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Your right ..this grill looks a hell of a lot better than the cheapo grill on the Azera.
Thanks for the post!
The other cheap offering on the Canadian zera is the economy instrument cluster..
instead of the electoluminescent cluster on the American Azera. The marketing
fellow in Toronto said the electroluminescent panel would have added $600.00
bucks to the car..in 2006 anyway. Would have been worth it!
Cheers,
alymac
cluster instead of the electoluminescent cluster on the American Azera."
In the first place, this 'cheap offering' as you put it is common only to the
GLS and the SE models here in Estados Unidos.
I think that you will probably find that 'cheap offering' dash in all Canadian
models but the Ultra Limited. Someone please check on this.
I happen to prefer my dash panel to the electroluminescent panel for several reasons:
1.) My dash is always visible. There is no need to turn on the key for the dash to appear.
2.) Sooner or later, being electronic, something can and will probably fail because it is electronic. If you have the 'cheap offering' as I do, consider yourself to be most fortunate.
3.) Is it me, or is the 'cheap offering' easier to read? It is I think. That's only my opinion.
As far as the standard Azera grill is concerned, I happen to prefer it also.
I know one fellow who changed his GLS to an aftermarket grill, and he said it was a big job. When he traded his Azera, he didn't remove the aftermarket grill, saying it was hard to install and he didn't want to go through all of that again to put the stock grill back in.
"The marketing fellow in Toronto said the electroluminescent
panel would have added $600.00 bucks to the car."
Although that electroluminescent panel is most certainly more expensive than
the 'cheap offering' dash panel, I seriously doubt that the electroluminescent
dash would add $600 to the cost of the Azera.
Too bad they didn't apply some of the money they saved into better built shock absorbers!
Have a blessed Thanksgiving.
My understanding from the dealer and from Toronto was that the electoluminescent
dial was not available in any Canadian Azera in 2006........though Im not sure what
was offered in 2007
Anyway the Azera is a great car....my hope is they dont discontinue it with the advent of a suc cess store with the Genesis.
And you too, have a thankful Thanksgiving
Alymac
I have changed the grille on my '06 Azera and did not find it a big job, maybe a couple hours, tops. There are some weird fasteners involved, but if one has a decent selection of tools, its no big deal.
Now, I see that the Genesis grille apparently fit into my Azera from the photos on this site. Hmmmmm.
- I am a medical sales rep & therefore opt'd for the brn vs beige interior (wear & tear)
(will probably not do more than 16k miles a year)
- Live in South FL - what's a fair price?
- Should I indeed stick with the brown interior vs beige, based on reviews..
Thnx - appreciate responses
Some useful info:
Hyundai Develops Own Six-Speed Automatic for Improved Fuel Efficiency
- Hyundai becomes 3rd company in the world to develop own 6-speed automatic transaxle
- New transaxle boosts fuel economy by 12%, is 12kg lighter and has 62 fewer parts than a 5-speed
- First application will be in Grandeur/Azera models beginning in January 2009
More: http://jalopnik.com/5116412/hyundais-new-in+house-six-speed-auto-transmission-hi- ts-azera-first
Do you see an all-new Azera coming in 2010?
I do, actually. The timing sounds about right.
There's a blurb in the article, "According to a leaked document outlining Kia’s future product plans, the new sedan is set to make its world debut in August next year with sales expected in the following month. Around the same time Hyundai will also introduce its new Azera."
Kathy Jackson
Automotive News
January 9, 2009 - 3:59 pm ET
LOS ANGELES -- The Hyundai Azera sedan will be the first U.S. vehicle to get the new six-speed automatic transmission developed by Hyundai Motor Co.
The transmission, the first six-speed developed in-house by Hyundai, will be in Azeras with 3.3-liter V-6 engines. The Azera also is available with a 3.8-liter V-6.
Hyundai says the transmission will enable the Azera to get about 20 mpg city/29 highway, compared with 18/26 on the 2009 Azera with a five-speed automatic. The company also says the six-speed enables the Azera to go from 0-60 in 7.8 seconds, compared with 8.0 seconds with the five-speed.
Hyundai is building the transmission in Korea and will start putting it in the Azera this month. It has not priced the Azera with the six-speed transmission. The 2009 Azera with the five-speed retails for $25,695, including shipping.
The redesigned Santa Fe SUV, scheduled to arrive in late 2009 or early 2010, also will get the new transmission.
Very interesting. Addresses one of the foremost complaints about the Azera.
Next question is, will the Limited still be unavailable with the 3.3? This will mean a lot less if it's only available with the slow-selling stripper model (even though it isn't really very stripped).
We could be seeing the beginning of reducing engine displacements for better fuel economy. With lots of manufacturers going to direct injection, they're able to get comparable HP from smaller engines. Couple that with the limits imposed by torque steer in FWD applications, and we could see displacements dropping.
I just saw the a write up on the new Buick LaCrosse, a car I previously would not have given a second glance at. The car is gorgeous and comes with a direct injection 3.0 ( I would estimate close to 250HP ) as well as the regular 3.6 liter.
