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Honda Civic vs. Hyundai Sonata
Don't get this wrong. I'm not beating on the Civic but I priced the Civic LX automatic and EX automatic w/o Nav. I compared the prices with the 2006 Sonata GLS and GLS V6.
It turned out EX MSRP is 19,810, Invoice is 18,164, TMV is 19,289. Compared to the Sonata GLS V6 with a moonroof MSRP is 22,395, Invoice is 20,661, TMV is 21,039. Subtract the 2,500 Incentive from the TMV and the price comes to 18,539, a difference of 750. A larger car, passenger room and trunk, a V6 engine, and $750 cheaper!
The Civic LX MSRP is 18,060, Invoice is 16,568, TMV is 17,596. Compared with the Sonata GLS with no added options MSRP is 19,995, Invoice is 18,496, TMV is 18,817. Subtract the 1,500 Incentive from the TMV and the price comes to 17,317. A larger car, 20 more horses, and $279 cheaper.
I hear that the 2006 Civic is having problems with faulty struts. My price range is under 20,000. I'm looking at all my options. One thing I like about the Civic is the gas mileage, the new styling, and the IIHS gold rating but the Sonata with the incentives makes a pretty good deal.
It turned out EX MSRP is 19,810, Invoice is 18,164, TMV is 19,289. Compared to the Sonata GLS V6 with a moonroof MSRP is 22,395, Invoice is 20,661, TMV is 21,039. Subtract the 2,500 Incentive from the TMV and the price comes to 18,539, a difference of 750. A larger car, passenger room and trunk, a V6 engine, and $750 cheaper!
The Civic LX MSRP is 18,060, Invoice is 16,568, TMV is 17,596. Compared with the Sonata GLS with no added options MSRP is 19,995, Invoice is 18,496, TMV is 18,817. Subtract the 1,500 Incentive from the TMV and the price comes to 17,317. A larger car, 20 more horses, and $279 cheaper.
I hear that the 2006 Civic is having problems with faulty struts. My price range is under 20,000. I'm looking at all my options. One thing I like about the Civic is the gas mileage, the new styling, and the IIHS gold rating but the Sonata with the incentives makes a pretty good deal.
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A Civic is not a Sonata! Sonata is aimed at Accord. In the Sonata/Accord war,,, Honda wins. As Accordian like as the civic is. The new Accord will be out in a year. aHonda V6 will always lay waiste to a Korean mill.
To be in a position like yours shoping price point is what the Koreans hope will happen. They have came a long way. Honda will be running year end on current Accords in a few weeks. I would never cross shop a Sonata/Civic. But I would darn sure put Accord up against it in a heart beat. As dated as Hondas J30 V6 is its a war horse compared to Sonata's mill. Fact is I would buy a Ford Fuzion over a Sonata. I would never buy a auto Civic.
as good as Sonata is,,,, its not Civic or Accord.
I think the Civic is the better car. It wins on styling, mpg and resale. My Coupe had a bad rear shock that took half a day to replace. I would expect a Sonata to go back for warranty work at least once, so I think they're cpmparable there, too.
Civic would make sense if fuel economy is a major priority.
As a Accord/Civic owner,,, its not in the same class. Please go get the Sonata and enjoy it.
I set here looking at my Hondas. The I4 Accord is a work of art! The Civic with its teething problems is ,, still state of art. The next gen Accord is going to be awsome. Civic did a funeral today with grace.
Please buy a Sonata.......
Personally, the Accord is too common. Everyone and their mother has one and being that its common and in demand means dealers won't deal. Your more likely to pay closer to sticker price for V6 Accord, which isn't in my price range. I'm just trying to get the most for my money.
Just check out the Accord Deals forum here for details.
The complaints I see about the Sonata are things like incomplete steering wheel audio controls and lack of aux input rather than transmission failures and other mechanical problems.
Really seems like the 40 mpg highway mileage of the Civic is the best reason to buy it over a Sonata. You will probably get around 10 mpg higher mileage city and highway in a Civic and that is a lot of gas savings.
In my case, I really like my Civic but the quality has been extremely disappointing.
Helpful Hint: Complete sentences with proper punctuation will help you get YOUR point across. Your posts are hard to read!
It is pretty clear that Hyundai quality is at least up to and above average for a few years now. The owners complaints have drastically fallen off. Unless they are all brainwashed and there is some major conspiracy keeping the complaints of poor quality stifled, Hyundai quality is not a "con" vs similarly priced new cars.
To those who would like to seriously compare these cars, here's your place to do so.
To those who so far have been more interested in flinging insults around, you need to find another sandbox to play in.
I was looking at this forum as a major decesion maker , where people share their experiences in a positive outlook.
So here is what I am looking for , I have a 20K budget and I need to decide 2006 Civic or 2006 Sonata.
I have test driven a Sonata V6 & CIVIC.
We are forced to compared two different vehicles as , Hyundai just thought to eat the small sedan market with it's OUT OF THE BOX pricing norms.
> I am thrilled looking at the New Dash Board Lay out of CIVIC ,digital speedometer,a fighter plan cockpit looks, the whole new body change , the road manners and mileage.
