: 509
    I saw first 500, at night so not a very good look. It looks like the quality is at least a notch above Taurus. I like the front lens. You know how many imports now have fancy lens, just to project an image of quality. 500 has that too.

    But it seems too big, close to a Continental in size. I hope Accord/Camry don't grow to that size, or else the streets will be clogged! Duratec 3.0 will have a hard time moving all that weight.

    It's interesting to see if 500 or Fusion will be the volume leader for Ford. Size might be a detriment for 500. Maybe the average of the two would be ideal in size.
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    Actually it's just 2-3inches longer than a Taurus. What the 500 does is maximize interior space. SO it gives you a much larger interior, with trim outside porportions. Just as how the Focus redesfined it's segment with it's trim overall packaging, yet very accomodating interior.
  • barjonbarjon Member Posts: 27
    I also just saw my first Five Hundred in person, and it's a great looking car. In fact, it's massive. I'd think anyone who drives an SUV to feel "safe" should feel safe in this car.

    However, as big and tall as the Five Hundred is, at 6'4" tall, my head touched the edge of the moonroof cutout with the seatback in a comfortable driving position. In 2000 I had to special order a Taurus SEL without a moonroof for that reason.

    More disappointing to me, though, was the Audiophile Sound System in this Five Hundred Limited. It didn't come close in power or sound quality to the Mach Audio System in my Taurus, which rocks! One reason is the lack of speakers high on the front doors, behind the side mirrors. Unfortunately, there's no other sound system upgrade.

    With 62,000 trouble-free miles in 4 years, I plan on keeping my Taurus for another 4 years. Hopefully by then the Five Hundred will have more power, both under the hood and in the sound system.
  • exalteddragon1exalteddragon1 Member Posts: 729
    But in one or two years ford plans on introducing the 3.5L Duritech v6 with 240-250 hp. Mated to the Five-hundreds apparently wonderful transmissions, it should be a major boost and well worth the wait.
    If the Mercury Montego is not out yet, when it does come out you could try it out, according to media.ford.com the Montego will have an available "Audiophile AM/FM stereo with six-CD changer and subwoofer". It might be the same system that was in the Five-Hundred you sat in, though. Did that system have a subwoofer?
  • ederzawiecederzawiec Member Posts: 61
    I disagree with mariner7. The very reason I'm interested in the 500 is that it is larger than other mid-priced family sedans.

    The Accord, Camry, and Taurus cannot comfortably accomodate my teenage son and daughter in the back seat without hitting their heads (we are all about 6'). The only vehicle less than $30K that can fit a more mature family is the Avalon, which is pretty dated. Or the Chrysler 300, whose base model RWD is not a great feature in Maine.

    Seems over the years, Mid-priced sedans have gotten smaller and more scarce.

    My point is there is not much to choose from in this size class and I'm too practical for an SUV alternative. I look forward to the New Avalon and Passat designs to provide more options in this segment. If Camry and the Accord go this route that would suite my family needs even better.
  • barjonbarjon Member Posts: 27
    Yes, the sound system I listened to in the Five Hundred Limited is the same one, with subwoofer, that you mentioned will be available in the Montego.
  • grbeckgrbeck Member Posts: 2,358
    I saw two Five Hundreds at the local dealer, both SELs. The car looks good - better than in the photos. The VW/Audi resemblance is less pronounced in real life.
  • mschmalmschmal Member Posts: 1,757
    I'm glad that Ford is finally catching up with the competition.

    Remember when 14 inch wheels and drum brakes were the norm? If you peeps think that the 17 and 18 inch tires are not the norm, then you aren't paying attention, a new trend is evolving.

    Standard on 500 are P215/60R17 tires while the 18 inch on the Limited are P225/55R18 tires.

    Standard on Chrysler 300 are P215/65TR17 tires.
    Step up to the 300c and you get P225/60HR18 tires.

    Ok the 500 has slightly lower profile tires. but the widths are comparable and we are talking about 17 inch and 18 inch tires on both cars.

    To continue,
    2005 Nissan Altima: standard on 3.5se are P215/55HR17 all season. Notice that these are the same width as 17inch tires are the 500 and the 300 but the profile is even lower...but again, 17 inch tires.

    Why bigger tires? For one thing, cars are weighing more now,hence the need for bigger brakes and therefore bigger wheels and tires. Also,

    Other vehicles seem to be back at the 15 inch 16 inch stage.

    Malibu LT P215/60R16.
    Accord EX v6 P205/60R16 all season.
    Avalon XLS P205/65HR15 (this is premium?)
    Passat GLXv6 P205/55HR16 all season
    The last info on the last four is for 2004 models.

    If you aren't quite sure what all those numbers mean, read this short article: http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/techcenter/articles/43859/article.html.

    Anyway, like very thing else, tires are subject to supply and demand pricing.

    Obviously as larger tires become the norm-which appears to be the trend-supply will go up to meet the demand and prices will go down. The trend of lower prices will increase as older cars are replaced by newer cars with bigger wheels and there is less demand for those small tires at which time factories will switch the capacity from smaller tires to larger tires increase the supply and further lowering the price.

