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Mazda 5 vs Kia Rondo
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Loads of Hondas, Toys, etc.
even though crude drop more than 2 dollars yesterday.
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Mine is the Canadian 2008 EX model 5-seater model.
I was on top of all of the problems as they ocurred in real time, no messing around wondering what to do. Kia Service Advisors kept me informed and the Kia was always fixed right the first time, every time, at no cost to me.
The amount of money I saved by paying less for my Kia compared to other imports and domestics could then be spent by my wife and I on other things. Like fixing up old houses.
But I remain a big fan of Kia. Their Long-Haul Warranty is great, but, one must choose their dealer carefully.
I was recently treated to new driver side and passenger window tinting from our Mitsubishi dealer! We were there for our Lancer's 45,000 mile service. As I started to pull away the Service Advisor comes running up to us yelling "don't roll your window down!". I hit the brakes and opened the door inquiring why.
"I just tinted your windows. Don't use the power windows for a while."
So we saved on the 45,000 mile package over the Mitsu dealer in Tucson's quote(the place we bought from is located in Avondale, a western burb of Phoenix, the same place we went to for our 45,000 mile service here). And we got our windows tinted for free.
Now that is intelligent automotive service for you. I will remember treatment like that when it comes time to buy another Mitsubishi, which, of course, is just where they want me. But if we're treated fairly(and I watch every transaction like a hawk)I will indeed remember with the memory of a desert elephant at deal time. :shades:
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
"I just tinted your windows. Don't use the power windows for a while."
LOL, you're kidding, right? So, you didn't note the new tint when getting into the vehicle and the dealer did it without asking you? I don't like aftermarket window tinting so I would have been extremely upset if somebody does anything like that to my car without asking first... I would not have recommended that dealer AT ALL. Good dealers ask you first, even if it's for free
Sheesh. Some people are beyond hard to please. :sick:
Get it-happy with the tinting. End of story. No hate required, and thankfully no Mazda's any where near.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
When I found Rondo on Kia's website I thought it might meet all these needs, but not being familiar with them I have hesitated to purchase. As I mentioned before, I don't see a lot of them around here nor know anyone who has one, while I know lots of people who have Siennas, CR-Vs, Odysseys etc.
The other thing delaying our purchase is we just hate car dealerships and the entire buying experience. I would rather have root canal--and I have had several of them so I know what I am talking about. At least the endodontist does not try to gyp you blind and lie about everything imaginable.
I had a great and painfree experience in my purchase and couldn't have been any better.
Have you driven one yet?
Ha, this is not a Mazda5 vs Rondo nor a Mazda vs KIA thing, this is just common sense. Your story reads completely made out, the more details you provide the less realistic it sounds, sorry. Why would you tint your windows with the same OEM color it already has?
Anyway, we are way off-topic, this is not the free invisible tint Lancer thread :confuse:
Dealers in NJ, check here, there might be useful rating info:
http://www.edmunds.com/dealerships/Kia/NewJersey/index.html
Some general notes:
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Finding a dealer can be a headache, but try to focus on 2 things: a) who has the best deal on the Rondo you want ($$) and b) who has the best service. While sometimes it helps to buy and service in the same location, it is not necessary. I own 2 of the same vehicles and both are serviced (including warranty work) where I bought the 2nd. The 1st one's service was terrible, yet they had the car I wanted at the right price. If you are lucky the car might not have any issue, but if it does, then post-sales attention matters (and they like your continuing business, guess why I bought my 2nd car from the best service dealer?)
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Test drive and visually inspect the Rondo you'll buy one more time. You may find insignificant things that can become a headache after buying. Yes, the dealer may offer you to "fix any annoyance" if you buy, but once you sign, it can be a different story.
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Don't forget to fill out feedback, reviews (like the one to the right of the screen) and share your experience for the dealer(s) (good or bad). This helps them improving and helps buyers like you in the future
OK, when I got in the car to pull off after paying, the Service Advisor informed me that I shouldn't roll down my window for a while as they had re-tinted the driver and front passenger side windows.
Done. End of story. No cost to my wife and I. Looks great. No scratches anymore. No cost to us. Done deal. Happy about it.
The OEM tinting got scratched because our Lancer GTS must've not gotten some felt on the inner door. Wasn't explained to us. I could call them back to find out why the OEM tinting got scratched but probably won't now that it looks good.
Nothing more to say. Why that comes off as a negative story that you think I made up I don't know. Ever heard of good deeds done at no cost to win over customers to a particular dealership? Yes, these things really happen. Sheesh.
I hope that made sense to most of you out there. I'm on to something else on the net. This person is headaching my head...really bad all of a sudden. :sick:
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Regardless FYI:
OEM tint: how can it be scratched because is inside the glass, there is no "film" in it. In other words, it cannot be redone by ANY dealer after the window is manufactured. If by any means comes scratched (or defective is a better word, as it would be inside the glass) then a new window is needed.
