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MSRP(inc. destination)- 40,750
Inv amt - 35,568
GMS - 34,369
Supplr - 35,744
Supplier price = GMS + 4%
Supplier price $176 over invoice.
Main question: Any advice on the best deals in Southern California for Yukon XL or Suburban? I live on the border of Orange County and L.A. County and don't mind travelling for a deal. I had intended to order a new Yukon XL or Sub to have it in time for this summer. However, with $1,000 Customer Loyalty and a local $1,000 auto show discount expiring 4/2/01, I'm inclined to find a deal now and save the $2,000. I figure it would make up for any extras or subtractions found on a vehicle currently in stock....As long as I can start at/close to Invoice Price. Any Dealer names, Phone numbers or email addresses would be greatly appreciated.
I've looked around a bit and we've both admired the Yukon XL a bit more than the Sub, but either would suit us fine. My wife and I looked at both the Yukon XL and Sub on Sunday to help answer some questions and finalize what we want, color, int color, sunroof, barn doors or hatch etc. I told both dealers we were comparing the two and who had what to offer.
The GMC Dealer was aghast that I would even consider a Sub and stated there were over 60 points of differences between the Yukon XL and Sub. Things like GMC has: dent resist metal panels, extra air flow over engine, 16% more lighting, better leather, better trade-in value etc.
The Chevy dealers answer: "Basically the front grill and some body moldings. Chevy is better priced, more variety on options, same trade-in value..."
Basically what we saw is: Chevy has optional Fender Flares, diff body moldings, extra color opion in leather(med gray seats w/ dark gray carpet & accents.
What is the real story? Either Chevy or GMC dealing better in SoCal?
Thanks for any input.
I have a 2500 4WD Yukon XL w/ 6.0L and get roughly 13 MPG city, 15-16 MPG hwy, with nothing in tow. I also have autoride, but on the 2500 it is a different system, no load leveling, but still a world of difference over the standard 3/4 ton. Try calling around to see if anyone has any with and w/o the autoride, you will see and understand better when you feel the difference during a test drive. If nobody has one with autoride, try a Denali or Denali XL.
Heatwave3- What is the posted mileage on your window sticker? Mine said "not available", more than likely due to the weight rating/engine combo. Am just curious.
jgmilberg: none of the manufacturers post mpg for 3/4 ton and larger vehicles as there is no government requirement. These vehicles are considered "commercial" and no gas mileage needs to be posted.
They are required to post the mileage on the DXL since it is a 1500. Both the D and DXL (6.0L) are rated at 12 city and 16 highway. My trip computer has me at 12.8 mpg with 1500 miles. Mostly local commuting with no towing and the occasional heavy foot. (quite a thrill to "jump" on it compared to my 7.4L big block in the 3/4 ton Sub....instant response and great acceleration with the awd.)
I expect to get better mileage as the engine is broken in however by summer, expect to be back towing regularly with the expected drop in mpgs.
Thanks for the info.
I have a YXL and installed a BugFlector II. I have had it installed for over a month and have not seen anything shake, the Bugflector, the mirrors.......I don't have a rear wind deflector installed.
Balser -- the vibration/resonance problem occurred at low speeds (15-40 mph) and was very annoying. It only affects 2000's built before a certain date. My service dept. invoice reads:
"FOUND HAD UPDATED BODY MOUNTS PER TECH ASSIST CASE #4599072.. UPDATED MOUNTS WAS TO CORRECT RESONANCE TYPE NOISE HEARD... REPLACED ALL 10 BODY MOUNTS AND SHIMS WITH UPDATED MOUNTS AND SHIMS PER TECH ASSIST.. CASE #4599072... P.I. BULLETIN I000187 FAILURE CODE98"
The part #'s listed are 15049547 CUSHION (10 each), 15018264 SHIM (10 each), and 15018263 SHIM (10 each). It fixed the problem for me. This is also listed on Cliff's web page in the "Known Problems" section. Hope this helps. All work was covered by warranty.
I've have not been able to find the "Interceptor" style for my 2001 YXL. The GMC YXL hood line is different than a Chevy Sub, & the aftermarket web-sites, & parts dealers I've checked do not list an "Interceptor" for the GMC YXL. They do list other Lund deflector models, but not the "Interceptor". I want it in clear, so that it can be back painted. I know that the "Interceptor" is strong & quite rigid, as I had one on my 93 GMC.
I have seen listings for the Bugflector 11 that are color keyed to the YXL. My only concerns on the Bugflector 11 are: Does it allow enough room between it & hood for cleaning? Does it bend back & touch the hood, or does it require bumpers on the hood or back of deflector to prevent contact? Grogman1, is yours color keyed, clear, or smoke? Does it seem rigid?
Any part #'s, web sites, places of purchace, & answers to these concerns would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave.
Sure don't want my wife thinking she's in D when she's really in R (could tell an unbelievably funny and expensive experience here but will refrain for her sake!)
Any comments welcome
Ken
Will the standard weight distributing hitch handle 10,000 lbs, or should I install an aftermarket hitch?
Would you recommend the locking differential?
Thanks.
