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Not only no memory function, but a really s l o w motor (at least in my 98).
HiC
Really, it's just a minor inconvenience, but still something that really should be included in this caliber of vehicle.
I did get a great deal on my LC--we paid $1,500 over invoice. I did, however get taken on the $3,000 wheels that I put on it which probably made up for the great deal. Oh well. Looks hot and that's what counts, right??
You guys crack me up :-)
Steve, Host
Are you looking at a dealer or an individual? How many owners? Any maintenance records? I personally think mileage is irrelevant if the vehicle is very well cared for, which many Landcruisers are, due to their high purchase price.
Hank
The advice on this forum has been incredibly helpful in my purchase decision and now my ownership of this great vehicle. Thanks for all the information!
I have heard and I read ( I believe in this forum) that the redesigned LC will be based on the Sequoia. What in the world does that mean?? Is it going to look like a Sequoia? What then will Toyota do with the Sequoia? Maybe even more important to me is when will Toyota release a redesined LC.
I like the current bodystyle of the Land Cruiser and love it's driving characteristics but I would like to see a stronger engine and that more than anything would make waiting a little more feasible. Any help or insights will be greatly appreciated.
MGreene
New design should be in '06, but seems we should have seen or heard some rumors by now? The speculation that LC will go away, or go to Lexus comes up from time to time, but it did when the 100 was introduced to replace the 80.
My only "guage" about a new LC continuing with two versions (Lexus and Toyota) is how many I see on dealer lots, used car ads, etc. My observation is LCs have been and continue to be very desireable. I seldom see them at the dealers in my area for more than a day or two, and very few used ones are in the paper two weeks in a row. And no adverstising at all. This makes me guess we'll see a new one for '06, albeit in the same limited numbers since the introduction of the Sequoia.
A supercharger... TRD has superchargers out for most of all of Toyotas and the LC boast one of the most powerful ones, that will ad about 100 horsies to the total, for a healthy 330hp... just be ready to drop $3,500 or more.
The improvement that I noticed and praise Toyota for is the Drop of the 4 speed and introduction of the 5 speed auto in the LC... I drove both 4 and 5 speed, and I have to say the extra gear in the 03 and up LC´s really makes a noticeable acceleration differance... The old 4 speeds where used on the FJ-80 and FZJ-80 models but with slightly different timings, due to engine change, so that trany was well past an overhaul, again thank you Toyota for removing that 4 speed...
I am not sure about the new engines but I herd that the FJ concept was powered by a 210hp V-6... if this is the case I will break down... I understand that it is smaller but Toyota needs to get back with the compitition... they have a killer platform (UZJ) they just need to do and engine swap...
The one thing that has brought me back to Land Cruisers time and time again is their styling, it never goes out of style, unlike the Ford Explorers, or lincons,that go out of style in a few years, you can see lines on the 04 TLC models that you saw on 94 models, that you could see on 84 models and so on. They have stood the test of time and show what the Toyota Brand is capable of... I can only think of a few cars that have kept timeless styles... BMW which is changing, Jeep (only on the Wrangler platform) and Toyota, porsche, and thats it...
There is no way that the LC will be dropped, Toyota has a love for its beast (as do i) also the Land Cruiser, even with a less hp than that of other domestic SUVs, will leave them in the dust on the trails...
and yes LC´s fly off dealers lots, the one I bought was driven on the lot and within an hour I looked at it gave it a quick spin and bought it, It wasnt even cleaned it was that new on the lot (but of course they did clean it)
The only reason I was so prompt at buying it was that the one that was on the lot for a week that I was looking at buying got purchased... so I didnt want to loose the opertunity...
The drool is handled with a bib and a mop bucket!! Will check into a Gatorade drip to replenish lost electrolytes, thank you for your concern :}
MGreene
Just the thought that ´I own the king of the off road and can get my way through most anything´ feeling, is what you want.... OK the TLC will do that, enjoy!
-mike
I am so ready to put myself out of my misery! I have saved for years for this truck, and have arranged my finances so I can afford the payment, insurance, and maintenance (not as sure about the gas). I just need for Toyota to provide the necessary information so I can make the best decision.
All the best
MGreene
MGreene
p.s. it is almost a tank now!
-mike
Has anyone ever had one of these repaired - as the bumper is metal I would think that it could be beaten back into shape. A new one cost $600 or so so its crazy, any advice for cheaper spares, also a drivers side endcap and whole moulding are needed. [Its a last resort to buy an ARP bumper as suggested above as it IS $650 and changes the refined LC look.]
Also I was quoted $450 for a front flare which is crazy as its only fibreglass. My damaged flare has a slight fracture; surely this could be filled and sanded and sprayed?
Advice is welcome as usual!
The end caps are plastic...The flares seem to be fibre glass so should be patchable I would think.....
I have found a non-Toyota made new bumper quoted at $190 - risk I guess is that it doesnt fit.
The problem is that the front bumper is really an assembly including bumbper, grill, endcaps and a moulding. It is my understanding that the ARB replaces all of the above so thats the answer I guess,,,,,,,,
Couldn't agree more WRT the "ruggedness" of these stock bumpers. At least on the 80 you do have metal in the center section. Someone got me in a parking lot and tore the front plastic cladding off the front bumper of my 100. I nearly soiled my pants when I saw what was under there. I was able to push out the deformation of the plastic and reattach it. I've got a slight bulge in the sheet metal at the crease just above the right front side below the side marker light. I've grown used to it and have decided not to fix it, as I know it will be ridiculou$ly expen$ive. Seems like just about all of the new vehicles with these plastic wrap around front "bumpers" have some sort of scratch or deformation in them
http://www.toyota-automotive-store.com/auto_body_parts/land_cruis- er-1991-bodyparts---3872.html
Thanks for comments.
That being said, as a consumer, I would like to make a $55K decision knowing all the facts. Toyota needs to pony up some info during the January 2005 auto shows to help potential long-term customers in our situation.
And separately, the flare would cost more in labor for filling and sanding than a repacement flare at $450!!!!!!!!
The problem is that all the repair shops feed off of insurance claims where no-one cares about costs at all as the "insurance company pays". If you dont insure for collision (which makes sense for vehicles older than say 6/7 years) the repair shops take you as the owner-payer to the cleaners.
Cheaper.... rock solid, more valuable, profesional instal you looking about 800 range, depending if the frame is bent or not, that could be what he was talking about ´straightening´ if your frame is bent good luck trying to find somthing under 3000...
Surely a 5 mph fender bender aint going to result in the frame being bent out of kilter? Surely the venerable Landcruiser isnt that fragile?
Any help would be appreciated.
HiC
-mike
Are there any particular issues with these models as they get into the 100k range? I have a 91 Corolla with 180k and have had no major problems at all -- thus I am sold on Toyota and not really concerned about either vehicle having over one hundred thousand miles. Any big "events" in the near future that I should look out for?
Thanks to anyone willing / able to help.
But as for you dewright, test drive them again.
full throttle to 60 (should be around 10 seconds)
Full brake from 50-0 should not lock the wheels these cars do have ABS
standard manuvaring.
also crank the wheel all the way left do one complete circle then do the opposite listen for knocking or unusual tire scratch. Look under the hood, the engine should be dusty but not too much with 110,000 ish miles on it.... If it is sparkling clean the owner might be trying to cover up a leak.
Check fluids yada yada yada.. you know the drill... i hope...
Anyway, it is supposed to be an option on the 05 Land Cruiser, but I can't tell if it is a dealer installed option or factory.
I have downloaded an e-brochure from toyota.com and it isn't even mentioned. I asked the salesman, but of course he talked about them putting an aftermarket unit in, which, if you're going to spend that much for a car, you really shouldn't have to go out and buy aftermarket stuff to adorn it.
Well, I know this is minor stuff, but if I'm going to do make the leap, I'd like to have it equipped the way I want it. If it's a dealer accessory I'm guessing I could get an 04 and have the dealer put it in?
Thanks
Will post more info if I get any )
Any thoughts on what my baby might need to get rejuvinated? Would it help if I started to use premium gasoline? Edmunds and Kelley Blue Book say this vehicle is worth about $2,500, but given its great condition (aside from the problems mentioned above) this seems awfully cheap. Is the $2,500 estimate for selling this vehicle reasonable?
Thanks for any thoughts.
I think most people who are familiar with this model of Toyota Landcruiser would say it runs well, although anyone who would like to go the 70 mph on an uphill section of the interstate or who would like to get more than 15 miles per gallon would say it is totally impractical.
If you trade it in, look for a 1993-1996 TLC they have the revised 4.5 ltr DOHC 212hp engine that I enjoy alot! you can get these for around 11-22,000 in good condition, price varys due to options.
hope this helps!
-mike