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  • jcortneyjcortney Member Posts: 7
    I gave up on the run flat tires some time ago and now travel without a spare. I carry a can of flat tire fix, a plug kit and a 12 volt air compressor and last but not least AAA. My gut told me to run away from the run flat tires and I did not listen. I would not carry a spare loose in the van incase of an accident as that would not be any fun.

    Jim
  • tnt2011tnt2011 Member Posts: 2
    We purchased our XLE AWD with 15K on it. At 18K the rear RFT were torn up on the inside. The dealer we purchased the car from replaced all the tires. At 30k the same thing happened and with a family member dieing, I had to fork out $1000.00 for whole new set. At 55k the third set was shot shot so we purchased standard tires from a local America's tire shop. They lasted only 38k when we were in a fender bender and they were warrantied for 80. $200.00 for a whole new set, now at 94k the set we have is the best set of all.
    So what is the story on this class action suite, please send me a link or two. Thanks.
  • tnt2011tnt2011 Member Posts: 2
    All of sudden our AC system stopped working tonight. It worked for less than 2miles. I pulled into a gas station turned off the car filled it with gas and when I started the car. NO AC, it's 87 at 9:30pm in Fresno, CA and my whole family is in the car with the windows down for a 20min ride home.
    Any suggestions, tips...
    Oh, we have the 100k extended warranty, does this qualify?
    Thanks for any input :)
  • fdemetzfdemetz Member Posts: 6
    The story on the class action suite that I heard from my dealer (I didn't get it in writing) of my 2005 Sienna, XLE AWD was that the Run Flat Tires did not live up to the mileage warranty so there was a class action suit filed by some group (of owners?) that was settled with Toyota agreeing to give each vehicle I free set of the same kind of RFTs. From your second sentence it sounds like your dealer did that? When my "free" second set of RFT started failing at 17.7K miles my dealer said there was no further warranty, so I went and bought a set of 60,000 miles standard tires from a Goodyear tire store and the compact spare I mentioned. So far so good, but I've only got a 1000 miles on them at this point. The Goodyear Dealer did an alignment check on my AWD and said the year wheels were "bowed" outward (not vertical) but there was no adjustment mechanism to correct this. I haven't confirmed this with Toyota. This might be why your tires were worn on the "inside". So you might want to check on this. Otherwise the car has provided excellent reliability and is great to drive. I usually keep my cars for 200k miles, so I hope to get more than 38K miles on my standard tires.........we'll see. Good luck with yours.
  • kellyjean2011kellyjean2011 Member Posts: 2
    My Sienna has 66,000 miles. I have the tires rotated and balanced every 5000 miles. My first set was the Michelins that came with it. The second two sets were Toyo. Tonight, we just had a flat on the interstate. The treads on the tires are already worn down and we are ready for our fourth set. Ugh. :mad:
  • akinakin Member Posts: 24
    I have a 2008 Sienna. I need to replace the tires. The van has 225/60/R17 tires. I want to get the Michelin Primacy MV4 because they are rated excellent in all conditions. However, the closest size they come in is 235/60/R17. According to my calculations this increases tire with by 3/8" and the total diameter by almost 1/2". This in increases the speed by about 1.3%. So if the speedometer indicates 100 mph, the vehicle will actually by doing 101.3 mph.

    All these changes seen very insignificant. Are there any technical reasons why I would not be able to upgrade to this tire size? Does it damage the vehicle in any way? The ABS, the suspension, the transmission?

    The 2011 Sienna actually comes with this exact size and tire. Any reason why we could not use this tire on the 2008 Sienna?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Ask if the tire shop will even mount it first. Some times they won't.

