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  • kingsalukingsalu Member Posts: 20

    Lease term is 27 Months...MSRP was $48210

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063

    @kingsalu said:
    Lease term is 27 Months...MSRP was $48210

    Using the MSRP of $48,210 and the net cap of $40,805, along with the base MF for the C300 of .00089 and the 27/12 residual of 68%, I calculate a pre-tax payment of $362.61.

    The dealer's offer of $340/mo seems quite good by comparison.

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  • blmossblmoss Member Posts: 6
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    Thanks Michaell!

    The dealer is insisting their MF is .00185 as opposed to .00145 which is basically a 1% diff in rate. "We don't have any control over it...blah blah". Think I'm going to take your suggestion and look elsewhere. If I have to build it, I can build it anywhere, right!?! Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063

    @blmoss said:
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    Thanks Michaell!

    The dealer is insisting their MF is .00185 as opposed to .00145 which is basically a 1% diff in rate. "We don't have any control over it...blah blah". Think I'm going to take your suggestion and look elsewhere. If I have to build it, I can build it anywhere, right!?! Thanks

    Keep us posted.

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  • kingsalukingsalu Member Posts: 20

    Thanks Michaell. Going to close the deal tomorrow.

  • mac_attackmac_attack Member Posts: 87

    North Carolina

    MB C250 Sport
    44,400 vehicle
    -marked down to 41,123
    1K down pymt
    10K miles
    $560/mo

    68% residual
    .000131 MF (which seems wrong)??

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063

    @mac_attack said:
    North Carolina

    MB C250 Sport
    44,400 vehicle
    -marked down to 41,123
    1K down pymt
    10K miles
    $560/mo

    68% residual
    .000131 MF (which seems wrong)??

    Base MF on the C250 is .00101, so your dealer is marking that up on you. Politely but firmly explain to them that you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF.

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  • kacper244kacper244 Member Posts: 11
    I'm new to the leasing process. What's the MF and residual? What would be a good deal on the 2014 MB C300 4Matic Sport? If I lease a vehicle from a MB dealer, do I pay my bills directly to MB Financial Services or to a different bank?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063

    @kacper244 said:
    I'm new to the leasing process. What's the MF and residual? What would be a good deal on the 2014 MB C300 4Matic Sport? If I lease a vehicle from a MB dealer, do I pay my bills directly to MB Financial Services or to a different bank?

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

    MF is .00089.

    Your monthly statements will come from MBFS.

    Use the shopping tools at the top of the page to determine the target sales price.

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  • kacper244kacper244 Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2014

    @Michaell said:
    Use the shopping tools at the top of the page to determine the target sales price.

    36 months and 10,000 miles per year.
    By "What's the MF and residual?" I meant what do they mean? What is MF and residual, what do they mean? Is MF .00089 good? The lower number the better or worse? Sorry for all the questions.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063

    @kacper244 said:
    By "What's the MF and residual?" I meant what do they mean? What is MF and residual, what do they mean? Is MF .00089 good? The lower number the better or worse? Sorry for all the questions.

    Residual is 56% for 36/10.

    Residual is the expected value of the car (expressed as a percentage of MSRP) that the finance company assigns. Higher is better.

    MF is money factor, or the 'rent charge' for the lease. Lower is better.

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  • johntercemanjohnterceman Member Posts: 1
    Just leased a 2014 c250 sport blk/blk. Msrp was 37,500, sale price was $30,xxx. 0 out of pocket, 27 mo, 12k for $340/mo. Southbay mercedes (SO-CAL). I love my new benz!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188

    @johnterceman said:
    Just leased a 2014 c250 sport blk/blk. Msrp was 37,500, sale price was $30,xxx. 0 out of pocket, 27 mo, 12k for $340/mo. Southbay mercedes (SO-CAL). I love my new benz!

    Great deal! Congrats!

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  • riley76riley76 Member Posts: 9

    The deal johnterceman got is pretty much what I'm looking for. Is 27 mo the sweet spot? For the 2014 C250 Sport in CA, could I please get the MF and residual for 24/27/36/39 and 7500/10k miles? Thanks!

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188

    @riley76 said:
    The deal johnterceman got is pretty much what I'm looking for. Is 27 mo the sweet spot? For the 2014 C250 Sport in CA, could I please get the MF and residual for 24/27/36/39 and 7500/10k miles? Thanks!

