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thank you...
MDSD
All that I'm saying now is pure speculation on my part, but.....I think we're all pretty sure that there will be a new Landcruiser to replace the 100 series, but what we're really wondering is what the US market will get? If Toy goes the Tundra/Sequoia route how will they make them different? Maybe they could do a Suburban/Tahoe type model--short wheel base/ long wheel base.
One thing that was rumored long ago was no more LC sold by Toy dealers as they had gotten so expensive and that they were going to be sold by Lexus. So, how about this--Lexus sells it as the Landcruiser and they have an "LX" version? Hard to imagine Toy giving up the luxury SUV segment of their lineup to RR.
Since there are so many LCs throughout the world and so many different ones, anticiapating a replacement for the 100 that isn't a Tundra/Seqouia seems reasonable enough--no? Of course the issue here, perhaps is that as the LC has evolved into a luxury SUV, many potential buyers only see the size difference between the Seqouia and the LC and the price difference too and decide they don't need the LC.
My preference would be to see the current set up---LC/LX on its own platform. Now if, they'll just call me and ask me how to handle all of this for them
The intro of an '07 is consistent with what the area tech rep told me. A few months back (thought I had posted this) he said an '06 and an '07 with no changes--he has only recentlcy mentioned seeing the new LC, but he wouldn't tell me any more. This ultra secrecy makes me think that this new one must be a very significant change to warrant all the secrecy and that it's going to be so different that demand will be very high? My hunch is hybrid--maybe standard--with more power and torque and about 20% or more better mileage.
My gut feeling is hold off if you can, as there will no doubt be some nice 100s available even after the new one is announced.
I'll keep trying to dig up whatever I can as I'm in the market for a new one too!
Land Cruiser: The icon of the truck lineup soldiers on. Markets outside the United States and Canada are to receive the re-engineered vehicle in 2007; the vehicle bows in both countries a year later.
Based on this, we should be seeing something in auto pubs soon? And I think we who are waiting are in the same boat as you are. Probably a short run of 07s?
I may be reading a bit much into this sliver of AutoWeek info, but with everyplace but the US and Canada getting something in '07, that leads me to believe that the NA version will be hybrid?
Does anyone think i did something wasteful? should i have just waited for the 2007 ???
mdsd
If it makes you feel any better, I know someone who will be interested in buying your 06 if you plan to upgrade to an 07 or later.
sincerely mdsd
Finally, no matter what year you buy, it will always depreciate some. But what won't change is you've got a LC
Don't see how you offended anyone--you just asked a question. What's wrong with that?
However, I agree with you that I would prefer it without a NAV unit if I was going to keep the truck for a very long time. It's going to be expensive to fix the main screen if it fails as it controlls pretty much all the functions, including the audo, climate control, Nav, etc. I might try to special order one without the nav and the fancy suspension which I guess will be costly to repair down the line.
Just curious what the Generation 5 nav offers that is not on the 06.
thanks everyone !
FF4L- the '06 seems like a good idea, in that they aren't different than the '06s? Do you really think the updated Nav is worth 4K? OTOH, I know you want to make sure you have the latest and or last MY of the 10 series if the new one isn't what you were expecting.
Tough decision I know!
Since I've got two other vehicles, I'm hanging with my low mileage '02 until I see the next gen LC. Like you, if it's a re-badged Seqouia, I'm going to jump on another 100 series
I'm thinking I should just disconnect the battery when we're not in FL.
Thanks for the help and advice,
-JAG
This also happens on my aunts 94 LS400. Its not a daily driver either, so it sits there for weeks at a time. It's battery dies more often and so that car's on a battery tender now too.
I think in both cases, it's caused by vehicle electronics??Alarms/anti-theft/other things that are on when the car's off??
Since I drive my LC often, this is not an issue, but on my Porsche (2006) it is as there are "lots" of electronics that are constantly drawing current. I drive it every other week or so and hook it up to my trickle charger in between.
Don't know what the consequences will be on my '07 Camry hybrid, but it too is driven quite often.
Great advice, thanks,
JAG
Also, if you do get in to some deeper water that covers your differentials and transfer case, it's a good idea to clean out your breather tubes and change the fluids in them.
1. Front - Open
2. Center - Open
3. Rear - Open
Trasfer case - Chain driven or gear driven? Thank you.
I had a link with some good illustrations of TC and diffs explaining the locking functions etc. I'll see if I can hunt it down and post a link for you.
According to my dealer, the dealers went to San Antonio last week for their annual meeting. According to him, both the 2008 Sequoia and 2008 LC were debuted. But they were roped off at least 300 feet back. Guy said the Sequoia looked like a rebadged Surburban (very disappointing in his words) and the new LC looked fairly Range-Roverish according to him. Said it looked pretty classy, but could not tell a whole lot about it size-wise as they were at such a distance. This seems to jive with the spy pic on mud. I would post a link, but I think Edmunds frowns on it.
My thoughts are go with the 2006, let the bugs get worked out on the 2008 and look to trade or keep the 100 for good when the 2009 model comes out.
Though I haven't heard of any "issues" with the 100, I do recall there was some sort of transmission problem with the first year run ('98).
Thanks for the link and info. I'm not surprised that the new LC will be RR ish in nature. I'm sure Toy wants that "top" luxury SUV spot that RR seems to have.
Probably time for me to see if I can get any more info out of my friend at Hqs. Again, I suspect he's got the straight scoop, but he can't leak it, if he values his job!
Supposed to pick up today. I really shouldn't sweat these small items, but it infuriates me to no end that these port installed options are forced down the consumer's throat.
Any quick thoughts would be appreciated.
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/13/spy-shots-toyota-land-cruiser/
tidester, host
Is there a block heater attachment option?
grant--you might want to do a search for "arctic cruisers". This is the group of specially prepared LCs that crossed the arctic a few years back. Or maybe try to link to one of the Aussie LC web sites.
HTH
Thanks!
OK - I'm looking to get my wife and SUV to replace her Civic and my Ford F150. I need something that can tow my utility trailer from time to time - nothing super heavy, just lumber, mulch, tools and the like. I was initially going to buy a new Honda Pilot because of the awesome deals, but I don't want a note at all, plus they tow like crap. So I then decided to buy her a used Sequoia and just pay cash for it, but then looking around (on ebay mainly) I see that I can get a year or two older LC (2000 LC vs. 2002 or 2003 Seq) for the same price. What do you guys think? Does anyone own both? Do you guys hate the Seq. and if so, why? I wont be doing much offroading, just looking for a comfortable family vehicle for my new son and wife (she's not new though - ha) to ride in. The mileage on both sucks, but I think the LC is a few MPG worse. I hear the Seq. actually has more room, but the LC is just solid and purpose built to be what it is, not a reengineered Tundra. Can someone help me with some info and "professional" opinion? I'm looking to make a move very, very, soon - Like yesterday. Also if LC, what year is best features/reliability for the money? Sorry for the extra long post.
FWIW, I think you've pretty much captured the "main" LC pluses in this quote. Also, with the year you're looking at, the bulk of the depreciation has been abosorbed by someone else.
As you note, the Seq is on a Tundra platform and the LC has it's own platform. In short, it just feels "right". OTOH, if it matters, the '03 Seq has more HP, than the '00 LC and a different transmission as well.
Not an easy choice perhaps, but spend a little time with each and that might help you with your ultimate decision.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-05-TOYOTA-LAND-CRUISER-TORNADO-FUEL-SAVER-HP-C- HIP_W0QQitemZ330033501263QQihZ014QQcategoryZ42604QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem