Isuzu Trooper

cobbo · July 2001

Just thought I'd update ya'll on my service concerns from above....dropped the Trooper off Sat night for the Monday am service (cause I was going out of town) and got a call from the svc mgr about 10am on Monday saying it was all ready...they did a LOF & rotated the tires, but were unable to solve the REDUCED POWER & CE light issues b/c the lights didn't come on for them & there were no codes stored in the engine...lovely...guess I'll just count my lucky stars and be heads up for the next time...

Hope ya'll are havin' fun....as for me, I'm off to install some tank racks in the boat..*wave*

-Fred

conman2000 · July 2001

Glad to hear that the truck is OK. Sometimes I wonder about these lights. I had a car the ABS light would always come on and off but no codes were stored as well. Ending up being that the abs sensors were dirty and needed a blow out to clean them. Sometime the simple things fix problems.

Cheers,
Con

SteveSatch · July 2001

I'm thinking hard about replacing '98 Subaru Outback with a Trooper. Some questions:

Why is the maximum payload so low at 980 lbs? That's nothing for a truck.

When are '02 models coming out and what are the expected changes?

What current deals (rebates and financing) are there? Edmunds lists none but I know Isuzu discounts these trucks a great deal at certain times.

What are the best options for a roof rack? I have to have one. I can't believe Isuszu doesn't have one standard. Yes it's a tall vehivle, but so are other SUVs and they all have them.

Any deals in Southern Ca for an '01?

Which version do most people get? S, LS or limited?
Thanks!

paisan · July 2001

'02 will be 100% the same as '01 and '00.

No roof rack due to rollover risk false impressions set by Consumers reports. Outside the US they come with racks as an option. I will be importing the real Isuzu ones for around $225 from australia. Also a few people on http://isuzu-suvs.com have installed racks (see gallery) that look stock.

Payload is a suggestion. If you flip over to the owner's area I posted up a recent towing experience with my truck fully loaded down and 980 is BS as far as how much it can carry.

-mike

tntmyth · July 2001

Wow Paisan, I can't believe all that stuff is available in Japan! You can literally get the kitchen sink in your Trooper/Bighorn along with stove and kitchen table. Makes me want to get back into camping. Personally, I like some of that stuff. It is cool and even further enhances the appeal of the Trooper. It shows the rest of the picture of what the vehicle is all about. Where can we get access to those accessories? Do you know who or what company to get in touch with in Australia, etc. that is willing to ship to the U.S.?

I agree that the roof rack is very cool. I doubt that it would cause the truck to tip over.
At first when I got the truck, I was kind of careful going around corners. Now after the first 950 miles, I find myself wheeling around corners pretty handily. More confidence in the truck's ability. Not being careless, just that the truck can handle more than it seems in the first drive.

The 3rd row seat is cool. But I don't like the way the seats are mounted on the wall. The Honda Odyssey and Mitsu Montero have the best design for a 3rd row seat...Fold out of the floor.

BTW, what is the best way to clean the painted wheels on a 2001 Trooper S? I have been just using soap and water since I am worried about using some of those sprays even though some of them claim that they are for "painted and chrome wheels". But is is hard to get in the tight areas like around the lug nuts with soap and water. And of course, after I get over cleaning my brand new truck every few days, the wheels WILL get filthy. What do the rest of you Trooper owners do? Do you know from experience which brand of spray wheel cleaner is OK to use and won't peel or damage the "painted" surface of the wheel?
I'm concerned because my last car, a Mazda Millenia had chrome wheels that were peeling. I was told by a aftermarket wheel shop that this happened because the previous owner used sprays. Don't know if it is true or not.

paisan · July 2001

Use soap and water, clean the rims around the lug nuts when you rotate your tires. Also wax the rims. This will prevent dirt from building up and easily will wash away. I have a friend in Australia working on getting the items we want from Holden in Aus. So far roof rack, fender turn signals, rear bumper lights, Jackaroo Badges. I should have the price list this week or next. Also have a friend in the Navy stationed in Japan, so I'm looking at the feasability of importing the Japanese stuff.

Be sure to check out the meet the members area of the owners club here on Edmunds. I posted up about towing a 5000lb+ trailer this past weekend.

-mike

wildbuc · July 2001

Thanks everyone for the suggestions to prevent dents. Where can I buy boulder bars as one fellow suggested? I live in N.C. if shipping is to be a problem.

ryanendres · July 2001

The place to go for Boulder bars for Isuzu's is

http://independent4x.com/

Please keep in mind these should be welded on and the can support the weight of one side of the truck. If your not planning on going off road then nerf bars are what you want (the normal tube style)

paisan · July 2001

Can act as both side steps as well as protection. For the price it's worth getting the boulder bars from Matt @ http://independent4x.com

-mike

gpm5 · July 2001

I don't seem to get any, I guess because I park in wider spots normally and most small cars are lower. I do have the couple of imperfections in the doors that others have noted (no big deal).

SteveSatch · July 2001

Why the negative thoughts about the next Trooper? Am I missing something? Sounds like a winner to me; bigger in size, bigger engine, diesel available, still built in Japan. They probably will have a roof rack and decent rear shocks as well. Only downside is if the price jumps $10,000.

paisan · July 2001

Ruh?

Next Trooper =

New Name
Yukon Clone
GM built most likely

Unless of course you live outside North America, then you'll continue to get a Japan Built Trooper aka Bighorn, Jackaroo.

-mike

SteveSatch · July 2001

I guess I heard wrong. I thought it was to be made in Japan. If not, I don't want one, V8 or not. The lack of a V8 is the biggest downside to the Trooper.

pinoy99 · July 2001

Calmini also sells bars...

see http://www.pureisuzu.com/nurf_bars2.htm for more info

paisan · July 2001

Yep they do make bars, but won't customize them for you like Matt will. He'll make em extra wide if you want to use em for steps in addition to boulder bars, or use a different material (tube instead of flat steel) etc. Calmini just rubbed me the wrong way with their poor customer service on 2 occassions. For them it's all about the $ not actually making people happy with their products and aren't dedicated to Isuzus. Just my opinion though.

-mike

wildbuc · July 2001

I have been to several sites and so far no one lists nerf bars for a 99 Trooper (usually lists ones for 92-97)l. I am looking for something either stainless steel or steel which can be painted black. Hopefully the bars will extend wide enough to serve as a step and provide some protection from dings.

I understand perhaps Matt can provide something. Anyone know his e-mail address or phone number?

conman2000 · July 2001

http://www.independent4x.com

Matt can be reached at nytrooper@hotmail.com

I emailed Matt a few days ago and he will be making Boulder Bars/step for my 01 Trooper(just like Crunchy's) plus a rear matching hitch mounted bar/step.

Someone asked me what Boulder Bars are so I will try to explain(does not mean its right though)

Boulder Bars: Bars to protect the sides of the vehicle from rocks(Matt calls them "Rocker Bars") which mean they need to be strong. The trend now is that boulder bars are square and not round anymore(Nerf Bars) because of the better ground clearance.

There are a couple of side bar/step makers for the newer Troopers (Waag.com, overlander.com, and the M company I don't like) as I was thinking about these but after getting hit in the rear, I figure I want more than just a step for the sides and rear and more protection as well. Since the Boulder bars from Indy4x are about the same price, here I am. Matt can make both square and round bars too.

Good Luck,

Con

01 Trooper LS

flin · July 2001

Haven't been here in a while, but have a couple of questions maybe you guys can answer. I have about 1300 miles on my 2001 Trooper 2WD Limited. Going to take it in to have some stuff looked at next week:

 AC - cycles VERY loudly and sometimes as often as every 10-15 seconds. Accompanied by very loud hissing noise outside the truck

 AC - there is a noise that sounds like a 10-speed clicking that is proportional to the blower fan speed, although the noise doesn't seem to emanate from the vents. Sounds like it originates from under the glove box area.

 Engine - seems to be running rough. Idles rough at starts (shifter vibrates quite a bit) and at other times. Sometimes I get a low rasp undertone to the engine when accelerating, and sometimes I get a dieseling sound. was told by my service guy that this is a common complaint that Isuzu is trying to fix. Is that true?

 Transmission - sudden jerky downshift at stoplights - feels like someone is kicking my butt right as I come to a stop. They also tell me that this is "normal", though I didn't notice it before.

anyone have any ideas?

sdc2 · July 2001

The tranny thing is normal. The Trooper tranny is "tight" shifting, which actually is a good thing for transmission longevity. Trust us, you will get used to it, and it often diminishes over time anyway.

The ten-speed sound reminded me of the time I had a clicking/buzzing sound from my blower motor. Took the thing apart thinking I would have to replace it due to bad bearings...turned out to be a leaf caught in the fan, clicking like a card on the spokes of a bicycle wheel.

The other stuff does not sound normal to me, but I don't have the climate control system on my 99...

erinsquared · July 2001

If you look at earlier posts, you will see remarks about initial jerkiness of transmission 2-1 downshift. It took my '99 a couple of thousand miles before it went away completely (adaptive shift logic?). This is completely normal and will go away. I do not have automatic climate control on my Trooper so cannot address that. My engine has lifter tick sounds common to some overhead cam engines, but otherwise it is a real gem.

lovingpc · July 2001

A neighbor of mine who is a "car guy" (engineer at nearby Saturn plant) says the trooper transmission is solid. I commented that it "sounds like a truck" when accelerating (a little whiny, sound like it has a lot of torque). He said that it costs a lot to machine the gears within the transmission, and because most cars don't use low gears very often, they tend not to spend as much time getting them perfectly smooth - thus some noise at lower speeds. He said the tranny's are tough though, and will never break. I hope he's right!

Andy
00 Limited 2WD

conman2000 · July 2001

I have a 2001 Trooper and have the auto ac but I don't think I have those noises. But my last car had Auto AC as well so I might have got use to the sounds.

I have not noticed anything strange with the engine or tranny. The only thing that I noticed is that the "grade logic" system does work in the tranny as well I go down a big hill, the tranny does seem to "engine brake" like a stick shift would.

Cheers,
Con
01 Isuzu Trooper LS

toddswagner · July 2001

I thought it was odd too when I was going down hill that it wouldn't coast down the hill. I don't mind it now so much because I don't have to use the brakes to slow myself down as often. The only irritation thing with my 2001 S model is the sound coming from the heat shield, when it is cold. It vibrates and makes a funny noise until it warms up. I guess I could complain about worse things, but no real problems yet, oh, one of my windshield squirters doesn't work????

vivayo · July 2001

I have an '01 LS 2WD, bought in Dec '00 and with almost 3,000 miles. I haven't noticed any of the symptoms you describe. Except maybe the xmsn downshift. I have a Bonneville with a pretty tight xmsn (maybe the same one as the Trooper?) so maybe I'm just used to the hard downshifts. My 'other' truck (pickup) is a 5-spd manual and I don't downshift in it. Brake pads are cheaper than a ring job.
I do have a question. I ordered 6 oil filters, 6 crankcase drain washers, and a couple air filter elements from St. Charles. Great service and good prices. But I digress. I've used Slick 50/Duralube type additives in my other vehicles over the last 8 years. I noticed an increase of over 1 mpg in my pickup when I first added the slick 50 at the 5,000 mile mark. But I use conventional oil in those vehicles. If I go with Mobil 1 in the Trooper is the slick 50 recommended, not recommended, not necessary, potentially damaging? I'd like to do the oil changes about every 5,000 miles (filter and oil). BTW, when I checked the oil at about 2,600 miles, I was down about halfway between the "add" mark and the "full" mark. Anyone know how much it takes to move it from "add" to "full" ?
Thanks,
Charlie

conman2000 · July 2001

Yep, got the same thing too. One other person on outdoorwire.com has it too. I plan on taking it in to get looked at when I get the oil changed. I noticed when the engine is cold the exhaust tip vibrates more than warm which might cause the muffler to hit the heatshield? more when cold. Will let you know what the dealer says.

Cheers,
Con

conman2000 · July 2001

I plan on using M1 too at the 3k mark because of the benefits of it. I plan on keeping the Trooper so cheap insurance IMHO. If you use M1, I don't think you need to use anything else.

What I have been told, between the add and full marks is 1quart so you are only down 1/2 quart which is good. I am lucky cause I am only down 1/4 quart. I did not baby the truck but did not redline it either. I took it on two 500+ mile trips which might have helped the breakin. Reports on Land Rover Defenders is that the ones with "hard" miles on them are better than babied ones because the engine have less sludge in them because of the design. I wonder if the Isuzu engines are that way. I currently have 2,500 miles on it only after 6weeks of ownership and only have 1/4q of missing oil which seeem to support this theory. Anyone else have feedback?
So far, City only driving(NY), I only get 12MPG but the two Highway trips I did I got almost 18MPG so fair since I have a heavy foot.

Have a Great Weekend!

Con

oldpickup · July 2001

Does anyone know if it is possible to mount one of these?

Alternatively - has anyone successfully mounted one of the new child seat anchors for the middle-rear seat? These are the ones that require an anchor bolted to the floor in the cargo area - a strap attaches between the top of the back of the child's booster/car seat and the anchor in the floor.

I have a '99 Trooper.

Thanks.

conman2000 · July 2001

I don't think it will be easy plus too much cost to do this but I understand since other makes have 3point seatbelts for the center seat. As for the child top strap, the 2000 and 2001 come standard with two of these holders for the left and right seating spaces with plastic covers protecting them. For the center, in the owners manual, there is an option for a third center one but you have to cut a hole in the carpet to put it in. I will take a pic and post it as other people have asked. There is a TSB to retro fit older Isuzu with these hooks.

Cheers,
Con

sbcooke · July 2001

I dug around my truck figuring it out. There are 3 holes you can see from the underside of the truck. You need to take out the rubber mat, and just push the carpeting in where the holes are. Mine are pre-cut with a perforated edge. In order to use it and the cargo mat, you will need to cut at least a 3" hole in the mat. If you pull out the cargo mat, it should be pretty obvious.

bsmart1 · July 2001

All this talk about transmissions brings a couple recent developments to mind. I visited with my local transmission specialist last week about a fluid change. He schooled me a bit on the design and maintenance needs of the Trooper Transmission. First of all the later model Troopers transmission does NOT have a filter in it. It has a screen (he showed me one) that catches any debris and keeps it out of the gears. So, theres no filter to change, no need to take the pan off. When it comes to taking the pan off for some reason, look for it to be expensive. Most exhaust designs require the exhaust to be taken down to drop the transmission pan. He quoted me about $250 to do this. He admitted he hates working on the Trooper transmissions because of the wierd fill method and the exhaust issue. Then he suggested I take it to a quick lube place had have a transmission fluid exchange done. The other thing he informed me of is the durability and ruggedness of these transmissions. He is a Trooper owner with over 350,000 miles on a 87' model and ?? on a 97 model. He said the newer transmissions are just as rugged but must not be neglected. It is important to change the fluids at about 30,000 miles frequency since there is no filter. He knew of a transmission replacement on a friends Trooper which set him back about $4000. After he told me about the fluid exchange idea, thats exactly what I did. I took it to a quick lube and had the fluid replaced for $49.99! Its pretty cool, they hook you up to a machine filled with new fluid and the pump in your car cycles the old fluid out and the new fluid in! They remove one line from the transmission cooler and get in-line with their resevoir. You can watch the process as its done. My 97' Trooper has 55,000 miles on it and the fluid that came out looked pretty bad. Color was somewhere between tea and coffee brown. It was needing it for sure. Seems to be shifing much smoother now with less noticable "noise", (water rushing sound) at about 40 mph. I also had the fuel injectors cleaned at the same time with a 3 Step Gumout process, cost $39.99 and it seems to have helped the power and pickup a bit. I probably could have done this at home myself if I had shopped around for the kit. They are probably available at local parts stores. Oh well, live and learn. Happy Motoring!!

bsmart1 · July 2001

Summer is here and it's reaching into the mid 90's here in the mid-South. With the heat comes newly identified problems, especially with cooling systems. Anyone else had this problem? If I sit in traffic for 15 to 20 minutes my 97' Trooper starts heating up big time. The needle has not gotten to the H yet but its gotten too close for comfort. Luckily, I've been able to get the vehicle moving enough to get air across the radiator and bring the temperature down before it gets to H. This doesn't seem right to me. The fan should pull enough air across the radiator when parked to prevent this. Right?? This is my first summer with this Trooper, so I don't have a history to reflect on. Any help out there would be appreciated. The radiator is full of coolant and the radiator fins are clear of debris. The fan is turning but looks slow to me. And the thermostat appears to be working during normal driving.
Another question. Has anyone else experienced a rattling noise coming from under their Trooper, sounding like a loose clamp on a pipe or something? Happy Motoring (Troopering)

!!!

gpm5 · July 2001

I'd check/replace the thermostat and make sure the water pump/belt is working properly.

breakor · July 2001

No overheating in my 1999 Trooper even at 110+, although I wasn't stopped in traffic very long.

In addition to the above suggestions, how did the coolant look? A good flush and refill might be all that is needed. With a used car you just never know what the prior owner did. Maybe he did the change at 30k mis. maybe not. I know I have inspected used cars before where it looked like the coolant came straight out of a muddy wash.

