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NAV system problems...Go To It
.....have a 2007 avalon with a GPS....I can not tell you how many times this thing has taken me astray...Ihave told the dealer to no avail. I have called the toyota home office and they say they have no complaints about the GPS system...
Toyota America is lying to you. I finally got results after I called Toyota in Japan (Tokyo)and sent them documentation of my travails with the factory representative who saw my car malfunction and said that there was nothing wrong with the system. A certified letter to Toyota in California got me a phone call from a representative who said that the word of the Factory Representative was final and I could go to arbitration if I felt there was a basis for a complaint. They refused to put their response in writing. After the call to Japan (which must be made at night after 9PM EST), the lady I spoke to, who spoke perfect English, expressed the concern that the position being taken by Toyota America was not appropriate and that she would contact them. I received a call from a gentleman in the Executive Offices of Toyota America after about 5 days who advised me that they had heard about problems with the Navigation system. He said that they intend to make changes in future models. I asked what good that would do for me and he asked me what I would thought would be appropriate. I said I either wanted the system fixed or I wanted monetary compensation for the less-than-perfect system.
He asked what I thought would be appropriate. I asked for $500 and he agreed. I got a check with a cover letter that made no mention of the problem, merely that the check was for "goodwill". Anybody with the problem should consider dealing with Toyota regarding this problem in the same way since they are taking the STONEWALL POSITION on the problems with this system. I got the number for Toyota by going on the Toyota website (Japan). Good Luck to All. Write back after you try this! It worked for me! By the way.... I used STARTEC phone service (see GOOGLE) The call to Japan for 20+ minutes cost about $1.00
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Tel: 03 3817 7111
Fax: 03 3817 9026
I also got the part numbers:
86271-GEN23-09 86271-33038 (2003-2006 Avalon)
86271-AVLN3-09 86271-41013 (2007-2009 Avalon)
Does anyone know if Toyota changed the navigation system in the 2010 model?
Thanks.
1. Replaced the microphone - $400, still not working,
2. Replaced the radio-$2,000, still not working,
3. Replaced the "ECU" Electronic Control Unit", the computer if you will-$5,000, finally working, but still stinks.
LOTS of $$$ (labor not included) for a minor convenience item. Thank goodness we are still under warranty!
Regards,
Guy
I never received any response to my message. If I were buying now I would most likely not get the navigation system. Based on the number of complaints you would expect that Toyota would have improved the system; however they did not change anything else on the car for 2010 so they possibly did nothing about the navigation system. I don't know if they use the same navigation system in the Camry, but you don't see complaints about the Camry so I would presume it is different.
I drive a 2002 Avalon which is still a great car. I was considering trading on a 2010 and was disappointed when they came out a few weeks ago and there were no updates to the car. I don't use a navigation system now but since I drive a car for 7 to 8 years I thought I would consider it when I trade. I am now taking a close look at the Venza.
Y'all have a great day.
Guy
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Guy
SUMMARY - TERRIBLE OVERPRICED NAV SYSTEM. The rest of the car is excellent except that it does not have bluetooth or a port for an IPOD.
At least they fixed that with the '08 and up models
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Thanks all
Phil Russell
I put it in myself:
1. Put the key to Acc
2. Take out the trunk floor mat and spare tire cover
3. Lift up the cover over the NAV computer in the left rear corner. You don't have to remove the entire side panel for this.
4. Slide the locking tab to the open position
5. Push a little on the DVD drive door, causing the disk to come out.
6. Remove it and slip the new one in.
7. Slide the locking tab back.
Then go up front and bring up Menu on the screen. Click on DVD. It will show Ver. 9.01 You will most likely have to restablish your geographic region.
I don't know if there is something else the should be done since I'm not privy to the installation service bulletin. Everything seems to work except the secret Override stuff that worked for my original version 5. So, guess I'm back to pulling off the Interstate before my wife can find me a Starbucks. But then, that won't work anyway since Starbucks in no longer among the POIs! Guess Toyota wanted to make this a "profit center" bu charging stores to be listed.
So, it looks like I paid $200 plus tak to have features taken away!
Are there any options other than the$199 price at the dealer? What is the part number?
eBay has the updated DVD for sale. The 2009 is available now (don't know when the "2010" or next version might be available - might want to ask your dealer first.
Item number: 260545921487
I've done it with Gen 5 in the past before abandoning them for a LockPick 2 WF.
Back to square one. I am assuming that the DVD is copyprotected, or that the DVDs are VERY car specific. I did notice that the v7.1 DVD is over 8GB, while the V9.1 is about 7.2GB. You wouldl think that a later version of the maps would have more info, not less.
Does anyone have any thoughts? I have yet to be able to try the DVD on other late model, high-end, Toyotas.
I would like to know if anyone has had any success at this.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Save the uTorrent (uif format) file. Download takes about 2 days!
Load a new Verbatim DVD+R DL DVD 8X into drive E: (lower DVD player)
Execute PowerISO software
Select Mount: Mount the (Open the uif file with PowerISO) the navigation file from hard disk
Select Burn: Burn the file to DL DVD drive with verify option checked. Use 8x speed.
Burn will take 40-60 min. When finished verify that the files show up on the new DVD
At Car:
Put car into accessory switch position; push start button half way down
Open trunk and remove trunk liner from over DVD player
Slide switch to right and press space under switch
Remove old DVD
Insert new DVD into drive.
Close slide switch and replace trunk liner
Turn on Navigation system
Wait 2-3 minutes for new setup to complete.
Go to DVD menu to verify that new version is installed.
If above fails, reinsert last NAV DVD that worked using above procedure.
Thanks for the suggestion. If I get it to work, I will post it here.
Dave
The 2011 models will be coming with new touch screen NAV systems.
That leaves us the last of this past generation of Avalons. With 2011 there is a new body type..stereo as well.
Question......with the additional 3000.00 rebate offered........is it worth getting the 2010 with this seemingly frustrating NAV system? In CA, the only ones left have NAV in them. I had hoped to find one without NAV...but nothing..
I like the car otherwise. Just wondering what those who currently own 2009/2010 models think? The rebate more than compensates the cost of NAV if price negotiation continues as well as it has. Prices are great....but if HAVING the Nav...even if I don't plan on using it much is going to give me constant headaches...maybe not worth it? Spouse says if we buy 2011..doesn't want to pay for NAV anyway...so isn't a question of waiting for new technology with NAV.
So.....buy 2010 for great price...and Nav sort of a free accessory OR eliminate headache (and possible service problems) and buy 2011 with NO NAV
Please be candid with your comments.
Thanks!
The 2011 models will be coming with new touch screen NAV systems.
That leaves us the last of this past generation of Avalons. With 2011 there is a new body type..stereo as well.
Question......with the additional 3000.00 rebate offered........is it worth getting the 2010 with this seemingly frustrating NAV system? In CA, the only ones left have NAV in them. I had hoped to find one without NAV...but nothing..
I like the car otherwise. Just wondering what those who currently own 2009/2010 models think? The rebate more than compensates the cost of NAV if price negotiation continues as well as it has. Prices are great....but if HAVING the Nav...even if I don't plan on using it much is going to give me constant headaches...maybe not worth it? Spouse says if we buy 2011..doesn't want to pay for NAV anyway...so isn't a question of waiting for new technology with NAV.
So.....buy 2010 for great price...and Nav sort of a free accessory OR eliminate headache (and possible service problems) and buy 2011 with NO NAV
Please be candid with your comments.
Thanks!
I had an 06 without Nav that I loved. Only had a two minor issues fixed under warranty and was a great car. I played with the nav before I bought it and would have preferred the touch screen. However, for as often as it gets used it wouldn't have been a deal breaker for me if I wanted it.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
I bought the latest DVD Navigation Map - North America from Toyota (v9.1) for $200. It was discounted from the original price. It is for my 2006 Avalon. While the maps/data have been updated, they still don't have streets and addresses that have been around for years. As are all of you, I am very frustrated. Anyhow, I made a successful copy of the DVD using ImgBurn and 2.4x DVD+R DL Verbatim media. I am selling the old DVD Navigation Map (v5.1) on Craiglist. You may find it in the Los Angeles region under Toyota/Lexus DVD Navigation Map - North America. Please respond to my Craigslist posting if you want further information on the old or new map data.
Drill down into the following area of Craigslist:
1. los angeles craigslist > san fernando valley > for sale / wanted > electronics
2. Search for "DVD Navigation Map"
3. The post is entitled "Toyota/Lexus DVD Navigation Map - North America"
I have not provided the link as the post will expire and the re-post would use a new link. Hope this helps.
The concern that sticks in my mind is that a friend had heart attack at wheel and the passenger could not get over the console to reach the brake.
She was able to steer into a Park with car slamming into huge oak tree. Than God, it was early in morning and Park was children free.
Both were injured, but could have been killed.
It's been over a year and my friend will not ride in a car with bucket seats.
Your reply will be appreciated. Thanks.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Couldn't reach the shifter either? Or the ignition switch? C'mon, get real.
The map update will just update the map database (roads, streets, highways, etc.) and business information called Points of Interest (POI). The map update does not change the user interface.