Here is a Lancer GTS, no OEM tint apart from the greenish color the OEM windows come with.
End of a real story, I'm not an expert in cars, but that is not rocket science. Let's just give factual information, thanks.
Let's get back on topic (3rd time request by the way)
Rondo - 814 (1541 for '08); YTD - 12,545 (26,194 for '08)
OEM tint: how can it be scratched because is inside the glass, there is no "film" in it. In other words, it cannot be redone by ANY dealer after the window is manufactured. If by any means comes scratched (or defective is a better word, as it would be inside the glass) then a new window is needed.
OK, so you're saying that my car dealer replaced my driver's side window and my front passenger window? Not the tinting on it? Excuse me, but you're acting like Dennis Rodman and placing tattoos all over the Edmunds website now.
Listen to yourself! Tinting is done outside a window. What I was trying to explain to you earlier is the OEM window was scratched because the tinting was rubbing on something on the inside of the door. Something that needed to be buffered by a substance called felt. No felt=scratched tinting. Not a real mystery and not rocket science.
Is this a mystery to anyone else who happens to peruse this thread?
OK, let me reframe the end result for you, coolmazda5. Whatever they did(my dealer)they did it good, they did it right, and the tinting is not scratched and the job is weathering the test of time. There was no charge, so this is a win-win for us.
Keeping that in mind...and knowing that it looks good and pristine and costed us no money at all, how it this a negative thing?
coolmazda5...are you telling me that you really believe that they replaced two of my Lancer GTS' windows? Are you for real, bud? :confuse:
Can I get a witness? Who knows about automobile window tinting reading this? Please attach reason to this thread and confirm that window tinting is outside a window and sticks on to it. If I'm wrong I'll renounce my belief that the Pittsburgh Stealers really did steal Super Bowl 40 from the Seattle Seahawks and they received abundant help from bought-off referees.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
I don't think it makes any sense to put it on the outside. The weather would have too much effect on it.
By the way, the 2010 Mazda5 for the US has finally been updated. As mentioned before the noteworthy items are DSC and TCS standard. Hope Canada gets it too...
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehi- - cleCode=MZ5
Come on, I'm the boss...need the info.! Someone else supply window tinting information for us, that still maketh no real sense to me. :confuse:
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
I'll just ask him how the tinting process works. In explicit detail. And get to the bottom of this menacing mystery once and for all.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Now if there is another way, its news to me.
I'm guessing that my Lancer's OEM tinting was applied as a film on the inside of the glass, as it showing definite scratching having been done to it. But the re-tint job was film applied I'm thinking, too, because the Service Advisor told me to not roll my windows up or down for several hours after the job was done. It looks great, still, what a nice surprise from them to do this. :shades:
I'll try and limit this discussion from now on in here as it is severely off-topic.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
YTD - Rondo 8,643 (8,941 in '08) vs Mazda 5 at 7,880 (11,162 in '08)
So it dawns to me, that only the EX competes head to head with the Mazda5. The LX is in another class. I think we should compare only EX sales the 5.
I ended up buying a 5 without having the chance to get into a Rondo EX, because there aren’t any around.
however, it is sure nice to have 7 seats when you have to carry 7 poeple once in awhile.
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Mazda 5: 415 (vs. 464 for '08); YTD: 8,295 (vs. 11,626 for '08)
Market share in Canada:
KIA: 3.2% (vs. 2.3% in '08)
Mazda: 5.2% (vs. 5.3% in '08)
YTD vs '08 (Canada):
KIA: +20.6%
Mazda: -14.8%
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703735004574570194202741528.html
There are no hard coded numbers, but the used Mazda5s seem to be well appreciated in Canada (according to the media) regardless of the initial flaws. Some articles I found:
http://www.wheels.ca/newsFeatures/article/783399
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/used-cars/used-cars-archive/an-instan- - t-hit-econo-minivan-still-holds-value/article1359888/
Yeah, for the US, I've seen nothing recently...
The question is if one needs additional vehicle.. Will the current Rondo owner get another rondo? Or will a MAZDA5 owner get another MAZDA5? Do we have
someone with 2 Rondo's in their garage? I know some have 2 MAZDA5s.
your point is?
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Rondo - 1,236 (1,056 for '08) YTD: 14,206 (vs 28,645 for '08)
Mazda 5 - 1,622 (2,884 for '08); YTD: 18,488 (vs 22,021 for '08)
http://www.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1041796_preview-2011-mazda-mazda5
Is there any news on the 2011 Rondo? the Grand C-MAX and the Orlando are coming to NA as well...
Mazda 5: 343 (318); YTD: 8,638 (11,944)
I also wonder what the MPG will be for the 2011 mazda5. Hopefully at least 30HWY.