    The usual industry standard is +/- 3%, and you are well within that.
  • matterwmatterw Member Posts: 7
    I have the 2006 Sienna and the dealer replaced the tires once and I replaced the tirres once. Did I mention I only have 63k miles?!? I looked at putting on conventional but don't want t lose the room. After doing some research I found out there the dealer puts on the OEM tires which have NO warranty. The Bridgestone EL400's which I have only found TireRacpk to sell DOES come with a warranty. I am tring the EL400s now and we'll see what happens...
  • bhoward99bhoward99 Member Posts: 27
    2009 Sienna Limited FWD 20K miles. The van has Bridgestone Turanza EL42 225/60R17.

    The front tire tread is down to 2/32 and the back tire tread is 6/32.
    Toyota Dealerships have rotated the tires twice at 12K and 16K.
    We think there was actually a 3rd rotation done at 8K, but its not documented.
    Dealership is willing to give us a $160 credit toward 2 new tires of our choice.

    Since I am keeping the 2 rear tires, any suggestions as to what brand / model
    of tire to replace the 2 front tires ? Any benefit with buying another pair of Bridgestone's
    of a different model/type in terms of ride and handling ?

    Has anyone else had issues with Bridgestone Turanza ?
  • capriracercapriracer Member Posts: 907
    From the data you presented, I don't think the tires were rotated - or at least not rotated as indicated The numbers are exactly what I would expect with no rotation.

    More importantly, I think the wear rate is pretty good when you take the whole picture into account. If the tires had been properly rotated, they would have gone over 30K.
  • mamabaermamabaer Member Posts: 1
    Just bought 2005 Sienna AWD LE, with non-run-flat tires. There is no spare tire, nor room to store a spare. What is the best solution for this problem? Can I use a mini-spare with AWD, just to get to a repair station? Is there a retro-fit kit to store a spare inside or under the vehicle? Since we use the can mostly for long distance trips, we need to have a way to fix a flat tire.... Any suggestions from your experiences would be most welcome!
  • handrichhandrich Member Posts: 2
    If you are close to a Sam's Club, I would get a membership and purchase a set of Michelin X Radials. They are rated for 80,000 miles and Sam's will rotate them for free every 6,000 miles. I put them on my 2000 Sienna and got 75,000 out of them. I currently own a 2006 Sienna Limited and replaced the original Bridgstones with Michelin X Radials.
  • bhoward99bhoward99 Member Posts: 27
    Being very particular, I always mark the tires before I take them in to be rotated, and check them afterwards. The tires were indeed rotated both times or the service guy saw my markings, and remarked the tires.

    In summary, we bought (2) new Hankook Optimo tires from the dealership where we bought the car. The dealership put them on, balanced, and re-aligned. Between the coupons and the manager discount for the tires wearing so quickly, we paid about $130.

    After driving the car for about 2 weeks now with the new tires, no issues, and a quiet ride. BTW We still have the Bridgestones still on the rear.
  • jcortneyjcortney Member Posts: 7
    I also have a 2009 AWD Sienna. I changed to non run flat tires many miles ago and also do a lot of long distance trips. I do not carry a spare but rather have a can of flat tire fix, a plug kit, an 12v air pump and AAA. With the run flat tires i must have had at least 5 flat tires and I have not had one with the current set of tires. On the one long trip where I had a RFT tire go down on me I only got about 40 miles until the fire was throwing rubber up onto the windshield. Had to be towed to a tire shop that had been in business for 35 years. He finally gave up when the only thing on the rim were the two beads. Spent the night at a motel and was towed the next day to another town where there was a Toyota dealer but the Toyota dealer did not provide tire service as they contracted that out to a tire shop in town. In a half hour I was on my way. So even with RFT tires you still do not have a reliable spare and can not always get tire service done. I think RFT tires attract nails and screws as in my 50 years of driving I have never had so many flat tires as with the RFT!
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    edited September 2011
    You are correct in that there is no room in the middle right undercarriage spot for the spare (that comes with FWD vans), as the driveshaft for AWD passes thru that zone. However, if you look at the left rear seat well, you will notice a slight bumpout front and back that gives just enough space for a tire to fit. This is also where you would put the punctured full sized tire to get it home, as even on the FWD vans there isn't sufficient depth for the real tire to go underneath in place of the spacesaver spare.

    At one time, Toyota offered a kit that contained a spacesaver spare, lockdown hardware, and a cover that went into that well. The downside is that you will no longer be able to stow the left seat as the well is now full.

    They haven't offered the kit in years as there apparently was no demand. If you are interested, I can dig up the part numbers for purchase individually at the parts counter, or you can check wrecking yards and e-bay. At minimum you need the 155/80-R17 tire & matching wheel, plus some hardware to hold it down. The expense matching cover is something you can fabricate from some plywood & foam.

    Spare tires are disappearing in many car lines, replaced by a pump kit that contains Slime or similar waterbased product. Personally, I'm not crazy about that solution as there are reports of damaged tire pressure sensors as a result. But I suppose that the possibility of having to replace a $100 sensor is way better than being stranded without a spare.
  • divinerdiviner Member Posts: 2
    Hi there everyone, I'm hoping someone can help because it seems nobody (even at Toyota!) can give me a straight answer. I currently have 215/65R16 tires on my 2007 Toyota Sienna CE. Can I use a set of winter tires from my previous car that is 225/65R17? I am getting mixed answers depending on who I speak with as apparently the car can accomodate 17inch tires, but no one knows for sure.

    Thank you very much!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited October 2011
    My guess is no...

    The industry standard would allow for a variance of +/- 3%, and that's well more than 3% bigger.

    You're likely to get rubbing in the front wheel well, especially at full steering lock when you hit a bump.
  • divinerdiviner Member Posts: 2
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    The stock sizes used on these vans vary from 27" to 27.6". Your carry-over size has a 28.5" diameter. That is a bit tall for these wheel wells, although it might fit if centered correctly.

    I think a lot depends on what wheels these will be mounted on. I too am carrying over winter wheels and tires from my old Honda Odyssey to a 2008 Sienna I bought this year. While your tire is not exactly stock, mounting them to a wheel with a slightly different offset could make it work by moving the centerline in or out very slightly to provide clearance.

    As I am a 'regular' at TireRack, I appealed to them for advice. It turns out that with a different centering ring, my Honda aftermarket wheels & tires will fit. Try giving them a call.
  • tomracinetomracine Member Posts: 1
    I am thinking of purchasing the EL400 RFT. They look,great on paper. How are they compare to the Dunlops? Any quieter? What's about ride and wear.

    Thx
    To,
  • roseman4roseman4 Member Posts: 1
    I purchased a used 05 Sienna XLE FWD not AWD. I have a good spare under and have had to use it once. I have 55K miles and need to replace the tires. Any suggestions? Want good handling, quiet, and (of course) good milage. I have had a lot of problems keeping it aligned and the people at the tire store tell me that the Sienna is notorious for having alignment problems. Is this true or are they just trying to sell me their expensive alignment package? I have had it aligned every 8K and it seems to always end up pulling to the right after about 3K. Is this unusual or do I need to take it somewhere else? Any comments will be appreciated.
  • teriannlvteriannlv Member Posts: 2
    I have a 2011 Sienna LE that I drove across country several times this spring and summer. I had all the regular maintance done and noe I am told that I need to replace all my tires and rear struts after just 42K miles. I am not an off roader and 90% of the miles on this car are freeway miles.

    This just doesn't seem right that these parts would wear out so soon (michelin tires).
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    Determining whether you need tires is pretty much a no-brainer for any adult to determine. You can use the 'top of Lincoln's head on a penny' to determine whether you are down to 2/32", or better yet hit an auto parts store and for less than $10 buy a real gauge so that you can monitor wear patterns with real accuracy. Seriously, if you cannot tell for your self whether you need tires or not, you really need to ask someone to show you how!!