So long as diesel fuel is not much more expensive than gas right now ( probably due largely to decreased demand by commercial trucking ) it would still be a viable option. Problem is, when the economy takes off and demand for diesel fuel increases, look for the price to be way more than gas again - like it was last spring and summer.
According to a C&D editorial that I read a while back, our country lacks sufficient refinery capacity for diesel fuel. Over 60% of U.S. refinery output is gasoline, and that ratio can not change in favor of diesel without building new refineries ( BTW, Europe refineries produce over 60% diesel fuel ). Spending billions on new construction is something the major oil companies are reluctant to do - especially considering that overall fuel economy continues to improve and demand will drop. If capacity stays tight, prices stay high, and they make more profit - hence no incentive to invest the money.
As far as fuel economy goes, the new Ford Fusion Hybrid has raised the bar with what gasoline power in a midsize sedan can do.
Even assuming maintenance to be the same ( IMO, the diesel would cost more ), the diesel is still not a moneysaving proposition unless you're getting your fuel at McDonalds and Waffle house.
I rented a diesel Ryder truck to move my mother's household goods from Fla to Michigan a couple years ago and lived with the pluses and minuses of a diesel. It pulled hard up the mountains without a downshift, but refill time was spent with the stinky semis with oily and smelly hands. IMO, hybrid is a better way to go, at least here in the U.S.
Hybrids...really are a joke unless you drive into the city on a daily basis. People kill me when they go out to buy a hybrid only to drive it to the metro station or use for weekend running and it's mostly highwy miles. You do not begin to tap into a hybrid's full capability until you are driving it in stop and go traffic. If you go an compare a non-hybrid model to it's hybrid mate...the highway mileage is pretty much the same, the big difference is the city mileage.
I am new to Hyundai, the Azera, and the forum. After finding your forum, I have a question for you. My 09 Azera has a suspension noise (clunking noise) when going over bumps at city driving speeds. Is this normal noise or am I experiencing the dreaded clink some of the earlier models had?
At highway speeds the car handles well and is sooooooo quiet. That is why we bought it.
Thanks,
Bud
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Opinions on the suspension issue are not unanimous. Here's the best summary I can offer, along with a bit of advice: Don't assume the most vociferous opinions are necessarily the consensus on what's right for your car.
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I don't know how extensive the damage is. But seldom can you fix it by yourself & almost all the time they stand out like a sore thumb. I would seriously urge you to go to a professional body shop & get them to do it.
You don't need to go to a Hyundai dealer to fix it. Look for a reputed body shop. My advice is to find the body shop of your local luxury dealer such as Lexus, BMW, MB, Porsche etc. They usually have the latest & greatest equipment & usually are better trained than your local Hyundai dealer's bodyshop people. Get a quote from multiple good body shops, look at their reviews & then choose a shop.
If the quotes aren't too expensive, you can pay for it yourself. If it turns out to be expensive, you can ask your insurance to cover it.
I would seriously urge you not to try to do it yourself. It never ever turns out well & you might do more damage than good.
Good luck!
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Hyundai , in my opinion, doesnt have a clue of what there doing. Im now living in the
interior of Canada...the salesman at the Hyundai dealership said that the Sonata 4 cyclinder will not sell in this area due to the small motor. The Azera ,which I own, is
being discontinued in Canada as of 2009 .Now the Equus in the States to sell for
$75000.00..again nuts! Who would buy aHyundai for that price. Not I. Also being said that a smaller Genesis might be in the offering????????????
This company is becoming another GM...throw as many cars out there an hope someone buys one.....................et at Detroit a 2012 Azera...go fiqure!
Alymac
I suggest going to a dealer where the sales staff have a clue or don't have an agenda.
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Now...the initial Equus is going to have a tweaked version of the 4.6 V-8 that's in the Genesis. Word has it that Hyundai is cooking up a 5.0 V-8 (pushing over 400 hp) to go in in a high-line version (long wheel base) of the Equus at a later date:
Equus LWB with 5.0 V-8
Even if Hyundai's taking the GM approach, at least they are producing cars the folks WANT to own because of the value and now...they are looking really, really nice!!! :shades:
Hyundai definitely has a huge opportunity with Toyota in the hot seat; don't think they won't take advantage of it. Hyundai is doing something right considering they are the only car maker that didn't take an actual decline in sales here in the US in the worst of the recession. Plus, as an owner of 3 Hyundais so far, my 2008 Azera is the best thing I've ever driven. My senior dad (though still working as a CFO in retirement from Gov't) is going to get a Genesis in November after his 3rd in last 10 years Cadillac lease expires because he loves my Azera so much and was gaga over the Genesis when we test drove one while waiting for routine oil change and tire rotation on my Azera a few months ago. Mom is on board also.
If my Dad is ready to throw Cadillac under the bus, even with the sweet deals they are already offering him to get another one, what does this say about their image nowadays? WOW!