I would recommend the locking differential, particularly on wet boat ramps where you might not have engaged 4wd. Based on your tow weight your choices are all 3/4 ton Subs or Yukons with one of the following three combinations 6.0L engine with 4.10 rear, 8.1L engine with either the 3.73 or 4.10 rear (either 2wd or 4wd).
Sorry in advance for the long post. All of the figures below are for the 2001 model year.
The highest 2wd Yukon tow rating is 7,900lbs with a 5.3L and 3.73 rear. The other 3 configurations for a 2wd Yukon provide the following tow ratings: 6900lbs with 5.3L & 3.42 rear, 6900lbs with 4.8L & 3.73 rear, 5,900lbs with 4.8L & 3.42 rear.
The highest 4wd Yukon tow rating is 8,700 lbs with a 5.3L & 4.10 rear (4.10 rear not available in 2wd Yukon). The other 3 configurations for a 4wd Yukon provide the following ratings: 7,700lbs with 5.3L & 3.73 rear, 7,700 lbs with 4.8L & 4.10 rear, 6,700 lbs with 4.8L & 3.73 rear.
The Denali has a tow rating of 8,500lbs with a 6.0L, 3.73 rear and AWD. (This is the only configuration.)
The highest 2wd 1/2 ton Yukon XL tow rating is 8,800 lbs with a 5.3L & 4.10 rear. The other configuration for a 2wd 1/2 ton Yukon XL is 7,800lbs with 5.3L & 3.73 rear.
The Denali XL has a tow rating of 8,400lbs with a 6.0L, 3.73 rear and AWD. (This is the only configuration.)
The highest 4wd 1/2 ton Yukon XL tow rating is 8,600 lbs with a 5.3L & a 4.10 rear. The other configuration for a 4wd 1/2 ton Yukon XL is 7,600lbs with 5.3L & 3.73 rear.
The highest 2wd 3/4 ton Yukon XL tow rating is 12,000lbs with the 8.1L & 4.10 rear. The other 3 configurations for a 2wd 3/4 ton Yukon XL are 10,900lbs with 8.1L & 3.73 rear, 10,300lbs with the 6.0L & 4.10 rear, 8,300lbs with the 6.0L & 3.73 rear.
The highest 4wd 3/4 ton Yukon XL tow rating is 12,000lbs with the 8.1L & 4.10. The other 3 configurations for a 4wd 3/4 ton Yukon XL are 10,500lbs with 8.1L & 3.73 rear, 10,000lbs with the 6.0L & 4.10 rear, 8,000lbs with the 6.0L & 3.73 rear.
Thanks for the suggestion
Ken
Unless you have kept up with previous posts, this last sentence will not make any sense to you.....
Highly recommend this bug sheild. This is one of my top sellers. Painted to match & Lifetime Warranty. Best on the Market. Now NO DRILL. Insert a plastic plug in GM holes & screw it to it.
Checked with Bushwacker today - No flares available for the Denali XL.
Checked with Nifty also - No floor mats available yet.
According to early spy reports, GM did initially have cooling problems on the 8.1L motor that reportedly delayed the introduction. However, I believe that the design is solid now.
My YukonXL 8.1L has the front bumper cutouts for extra cooling - I understand that some of the 8.1L Subs/YukXLs were produced WITHOUT the extra cooling cutouts (like the 5.3L/6.0L bumper) - I don't know why.
In any case, it sounds like you probably have a simple stuck thermostat problem or such, especially if this happens in normal driving or idling.
I really like the 8.1L, except for the annoying torque management which abruptly drops the torque in some full throttle situations. I also wish it came with a larger gas tank.
For the 6.0 vs. 8.1L decision, if you were pulling 9500lbs in mountains I would say definitely 8.1L. However, since you are in flatlands, you will need to consider "how" you tow. Are you happy to tow at 60mph, or do you want to go 80mph? Will you tow with a headwind - or do you mind if you can only make 50-60mph with a headwind? Do you tow a long distance or just a short distance (if long, the extra durability of the 8.1L and its stronger rear axle may be critical). The 8.1L's axle should also have a higher dead weight capacity that would be helpful for a heavy boat trailer. In any case, 9500lbs is certainly at the outer limits of the 6.0L's practical ability for short trips.
For daily driving, the 8.1L eats more fuel and is noisier.
I suggest checking one out at a local car parts place, to see it firsthand. I don't have the part number - I pitched the box. I just went to the local Pep Boy's and asked the kid with the ring in his nose to get me the correct model for an 01 YXL. I think I paid $39.00.
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Having said all of this, I would still buy another Yukon XL, as it has no peers - the autoride, automatic climate controls (front and back), and other amenities can't be found on any other vehicle in its class - I just wish I didn't have to deal with the GM dealer organization to address my warranty problems
For a Black shield I recommend smoke & spay the back side with some from aerosol. Other color we mix Dupont Chroma-base to factory specs. Web site is under construction & hope to be up by the end of week. I prefer Lund Interceptors over any other hood protector out there myself... No drilling required on the new GM SUVs/Trucks. I will be painting one tomorrow for my Denali XL (white). I painted two Indigo Blues last week. I checked on fender flares - N/A yet through Bushwacker. Will Check further on other items this week since mine has finally arrived. Will have a pics posted asap www.1stopautoshop.net
Just a thought.
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