    Determining the need for shocks & struts is certainly more difficult, and I strongly suggest that you get more info on why from your dealer, or better yet get a second opinion. Are they leaking? Do you have unusual tire wear patterns that suggest poor wheel damping control? Does the van continue to bounce? Either way, I agree - a year old van with under 50k should not need replacements unless you do really poor roads, carry excessive loads or tow.
  • cheapmancheapman Member Posts: 11
    looks like everyone has the same problem with the toyota sienna tires i have replace mine about 5 times since i bought in 2005 now has anyone considered a law suit against toyota i would like to join on that looks like a big defect on toyota my other car a 2000 toyota 4 runner has been replaced 2 times only
  • kenabrkenabr Member Posts: 9
    I have a 2011 Sienna SE. My dealer tells me that the tire loading notice on the door frame is subject to a recall because the vehicle loading information is wrong. Overloading of the wheels and tires could result. A new decal is being mailed to me. Does anyone know if this related to the design of the wheels or the Dunlop SP Sport 7000 tires which are 235/50-19. Only a few companies make this size and I wondered if going with Michelin Primacy MXN4 tires would have better load capacity.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Nope, just a sticker, that's all. Nothing wrong with the van.
  • kenabrkenabr Member Posts: 9
    My Sienna SE has 235/50-19 Dunlop SP Sport 7000 high performance-all season tires. I find the ride somewhat harsh especially on rough pavement. Has anyone upgraded to the Michelin Primacy MXV4 which is a grand touring all season ? Would they ride better or be a problem with the fact they aren't high performance.
  • rickrazzrickrazz Member Posts: 1
    How are your tires holding up so far? Was Toyota able to tilt your tires back in? My 2005 AWD has exactly the same problem. The outside to middle of the tires has good tread left on the non-flat tires that I put on. While rotating them, the Toyota technician noticed the inside of the tires are bald. The serviceman at Toyota doesn't seem to be aware of this being a common problem. He seems to think his experienced alignment specialist can fix whatever is happening, though I'm a bit skeptical seeing all the posts here.
  • fdemetzfdemetz Member Posts: 6
    Rick,
    After the replacement "free" set of run flats provided by Toyota due to class action suit also failed (tread separation and bubble on side wall) within 20,000 miles , I bought a set of standard Cooper tires, and a spare wheel and space saver tire from Toyota for the luggage area.

    They are wearing well and the ride and handling is much smoother than the run flats. The non-Toyota tire shop (GoodYear) said there was no way to set the real wheel camber to avoid the reported inside rear tire wear. I didn't check this with the Toyota dealer yet, because with 50,000 total on my 2005 AWD Sienna I haven't had that problem yet.

    All-in-all the Toyota has been the most trouble free car I've owned, and the only item (that was fortunately covered by my maintenance policy at purchase) that failed was the radar speed control sensor (which would have cost $1500), and a recalled seat belt latch. They build great minivans, they just screwed up big time with the run fats. The new Sienna's come with standard tires and a covered place for the space saver spare in the luggage area.
    Good luck,
    Fred
  • mnrep2mnrep2 Member Posts: 200
    My 2011 AWD Sienna still has run flat tires. In fact since these are 18 inch vs. my 2006's 17 inch diameter tires, the mini spare probably will not even sit flat in the driver side rear seat well anymore :cry:

    I still have my 2006 with a 102,000 miles and getting rid of the run flats is a GREAT idea as the van drives so much better without them. I currently have 11K on the 2011 and haven't had to replace the tires yet but will be going to standard tires when they wear out.