Could also be the fan is the source of the problem. If you have a clutch activating the fan maybe it is slipping. I had that problem once many years ago on a Toyota .

It could also be that the prior owner removed the shroud around the radiator. That will greatly reduce the cooling effectiveness of the radiator during idling conditions.

paisan · July 2001

I'd say either the thermostat or the fan clutch is not working. Do the T-stat first, then check the fan. I had my 2K trooper in 100+ degree temps in NYC bumper to bumper traffic, never overheated once. Same goes for towing as well.

-mike

conman2000 · July 2001

The newer cargo mats from Isuzu have the holes cut in them already for the Trooper and Rodeo. Will take a pic tomorrow and have Paisan post it at his site.

Cheers,
Con

P.S. No over heating in my new Trooper but my 88 Isuzu Pickup did have a high reading on it's temp. but no over heating.

sbcooke · July 2001

I had an old Nissan Stanza that had an overheating problem. I had to crank the heat when stuck in traffic on hot summer days. $100 and a new thermostat fixed the problem right quick.

I hope it is that simple for you.

pinoy99 · July 2001

Try going thru a self service power wash and hose down the radiator fins thoroughly;if the truck went offroading in the mud and not washed down properly, then the fins could be clogged tho not easily visible which causes hot(er) running while idling(hot weather,stuck in traffic).
HTH

sdc2 · July 2001

Thanks for the info, I have been planning on doing the tranny fluid exchange as you described, but have been wavering between 30K and 50K for an interval...you just helped me make up my mind.

93trooper · July 2001

I have a 93 Trooper and just recently I noticed swinging in the oil pressure when i come to a stop. At normal engine speeds, it runs steady at 40-45, but drops to about 12-15 at a stop. I brought it into the Isuzu dealer and they showed me the write up that said that is normal for 93 troopers and Rodeo's. This is the first I've seen it happen since I bought the car in 1993. Has anyone else had this problem? Should I be more concerned then the dealer is?

Paul

paisan · July 2001

I have the same thing on my '88 Subaru. Unfortunately on my '00 Trooper there is no oil pressure guage so I can't verify how it acts.

-mike

offroader · July 2001

On my '99 w/TOD w/11,000 miles, I did the TOD transfer case and both differentials last weekend. The t-case uses 2 qts. of ATF. I used Mobil 1 synthetic even thopugh the cost is $6/qt. as opposed to $2/qt. for standard Dexron III ATF. The color of the old fluid was darker than new fluid, but this is normal.

I replaced the front & rear diff. gear oil also. I used Mobil 1 75W-90 synthetic (about $8/qt.). Although the service manual calls for 80W-90 for the temp. range that I drive, I believe the
Mobil 1 will do the job. The label on the bottle says it "exceeds" all SAE etc. tests, while other brands of regular mineral gear oil says it "meets or exceeds" for the same tests. Any thoughts?

You'll notice that the drain plugs on both diffs. have a magnet in them to attract small metal shavings - they work as planned and mine had some junk attracted to them. Make sure you clean these off thoroughly before re-installing the drain plug.

I did my transmission oil at about 8,000 miles. I used Valvoline ATF, not Mobil 1, but I plan to change it again at 20K+/- miles. I will use Mobil 1 at that time.

As you can see, I am very conservative when it comes to oil changes and maintenance. I tend to change it early and often, esp. the first "break-in" oil.

Clean gears are happy gears.

offroader

paisan · July 2001

That is a very agressive change schedule, good thing you didn't buy an MDX, they require the diffys (all 3 of them) be changed at 7500. Did you make sure to add LSD fluid to the rear?

-mike

offroader · July 2001

Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil supposedly is already equipped with limited slip additive - at least that's what the bottle says.

Here's some quotes:

"Eases gear shifting and prevents chattering in limited slip differentials".

"...race proven 100% synthetic product that outperforms all conventional extreme pressure type gear lubricants."

"Formulated to exceed the most severe performance requirements of all auto and truck rear axles."
and

"Exceeds performance requirements of API Service GL-5, Mack GO-G/S."

That ought to do it.

offroader

paisan · July 2001

Not sure, but I'd check it out with Mobil just to verify. Hate to see the LSD get messed up. I'm thinking of going to synthetics on my Truck. Have to find a good shop that will do the changes properly.