    I remember paying $800 for a microwave(ok that was my dad,)
    $400 for a VCR
    $200 for a single disc CD player.
    $500 for a DVD player.
    $150 for a 300 baud modem.
    $300 for a 9 pin dot matrix printer. etc....
    Now adjust those prices for inflation... egads!!!

    Anyway, who says insomnia isn't useful.
    Mark
  • mariner7mariner7 Member Posts: 509
    Passat will be about the size of Fusion, because VW builds and sells it as a world car. Camry and Accord are so big because they're US market only cars. Anywhere else Accord is the TSX.

    I just don't think our streets need to be congested by oversized sedans & SUV's, usually occupied only by the driver. Individual situations vary, but fact remains that the ratio of car per driver is steadily going up, meaning car trips are carrying fewer and fewer passengers. So please Honda/Toyota/Nissan, do not make your next generations so gigantic.

    500 is so large mainly by default, because its underpinning Volvo platform is for a large car.
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    Actually Volvo's P2 platform is quite small. Ever try to sit in the back of an S60 ? I gave up on it... What the P2 platform allows is for all dimensions to be increased, while maintaining it's overall strength in rigidity. Ford just maximized the platform, and even yet, it can still be stretched a bit more if need be.

    Ford's new CD3 architecture allows for the same... We know it as Mazda6 platform, but it'll be the basis for the Fusion (much larger), new SUV's, minivans, etc. And yet, started with the small Mazda6 platform.
  • bobbymcgee1980bobbymcgee1980 Member Posts: 11
    Big is why I like the 500 (I learned to drive in a huge '70's land cruiser!). Of course, I've been to ever Ford & Mercury dealership between Dickenson and Galveston, and none have the car in stock yet.
    As far as tires go...Maybe I should wait a year or two before trying to swing for a brand new car, but the 500 seems almost perfect for me. Come to think of it, if a bigger engine is coming out in a year or two, I might wait anyway. My finances would definately be better, the car would have any first year bugs shaken out, as well as fifty more horsepower. The only thing is, I'm not sure my current car will hang on another two years. I think it's gonna need transmission work before too much longer. I also don't want to buy before at least looking at the 500, because I want the next car I buy to last at least ten years.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    bobbymcgee1980 - If your present vehicle is depreciated enough that you can not get much for it, and it only needs a $2,000 transmission rebuild to go another two years, it seems reasonable to keep it.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Member Posts: 1,565
    Odd, I just checked inventory on line at the Ford dealer closest to me and they had three listed on their website already! I haven't dropped by to check them out, though, as I won't be in the market for quite a while.
  • nvbankernvbanker Member Posts: 7,239
    An excellent point, and illustrative, once again, about the strange phenomenon and stigma that Ford seems to attach to Ford. Chrysler puts big wheels on, Nissan puts big wheels on, nobody cares. Ford puts the same wheels on, it's shameful! What is up with this?
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Member Posts: 1,565
    Detroit Free Press review.
    www.freep.com/money/autoreviews/fivehu23_20040923.htm

    This guy stated 0-60 with 6 speed front wheel drive version was 7.9 seconds. I don't know how accurate that is, but that should be plenty for most people, especially in a car this size and with good mpg as well. That is faster than my Taurus Duratec does, with a lighter vehicle.

    His main complaints were the wheel well encroached on front leg room, and that 0-30 acceleration was not that good. Note, it will be interesting to get comparisons of the 6 speed and the CVT acceleration performance. I haven't seen any published information yet. On would expect the CVT to do better due to not losing any time switching gears and being able to operate the engine more in its peak torque range during acceleration.

    Otherwise, didn't have enough "bling" ala Chrysler 300C for him, but that's OK with me. Bling is only skin deep.

    He was impressed with the interior, however, stating it is better than Accord, which is quite a milestone.
  • exalteddragon1exalteddragon1 Member Posts: 729
    Thats defenetly an issue, you know its allot like political double standards and media bias too.
    Hey you know the wheels, although looking ridiculous on cars like the new Maxima, look appropriate on the 500. 18 inch wheels on a car of this size are exactly whats needed to keep things fresh and interesting.
  • nvbankernvbanker Member Posts: 7,239
    I agree. The wheels look like they belong there. So, I guess the customerizers will need to find some other way to "pimp the ride"....
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    Nah. I don't remember any of the FOMOCO wheels having spinners! Or very low profile tires! :)
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    Badger,

    From personal observation, the 6 speed automatic unit kicks off the line quickly the first few yards. Whereas the CVT just builds up momentum and continues on. So it's really just seat of the pant feeling that I continiously notice.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-09/24/content_2014748.htm
  • mschmalmschmal Member Posts: 1,757
    Off topic, but chrome spinners are standard equipment on the 2005 Mustang V6 Premium Coupe!

    They are designed to look like "Knock offs"

    Mark
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Member Posts: 1,565
    He means spinner wheels that have a separate element that keeps spinning after the wheels have stopped rolling, not a center knock-off simulated wheel retention device.

    You have to get with the "Bling-Bling" pimp my ride lingo, not the 60's sports car terminology. :)
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