    Inflating the tires to around 40K and making sure the wheels are aligned will give you the most mileage on any set of tires with these cars.
  • indydriverindydriver Member Posts: 620
    edited April 2012
    Is anyone running this tire? I am buying a new 2012 XLE FWD that comes with OE Firestone FR710s and I'm thinking about replacing them with the tire above which is Bridgestone's top option now for FWD Siennas. It is rated 2-3 grades higher in nearly every category. Of course, it also costs about 50% more but, good tires (as we see by this thread) mean a lot.
  • mskwk48mskwk48 Member Posts: 1
    Hi, I have a 2011 Toyota Sienna for almost 2 years and 30K miles. The tires are terrible- poor handling and completely worm with tier belt comming thru: Rotates every 6 yo 7K, Kept High air PSI at about 39 all around. Could se the insode and outside edge wear at 20K. This will my last Toyota. I am replacing with A 660 Treadwear rating, 100V. I believe the tires and the suspension are way over loaded for the vehicle's weight. Based on the forum I wouldn't trust the RFT for any didstance. I will try to get some dounut spare rigged up or a cheaper steel rim and tire that I can carry for long distances. If enough people don't buy the car maybe they will change the very poor design - especially if oth auto Mfg's start offering an AWD with real tires.
  • indydriverindydriver Member Posts: 620
    edited May 2012
    We test drove AWD vs FWD and noticed the difference in ride and handling immediately. You'd have to be numb not to notice. Then, if you do your homework, you will discover that for $2300 Toyota gives you a low tech FWD biased AWD system, 230 extra pounds to drive around every day, which results in a loss of 2 mpg each and every drive. A little more homework would reveal that RFTs cost $300 each--twice a decent grand Touring tire--and most importantly, weigh 25% more. In the Sienna's case, that's 7 additional pounds of unsprung weight hung on each corner which (as we see) makes a very noticeable difference in ride and handling. Ever wonder why no one else offers an AWD minivan?

    If you are concerned about winter traction, the vast majority of drivers will be much better served by a FWD van with a second set of wheels and Blizzaks for half the price of AWD. It is not Toyota's fault that they offered this design compromise and ill-informed buyers don't understand what they are trading away to get AWD. So, blame yourself.

    OK, so you made a poor decision. Now what? Go to your local Firestone Complete Auto Care Center and have them rotate your Bridgestone RFTs for no charge. Then, have them check the alignment for no charge. If the alignment needs adjustment, pay them 2x for lifetime alignment an get it checked every time you rotate your tires. Check air pressure at least monthly and fill to the recommended pressure, which is 35 on my van. If you switch to non-RFTs, you must carry a spare somehow. Do not compound your mistake by subjecting your family to a vehicle that can get stranded. BTW-The Bridgestone Tire Advisor currently recommends the new Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia as its top-of-the-line for FWD Sienna. This new tire incorporates the latest LRR technology into their premium SUV/light truck tire and looks like a fantastic choice for Sienna. Just do not drive without a spare, please.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited May 2012
    Good advice - I got a flat tire in Bridgeville, DE, right in the middle of a 2.5 hour trip. I was more than an hour from home/beach condo. It was late at night with 2 kids sleeping in the back.

    Thankfully the (full-sized) spare was good. I check pressures even on the spare.

    Would have been a total nightmare without it.

    My Miata has no spare, a can of fix-a-flat instead, and I refuse to drive out of town with that car.
  • dhabuddhabud Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2012
    What kind of tire do you have on your 2012 Toyota Sienna.

    On my 2012 Sienna XLE FWD I have Firestone FR710 tires.

    I saw another 2012 Sienna XLE at a Gas station and it had some michellin tires. I asked the owner if he replaced it, he told me it just came with it. He had exactly same car as mines (no AWD)

    I would like to know why tires are different.
  • dhabuddhabud Member Posts: 3
  • capriracercapriracer Member Posts: 907
    It is unusual for vehicle manufacturers to source different brands of tires for a vehicle - except where different sizing is involved.

    However, Toyota seems to be the exception. They frequently multiple source tires. I suspect it is a fear of losing a supply of tires that match the specs.
  • victor23victor23 Member Posts: 201
    I basically agree with another poster. You don't even need a Lincoln, much less anything for $10, to say if you have to replace tires, just look at them (after asking someone or googling what to look at). My tires last only about 20k on the front, but my Sienna is 2005, and our driving is mostly city/suburban with a mixture of high-speed highway. As to struts, watch for tale-telling signs, or better ask for a second opinion (but don't inform them about the first one). About half of shops' recommendations are usually bogus.