> Sonata V6 a Silent Machine , which says much abt the power it can offer at a cost much cheaper then CIVIC.Sonata is spacious,excellent interiors,gr8 looks.It has a look of an executive car.Mileage is at par with the cars of it's class - like the camry or accord.
I was thrilled to buy CIVIC , even if a EX 2006 is costing abt 21K.I wanted that whole new experience of the CIVIC and was ready to pay for it.
But a Sonata V4 comes 5K lesser then Civic.
I am looking at a long term car where I least expect any Technical problems .So, after I read the problems faced by owners of 2006 CIVIC , I was thinking are we living on false pride saying I love Honda , even if I am not getting value for money OR is that Honda lovers are not able to get the Heat from Hyundai.
Do not take me otherwise as we need to get the BIGGER picture.I am passionate about cars and I am no STAR who has big bucks to maintain Expensive cars.
So I want a good fuel efficent cars , no technical problems and do not want to sit at a dealer place and crib why did I buy...
So I request all of you in this forum to come out with a WIN WIN situation for these CARS , who have made their mark in their own way...
What should I go for ?
I have no regrets about my choice getting the Civic. Though they are two different animals. As stated earlier only the price makes the Sonata an option.
The Civic is constantly getting 31+mpg on the same daily trips, and on a recent trip was getting 41 with the AC on.
I am saving about 70 in fuel and also on insurance. The Sonata had a insurance symbol of 18(like a camaro) and the Civic has a 12. This saved me another 63 a month! :shades:
For me this is a WIN WIN situation. I would try the Civic and see what you think. All cars have issues on the first year run. But don't take in stone what you read on the net beacuse ALL cars have issues and people write mostly the negatives.
Safety was a concern for me too and this swayed me to the Civic since it was a GOLD pick for the IIHS: http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=603
Look at the Sonata: http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=562
I think HONDA did its homework! Good Luck and take one for a drive..if you dont like it, try something else.
I bought a new '06 Sonata GLS for $15,800 (some people have done even better). The MSRP is $19,995. Resale value is based on MSRP so i think Sonata owners will do quite well in that regard! Sonata's aren't selling at great prices because they are POS's either. The '07's (minor changes over the '06's) are coming out so there are big rebates and incentives. Plus, as everyone knows, Hyundai must beat Honda/Toyota on price.
The car rides smooth. It's quiet and comfy inside - a lot roomier than a Civic. People aren't reporting many problems with the Sonata's either. When purchased at a good price, the 5yr TCO is equivelant to a Civic...That is saying a lot! 5yr TCO easily beats the Camry and Accord. Add the 5yr/60K mi bumper to bumper warranty and the 10yr/100K mi powertrain warranty, and you've got a pretty good package.
I can't deny that the Civic is a great car, and I very seriously considered purchasing it. However, the Sonata made a lot of economic sense...you are getting a mid-sized sedan that is as economical as a Civic.
I looked around for a replacement for a while to replace the Sonata and I found my nook with the Civic...it does what I need it too and well. If you want to check into the Sonata I had it is probably still at Hendrick Honda in Charlotte....I am sure they will give you a good deal! :lemon:
Do you have a real heavy foot on the gas pedal and hit your brakes often?
My Sonata, an '05 with the 2.7 L engine, is rated at 19/27. When it wasn't fully broken in I got just under 29 MPG (highway) with the cruise set at 70. Maybe the 3.3L will get a bit less than the 2.7L, but I find it hard to believe that it would be 4 mpg less. And that rotor issue; just how many times and how hard did you hit the brakes for the rotors to warp in only 300 miles? I don't care what make of car, the best to the worst, that doesn't happen unless there is extreme abuse of the brakes (which could be necessary to avoid an accident).
You did not mention how fast you drove Sonata to get that mpg. If you drive your CIVIC at 100 miles per hour, you probably get less than 24.9 mpg and your CIVIC will not last long.
Although my experiences with the Camrys was great I'm now considering buying the '07 Sonata based upon everything I've read and researced on the Sonata vs. the Camry.
The fact that the Sonata, other than the engine, is now assembled almost completely by robots is, in my opinion, a big plus.
she chose over sonata month ago because she thought sonata was just too big for her. we almost bought lx v6 for 18750 OTD, then changed at the last minute.
so far we are giving 7.5/10 for civic because we are somewhat disappointed in build quality, AC(not cold, noisy), stain prone cloth seat, small leg room(my knee touches the parking break), no trunk key lock(LX model), radio(am is really really bad)and reverse noise.
maybe we were just spoiled by sonata rental's(driven 8 of them) comfort.
If you do some research on the internet, you can get an awesome deal on the Civic. I got my 05 Accord V6 EX w/ alloy wheel, moonroof, leather seats, spoiler, etc for only 24,500$ (including tax and fee and bought it last August) and 2.9%APR from dealer. THAT IS THOUSANDS OF SAVING!. go there w/ a per-approved car loan and threaten them. calculate 5% profit from the invoice price and no more and no less! then minus any incentive Honda is offered = the price u should pay.
Ex:
1000$ (invoice) * 1.05 = 1050$ - 100$ (Incentive) = 950$
GO FOR THE Civic or an Accord PLEASE! save you time and money!