-mike

erinsquared · July 2001

I use synthetic fluids in my differentials and engine in addition to the best oil filter I can find. Just an extra measure of insurance for disaster and allows me to feel comfortable about increasing my oil change intervals to 5k miles. On another note, I notice that in most comparison's I have ever read about the Trooper, it is placed in the $30-45k priced vehicles and it usually does not fare well in the comparison (vs. Navigators, Tahoes, Mercedes, and Landcruisers). I think this is based on MSRP, but the reality is that most of us are getting these trucks in the $24-28k price range (after 6-7k in man. discounts). If Isuzu would drop the discounts and just mark the MSRP in the mid 20's, we would see more accurate comparisons against models that sell for the same price but offer much less. Imagine a comparison against the Explorer, Escape, Pathfinder, Xterra, etc.. I think Isuzu is missing the free publicity that it could get by winning these more appropriate comparisons.

paisan · July 2001

GM doesn't want the Trooper to cut into Trailblazer and Envoy sales. After 2002 it will be a Yukon/Tahoe clone so it won't matter much.

Although I agree with you on the poor marketing of the Trooper.

-mike

bsmart1 · July 2001

The story continues on the overheating in my 97' Trooper. I did the change out of the T-stat ($25part) and the problem still exists. I verified the new T-stat was set for 170F prior to installing it and it was. I checked the operation of the old one I took out, and it was set to the right temperature and was working fine. Side note, the T-stat is not easy to find, finally found one at O-Rileys auto parts. It does not come with a gasket, nor is a pre-cut gasket available. It was a trick cutting the gasket from stock material, especially when you don't have the right tools to do so. After further testing I've decided the problem is in the radiator fan clutch assembly. I mentioned before that it seemed to be turning too slow. I tested it at a cold start yesterday and found that it turns fast when cold for a few minutes then slows down. It never speeds up again after the engine has heated up to normal temperature. There's a temperature coil built in that is supposed to adjust the clutch if it gets hot and cause the fan to re-engage. That's not happening now and I've got a clutch assembly on order. Cost new $147 from St. Charles. These Troopers aren't cheap to work on for sure. When I get it installed, I'll let you know the results. By the way, the shroud is in place and the radiator fins are clear (can see light through them). Outdoor temps here yesterday reached 100F. Had to turn the heat on yesterday afternoon to keep the Trooper engine from overheating...air out the ducts registered 175F. This is one hot truck. Not so Happy Trooping!! :-)
bsmart

raydahs · July 2001

You are correct in your analogy of the testing. Here are some quotes from the 99 SUV Edmunds comparison tests:

"To be eligible for our test, the SUV in question had to have four-wheel drive and a cargo area of at least 90 cubic feet. We used cargo capacity as our defining standard, because it seemed that in order to fulfill the "utility" side of the full-size moniker, the trucks should be capable of hauling more than a garden-variety Ford Explorer or Chevrolet Blazer. As strange as it may seem, a relatively small vehicle like the Isuzu Trooper made it into the test"

"The truth is that the Trooper would probably dominate a comparison of midsized sport-utes like the Explorer, Blazer, Montero Sport, and Nissan Pathfinder, and, in reality, that is the market against which the Trooper is most often shopped. Nevertheless, the Trooper fit our criteria, so we pitted it against the big boys."

"Normal-sized families looking for a medium-to-large vehicle for family trips or running around town will not be disappointed with this Isuzu. In fact, its deficiencies in the test, namely its smaller size and less-powerful engine, could spell real-life gains -- especially when it comes to driving on crowded streets and paying for gas. Our Trooper's price tag is one additional feature that could move it up the list for some families. Our Trooper's sticker was $10,000 lower than anything else in the test, and $10,000 could pay for a lot of nice salmon steaks on those camping trips."

breakor · July 2001

I forgot to mention that my cure for the bad fan clutch in the Toyota (not the temperature sensing unit which was located at the radiator by the way) was a few good shots of WD-40 on a cold, non-running vehicle.

Granted this is unlikely to work for you but for $.10 in material it might be worth trying.

cdanschwartz · July 2001

Hi,

I've been lurking here for a few days, reading the postings, and I have to say that you all are a loyal group. Nothing like what you would read from the Explorer or Grand Cherokee owners.

I live in Long Island and I want to buy a 2001 LS with a sunroof. Does anyone know what I should pay at this point. Also, the only LS I can find is with the Anniversary package. That package seems overpriced.

How can I locate the car I want and how can I find out what to pay?

Thanks,

Charlie

Isuzu Trooper

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