    Having said that, I had a similar diagnosis once. In reality, it appeared to be low-quality tires (not the worst, mind you, Yokohama Avid TRZ) prematurely wearing out at the rear in a patchy pattern imitating that of bad struts.
  • batavia02batavia02 Member Posts: 38
    we have a 2010 sienna with 64 k miles on it and we are going to have to replace the tires again we put firestone fr380 in at 33k miles just went to the firestone shop and the firestone rep says the siennas all go through tires at 25 to 35 k miles i dont know about toyota reliabilty but i do know the siennas seem lousy on tires and yes i have roated and have front end aligned if i buy a van again it wont be a toyota mabe i will try the odssey,and dont let me forget to say the battery died around 30k also i have had gm suv's that went over 70k before i had to replace there battery.
  • jprocjproc Member Posts: 135
    The firestone guy is right.I have a 2000 with 175k and i have to get new tires every 30k miles or so.I also keep them inflated properly and rotated .
    Sienna's eat tires for some reason
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    FWIW I have 53k miles on the original Dunlops, but the non-run-flats tend to last longer.
  • victor23victor23 Member Posts: 201
    Yes, I know, we already shared our experiences a year or two ago. I don't know why, maybe hilly landscape or significant city component of our driving are the main contributors, but I stand by my (and seemingly a lot of other owners') numbers: 20k on the front axle (or 30k if you do rotate the tires), no matter the tire brand (OEM non-run-flat Dunlops, Yokohama Avid TRZ, Hankook Optimo H727), moderate driving style, no heavy loads, no alignment/balance problems, always inflated to 35 psi (cold).

    I also mentioned once that my Sienna brake pads are only good for 10-15k. This problem is now solved. It was solved when I reluctantly (and partly accidentally) switched finally from OEM to aftermarket brake pads.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited September 2012
    I do tend to do more highway driving than city.

    The van's been from DC to Florida twice, and CT probably 3 times. Plus countless times to the Eastern Shore of MD.

    Still, very happy these tires have lasted this long, brake pads as well. They owe me nothing.
  • teriannlvteriannlv Member Posts: 2
  • dtownfbdtownfb Member Posts: 2,918
    Minivans in general are hard on brakes and tires. 25k-30k on tires is not out of the ordinary; Same thing with brakes. The Michelin Primacy on my 2004 Quest lasted 51k miles. Needless to say, i replaced them with the same brand.
  • isobretatelisobretatel Member Posts: 2
    On my Sienna 2004, the nut that holds the spare tire cable, has pentagonal shape.
    The manual says that the wheel nut wrench should be used to release the spare tire. The wheel nut wrench, which came with the car, has hexagonal shape, so it does not fit the nut.
    Did I miss something?
  • isobretatelisobretatel Member Posts: 2
  • fibber2fibber2 Member Posts: 3,786
    No, you didn't miss something - they changed things when you weren't looking.

    Your van came with a spare tire winch that had a standard 21 mm hex head. Problem is people torqued the hell out of this with everything from impact guns on down, and this *may* have been a factor in damaging the anti-rust coatings, severe rusting, cable breakage, loose spare tires rolling free down highways, etc.

    So as part of the recall, they changed the head to something non-standard, and they should have given you the special socket in a little black pouch, and tossed it in with the jack. You hook it to the little metal bar (speed drive tool) also back there to hoist it up and down. There should also be a yellow label on the base of the pillar telling more.
  • ustadgiustadgi Member Posts: 2
    I have 2013 Toyota sienna base. My tire size is P235/60R17. Can I use tire size P235/65R17? Thanks.
  • capriracercapriracer Member Posts: 907
    Not according to Discount Tire.

    Besides, Tire Rack lists 33 different tires available in that size - excluding winter tires - so why are you wondering about changing tire size when there are so many options in the correct size?
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