    27 month is really the only good term for this model.

    .00101 MF and 68% residual for 27mo, 10K/yr. Add 1% for 7.5K/yr.

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  • riley76riley76 Member Posts: 9

    Thanks kydfx!

    Back to the deal johnterceman got - around $7k off a $37k car is pretty awesome! Hopefully he responds to this - was this a demo or loaner or anything that might make it a car the dealer would go so low on?

    Is anyone else seeing discounts of almost 20% on the 2014 C250's?

  • tnrgrl13tnrgrl13 Member Posts: 4

    Hello,

    Can you please provide the MF anf RV for a 2014 and/or 2015 mb c250 - coupe 250.?

    Thanks.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063

    @tnrgrl13 said:
    Hello,

    Can you please provide the MF anf RV for a 2014 and/or 2015 mb c250 - coupe 250.?

    Thanks.

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • tnrgrl13tnrgrl13 Member Posts: 4
    @Michaell.

    oh sorry, 24/12k or 36/12k.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188

    @tnrgrl13 said:
    Hello,

    Can you please provide the MF anf RV for a 2014 and/or 2015 mb c250 - coupe 250.?

    Thanks.
    @tnrgrl13 said:

    oh sorry, 24/12k or 36/12k.

    2014: .00112 MF and 69% residual for 27mo, 12K/yr (best term)

    2015: .00124 MF and 65% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr (best term)

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  • nickbennickben Member Posts: 43

    Hi, can you please provide the Money Factor and residual on a 2014 MB C250 for a 27 month, 7.5K/10K lease? Thank you!

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    edited August 2014

    @nickben said:
    Hi, can you please provide the Money Factor and residual on a 2014 MB C250 for a 27 month, 7.5K/10K lease? Thank you!

    Coupe?

    .00112 MF and 71%/70% residual.

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  • kzevokzevo Member Posts: 53

    Hi, can you please provide the residual and MF for a 2014 C63 sedan for 10K/yr, for 24, 30 and 36 months. thank you. Also any incentives given the 2015 will be introduced later in September with early 2015 availability?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188

    @kzevo said:
    Hi, can you please provide the residual and MF for a 2014 C63 sedan for 10K/yr, for 24, 30 and 36 months. thank you. Also any incentives given the 2015 will be introduced later in September with early 2015 availability?

    Standard money factor and 62%, 58%, 56% residual, respectively.

    I don't have any incentive information. You can use the Car Research tab at the top of the page to search Edmunds for that information.

    The lease program for the 2015 model is identical. Any incentives would probably come on the purchase side, if available. Low volume specialty models like this one rarely get lease incentives.

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  • SarahLaMantiaSarahLaMantia Member Posts: 82

    Have new #'s for the CLA 250 AWD come out for Sept?
    Looking for 24,36 or 39 mo @ 7500 miles please.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188

    @SarahLaMantia said:
    Have new #'s for the CLA 250 AWD come out for Sept?
    Looking for 24,36 or 39 mo @ 7500 miles please.

    .00144 MF

    70% and 66% residual for 24 and 36 months, respectively

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  • zaffyzaffy Member Posts: 9

    @kyfdx said:
    70% and 66% residual for 24 and 36 months, respectively

    Hey Kydfx, any changes from August for 12k miles @ 24mo and 36mo?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188

    @zaffy said:
    Hey Kydfx, any changes from August for 12k miles @ 24mo and 36mo?

    Those are the September numbers

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  • ariazariaz Member Posts: 77

    Hi, can you please provide the Money Factor and residual on a 2014 MB C250 sports sedan for a 27 month, 10K/ 12K lease? Thank you!
    Also what kind of discount off MSRP should I be looking for?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188

    @ariaz said:
    Hi, can you please provide the Money Factor and residual on a 2014 MB C250 sports sedan for a 27 month, 10K/ 12K lease? Thank you!
    Also what kind of discount off MSRP should I be looking for?

    .00101 MF and 68%/67% residual.

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  • mafitchmafitch Member Posts: 15

    Hello, I'm interested in the September MF and residuals for a 2014 C300 4Matic for 27 or 36 month lease with 10 or 12K miles a year. Figure the car has Premium 1 and Multimedia. This is for NY state if that matters.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063

    @mafitch said:
    Hello, I'm interested in the September MF and residuals for a 2014 C300 4Matic for 27 or 36 month lease with 10 or 12K miles a year. Figure the car has Premium 1 and Multimedia. This is for NY state if that matters.

    .00087 MF.

    27/12 - 68%

    36/12 - 52%

    Add 1% for 10k

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  • idalisidalis Member Posts: 2
    Hi I'm looking to lease a 2014 cla 250. Looking for 36months 12k miles and 15k miles

    My build my own car Msrp came out to $33,410. How much is added to that for tag transfer, taxes, fees etc...??? I live in Miami Florida.

    Also being that the 2015 models will be released in 3 weeks or so from what I was told do you think I should wait to order my car till then to get a better deal?
    I am trading in my car which I was told I could get like 5k for it. How should I have them apply the trade in value to the lease?

    My final question I guess would basically be what would the residual value, money factor, cap costs, etc be for September for 36month lease and 12k miles and 15k miles.

    Please advise me on how I can get the best possible deal. And any tips to help me negotiate. Like what should I tell the sales person I want exactly so that he can make the deal happen for me. I'm so new to this and I don't want to be taken advantage of. I honestly didn't want to pay more than $350 per month including all taxes and fees but I'm not sure if that is possible. I also wanted to get the maintenance included which I was told it is like $12 per month. Is it worth it?

    Please help!!!!
  • torquertorquer Member Posts: 17

    Hi -
    Looking for residual and MF for a C350 sedan. Thanks.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063

    @torquer said:
    Hi -
    Looking for residual and MF for a C350 sedan. Thanks.

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063

    @idalis said:
    Hi I'm looking to lease a 2014 cla 250. Looking for 36months 12k miles and 15k miles

    My build my own car Msrp came out to $33,410. How much is added to that for tag transfer, taxes, fees etc...??? I live in Miami Florida.

    Taxes are calculated against the monthly payment. Fees, tag transfer, etc. vary from state to state and from dealer to dealer (dealer fees in Florida are as much as $699).


    Also being that the 2015 models will be released in 3 weeks or so from what I was told do you think I should wait to order my car till then to get a better deal?

    You will probably be able to negotiate a better selling price on a 2014. But, the residual and MF may not be as good for a 2014 versus a 2015.

    I am trading in my car which I was told I could get like 5k for it. How should I have them apply the trade in value to the lease?

    We do not recommend that you use trade equity as a down payment - if the car is stolen or totaled, you would lose that money. Instead, look into making multiple security deposits (MSD) which will lower the money factor used in the lease. The advantage is that you will get that money back at the end of the lease.


    My final question I guess would basically be what would the residual value, money factor, cap costs, etc be for September for 36month lease and 12k miles and 15k miles.

    2014 - .00145 MF and 63% for 36/15. Add 2% to residual for 12K.

    No 2015 information is available yet for the CLA.


    Please advise me on how I can get the best possible deal. And any tips to help me negotiate. Like what should I tell the sales person I want exactly so that he can make the deal happen for me. I'm so new to this and I don't want to be taken advantage of. I honestly didn't want to pay more than $350 per month including all taxes and fees but I'm not sure if that is possible. I also wanted to get the maintenance included which I was told it is like $12 per month. Is it worth it?

    Use the shopping tools at the top of the page to help you determine your target price - you should subtract the amount of the dealer fee from this number to get your best deal.

    In order to model a payment we will need both the MSRP and the negotiated selling price.

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  • torquertorquer Member Posts: 17

    Sorry, 27 mos (I think that is the optimal incentivized deal now), and 12K/yr. Thx!

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063

    @torquer said:
    Hi -
    Looking for residual and MF for a C350 sedan. Thanks.

    >

    27 mos (I think that is the optimal incentivized deal now), and 12K/yr. Thx!

    Standard MF (.00195 - .00225) and 65% for 27/12

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  • heystevehheysteveh Member Posts: 1
    I have never leased a Mercedes before, but felt the deal was so strong I couldn't pass it up. And now I am curious as to how I did on the lease deal comparatively speaking since I had no prior knowledge of the money factors, etc when I went in to the dealership. I leased a 2014 C250 Coupe in Arizona w/sticker price of $40,645 for 322 a month (including tax) with $1,000 total out of pocket (1st month, title, plate, etc). This was for a 7,500 mile a year 27 month term. The deal also included oil changes (2) at the dealership. The only thing left to pay is the lease termination fee at the end of the lease. The Adjusted Capitalized Cost was $35,457.69 (I think that included the residualized oil change package) and the residual value was $29,375.54. Soooo how did I do?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063
    heysteveh said:

    I have never leased a Mercedes before, but felt the deal was so strong I couldn't pass it up. And now I am curious as to how I did on the lease deal comparatively speaking since I had no prior knowledge of the money factors, etc when I went in to the dealership. I leased a 2014 C250 Coupe in Arizona w/sticker price of $40,645 for 322 a month (including tax) with $1,000 total out of pocket (1st month, title, plate, etc). This was for a 7,500 mile a year 27 month term. The deal also included oil changes (2) at the dealership. The only thing left to pay is the lease termination fee at the end of the lease. The Adjusted Capitalized Cost was $35,457.69 (I think that included the residualized oil change package) and the residual value was $29,375.54. Soooo how did I do?

    $322/mo for a car that stickers north of $40K is a pretty good deal, especially with only $1,000 out of pocket at signing.

    Enjoy!

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  • SarahLaMantiaSarahLaMantia Member Posts: 82
    Hi @Michaell‌


    I'm back with some add'l questions

    So far I've negotiated the CLA250 4Matic selling from $36,605 to $35,400. The dealer is telling me that can't meet the TMV of $35,200 b/c it doesn't take into account advertising fees. True?

    The out the door costs are troubling me. In addition to the 1st mo payment, I am being told there is:

    Acq. fee (tried to tell me it was 895, I know std is 795). Can they waive this or is it a non-neg?
    Tax on the acq fee (10% for a lease in the city of Pittsburgh in PA)
    Doc fees - $133 I'm being told these are required by the state of PA, but I thought I read elsewhere it is NOT a legal requirement.
    Plates, Title, etc. I am TRANSFERRING my plates; I know that makes a difference.
    $50 Title
    $36 Registration
    $9 Transfer
    $23 Encumbrance --???
    $14.55 PA electronic license
    $5 PA DLR Tire Tax -- ???
    This SEEMS high to me but I don't have anything to base it off of. Researching on the PA DMV website has been no help.

    Lastly, I told the dealer that compared to other similar brands/models, their .00144 MF was quite high. They came down to .00134. Do you think there is any chance of more flexibility here?

    I want to get the best deal I can, but also don't want to be unrealistic.

    Appreciate your help!
    Sarah
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063

    Hi @Michaell‌

    I'm back with some add'l questions

    So far I've negotiated the CLA250 4Matic selling from $36,605 to $35,400. The dealer is telling me that can't meet the TMV of $35,200 b/c it doesn't take into account advertising fees. True?

    The out the door costs are troubling me. In addition to the 1st mo payment, I am being told there is:

    Acq. fee (tried to tell me it was 895, I know std is 795). Can they waive this or is it a non-neg?
    Tax on the acq fee (10% for a lease in the city of Pittsburgh in PA)
    Doc fees - $133 I'm being told these are required by the state of PA, but I thought I read elsewhere it is NOT a legal requirement.
    Plates, Title, etc. I am TRANSFERRING my plates; I know that makes a difference.
    $50 Title
    $36 Registration
    $9 Transfer
    $23 Encumbrance --???
    $14.55 PA electronic license
    $5 PA DLR Tire Tax -- ???
    This SEEMS high to me but I don't have anything to base it off of. Researching on the PA DMV website has been no help.

    Lastly, I told the dealer that compared to other similar brands/models, their .00144 MF was quite high. They came down to .00134. Do you think there is any chance of more flexibility here?

    I want to get the best deal I can, but also don't want to be unrealistic.

    Appreciate your help!
    Sarah

    Acquisition fee cannot be waived, but you are right to note that it has been inflated (which the dealer is allowed to do). Plates, title, etc. are also mandatory.

    Doc fee of $133 is reasonable, but you can negotiate it out of the deal by asking for a lower sale price. I think that number is capped in PA - here in Colorado, some dealers have doc fees as high st $599!

    You can look into using MSDs to lower your MF. Don't compare the MF from one manufacturer to another - the numbers will always be different. Infiniti almost always has a lower MF than Lexus, for example.

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  • hariharanhariharan Member Posts: 6
    Michaell, Appreciate your feed back on this deal.
    Can you pl tell me, if this is a good deal? - CLA 250 AWD( all options loaded except sun roof and driver assistance pkg) - MSRP - 42K, sale price - 37K, residual - 0.66 , mf 0.00139. Monthly payment - 380 ( includes tax) and 1300 down.
    -
    CLA 250 AWD ( all except sun roof, driver assistance, sports pkg) - MSRP 39K. sale price 35K. Residual 0.66, MF - 0.00144. Monthly payment 340 with 2.5 K down.

    2014 C300W4 - can you please let me know the residual and MF for sep (36 months).
  • standready11standready11 Member Posts: 14

    I have been looking at a 2015 C class. Msrp is 51k. They are giving me around 1k off. 

    Nothing out of pocket but $710 a month! Seems crazy. With 3500 down it wil be high 500s. Still crazy I think. 

    On a cla msrp around 42k. Nothin g out of pocket 574/month. Again another crazy number I believe for these cars. With around 2300 down payment around 450.

    10k/year leases. 

    These are actually better prices than another dealer. Is this decent or a rip off it just how a mercedes is?

    The infiniti I'm looking at comes standard with so many items it seems like a good deal. Thank you all. 

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,063
    hariharan said:

    Michaell, Appreciate your feed back on this deal.
    Can you pl tell me, if this is a good deal? - CLA 250 AWD( all options loaded except sun roof and driver assistance pkg) - MSRP - 42K, sale price - 37K, residual - 0.66 , mf 0.00139. Monthly payment - 380 ( includes tax) and 1300 down.
    -
    CLA 250 AWD ( all except sun roof, driver assistance, sports pkg) - MSRP 39K. sale price 35K. Residual 0.66, MF - 0.00144. Monthly payment 340 with 2.5 K down.

    2014 C300W4 - can you please let me know the residual and MF for sep (36 months).

    MF for the CLA250 4Matic is .00144 with a 66% residual for either 24/15 or 36/10.

    When you say 'down' do you mean cap cost reduction or up front costs (taxes, fees, etc.)?

    For the first deal (using the .00144 MF and 36 months), I get a pre-tax payment of $350.97. For the second deal, I get $344.69/mo pre-tax for 36 months.

    For 2014 C300W4, the 36/15 residual is 50% and the MF this month is .00089.

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  • idalisidalis Member Posts: 2

     When I run the numbers off of edmunds lease calculator my payment is so much lower than what they are offering me.  So I'm so confused.  Are they now adding new fees that I wasn't informed of?  


    Sales price $35,000

    Residual value 65% of msrp of $36,280 = $23,582


    Money factor .00145


    Title $839

    Acquisition fee $595


    Total out of pocket $4,000


    The payment comes out at $349 including taxes no maintenance 


    Here is a print out of what they are now offering me.  Can you please tell me why is there payment higher.  Is there anything that can be done to get the payment to what your calculator gave me? 




  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    idalis said:

     When I run the numbers off of edmunds lease calculator my payment is so much lower than what they are offering me.  So I'm so confused.  Are they now adding new fees that I wasn't informed of?  


    Sales price $35,000

    Residual value 65% of msrp of $36,280 = $23,582


    Money factor .00145


    Title $839

    Acquisition fee $595


    Total out of pocket $4,000


    The payment comes out at $349 including taxes no maintenance 


    Here is a print out of what they are now offering me.  Can you please tell me why is there payment higher.  Is there anything that can be done to get the payment to what your calculator gave me? 




    $1750 in initial fees? $839 title fee? They are hiding some extra numbers in there... Also, the base acquisition fee on a MBCC lease is $795, not $595. I see you are in Florida, so I'm not surprised.. They are hiding a big dealer/doc fee in there, it looks like.

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  • ayotiayoti Member Posts: 3
    Hi, Can I please get the MF and residual for a 2014 C350 coupe with 10k miles for both 27 and 36 months?
    Thank you
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    ayoti said:

    Hi, Can I please get the MF and residual for a 2014 C350 coupe with 10k miles for both 27 and 36 months?
    Thank you

    Standard money factor and 62% residual for 36 months. No 27 month specials on this model.

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  • ariazariaz Member Posts: 77
    2014 C250, with Premium 1, Multimedia, keyless go, 18" wheels, rear deck spoiler, Burl Walnut wood trim.
    MSRP $43660
    leased $371.00/ month, Tax, Title upfront
    27 months, 10k miles / year.
    Payment includes prepay maintenance.
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